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Montuno

...como el Son...
Okay perhaps you are right and Stalin would have turned on Hitler first if Hitler was sufficiently weakened before he started going after the USSR.

I did not say that Stalin would have attacked Hitler first.
What I do say, and without any "perhaps" because it is a historical fact, is that Stalin already confronted Hitler and Mussolini before WW II, during the Spanish War.

And that both Hitler and Stalin knew the inconsistency of any pact between them: in fact Hitler had crushed and annulled the German socialists and communists, who had been serious rivals in his assault on power.
 

Microbeman

The Logical Gardener
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You make it sound like he flew down to Cancun or something, he's just an hour or so away by car over in Delaware and even less time by Marine 1 and as such he's been involved daily steadily increasing sanctions, sending financial aid and weapons. Putin has seriously miscalculated and when he loses this war the sanctions won't be lifted as long as he's in power. Effectively all he has accomplished is the complete collapse of his economy and the set back of his military and space program by several decades. With the way things are going for him now the only smart move when he loses will be to resign office and fade into history as the leader that brought Russia back to the days of people standing in long lines for hours just to get a loaf of bread.

Yes, it seems as if perhaps, rather than the bear being poked, Putin has shoved his face into the bees nest.

The peoples of the world are Putin him in his place (?)
 

Microbeman

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Trump is indeed an egotistical showman. He knows very well how to wring as much publicity as he can to promote himself. And it doesn't have to be 'good' coverage. As long as you are talking about him Trump has hit his mark. The guy is a genius and his security and investigation operations rival what most countries can do.

But you will note that other than an odd tweet or two he is not involved in what is going on now. Trump has left protocols in place related to his and previous emergency declarations that Bidan cannot change. The only way they can be gotten around is for Bidan to declare the emergencies over.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United_States

I would describe it more as boorish, juvenile, needy.
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
So, now we are sending our natural gas to Germany... because "fuck America!," right? Our energy costs weren't high enough for Biden and the Deep State.

You don't understand me... The USA is interested in this: the gas that it used to EQUALLY sell in other markets further away (Asia), can now be sold closer (Europe) and at a higher price.
Up to 40 percent extra profit, selling gas to Europe.

The gas issue is key here: there was not only the big difference in positions between Germany and Spain. There are also different interests in being an alternative to Russian gas: Spain have a project with Africa that could make it independent from Russia and the USA in gas supply: this also probably explains why Biden, in spite of thanking the risky and continuous interceptions of Russian fighter-bombers on the eastern European border of the NATO with Russia by the Spanish Air Force, did not want to meet privately with the Spanish President.
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https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medgaz


US big business: selling gas to Europe 40% more expensive than Russia :

The United States is preparing to make a big deal out of natural gas exports. The country is accelerating the commissioning of some of its main regasification infrastructures to increase its sales volume.

According to Gasindustrial data, the price of LNG arriving from the United States to Spain is 40% more expensive than that received from Russia. Specifically, U.S. gas cost on average 53.88 euros/MWh while that from Russia cost 38.42 euros/MWh.

There are currently seven major export facilities in the United States. Cheniere Energy's Sabine Pass in Louisiana; Cove Point Liquefaction in Maryland, now operated by Berkshire Hathaway; Cheniere's Corpus Christi Liquefaction in Texas; Sempra Energy's Cameron LNG in Louisiana; Kinder Morgan's Elba Liquefaction in Georgia; Freeport LNG in Texas; and Venture Global's Calcasieu Pass.

Cheniere Partners, owner of the Sabine Pass LNG terminal, has commissioned its sixth liquefaction train. At the same time, Venture Global's Calcasieu Pass plant has also started LNG supply and last December, the company and Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards announced that another $10 billion will be invested to develop a new CP2 LNG facility.

In Spain, a total of 27 LNG ships are scheduled to arrive this February, of which 23 have already unloaded. The remaining 4 are scheduled to do so during the remainder of the month.

For March, Enagas has scheduled 29 unloading slots, but as a preventive measure, it has been decided to launch today the auction of another 4 extraordinary slots, which will be destined to both domestic demand and export. This auction will take place next Monday.

Shipments from Spain :
Spain has been sending gas to the center of Europe for 6 days to try to cope with a possible supply cut by Russia, as elEconomista.es reported today.

The Spanish gas system receives gas from Algeria through the Medgaz pipeline, which is operating normally and whose capacity has been increased thanks to the extension of the pipeline since January 2.

At present, the system has higher contracted capacity levels than in previous winters on the same date, and is in a better situation than other countries in the region after the Government tightened the so-called winter plan.

With the current situation and with the slot and capacity reservations already made by marketers, Enagas considers that there are no objective indications of a lack of gas supply in the coming months. However, the technical manager of the system is continuously monitoring gas supplies and reserves to identify any extraordinary unloading slots that could be made available to the market.

Vital tool :
Supply from the United States thus becomes a vital tool in the face of European dependence on Russian gas. In fact, the Polish company PGNiG has purchased a cargo of U.S. LNG to be supplied at the Ukrainian border to ERU Europe. This will be the second time that U.S. gas will be supplied to Ukraine thanks to the cooperation of the two companies.

The ship with the U.S. LNG will arrive at the President Lech Kaczynski LNG Terminal in Swinoujscie at the end of February, predictably, with a Spanish ship. After regasification, the fuel will be fed into the Polish transport system. ERU Europe will receive the fuel at the interconnection between Poland and Ukraine until the end of March.

Ukraine, for its part, is allowing gas to continue to transit from Russia to the heart of Europe in a move that seems pointless, as it allows it to finance its enemy. In fact, Gazprom's gas nominations for tomorrow have increased.


https://www.eleconomista.es/energia/...que-Rusia.html
 

h.h.

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I believe we're taking a bit of a gamble with the sanctions, especially kicking the Russian banks out of SWIFT. China has the CIPS program in place that does the same thing, though on a smaller scale (for now). Russia also has it's own version, but mostly for the domestic banks.

I’d love to see China support Russia financially. Two birds. One stone.
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
Ukraine's gas paradox: choke Russia's accounts or Europe's supply :

Ukraine is facing a great paradox with its gas supply. While Russia is attacking them, the country is keeping the spigot open to finance the invasion so as not to harm its allies. The Ukrainian crossroads is of such a caliber that it reaches the surprising situation that more Russian gas will be transported to Europe through this country despite the fact that both are already immersed in a war.

Following Russia's annexation of the Crimean peninsula in 2014, Ukraine halted direct gas imports from Russia and replaced them with supplies from other European countries. However, much of the imported quantities likewise originate in Russia and reach Ukraine through reverse flows.

With 72 compressor stations, Ukraine's gas transportation network includes nearly 28,000 miles of pipelines and 13 subway storage facilities with a total working capacity of 1.1 Tcf, making the country the second largest by storage capacity in Europe and Eurasia, behind Russia.

Ukraine has the largest gas transit infrastructure in the world, allowing European markets to receive between 2.9 and 3.3 Tcf of Russian natural gas per year, which is about 35% of consumption.

Austria, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia and Slovakia receive Russian gas via Ukraine. In the past, disputes between the two countries have already led to disruptions in gas exports.

Two major pipeline systems transport Russian hydrocarbon through Ukraine to Western Europe. The Bratstvo pipeline, which originates in the Urengoy field, crosses from Ukraine to Slovakia and splits in two directions to supply northern and southern European countries. The Soyuz pipeline, which originates at the Orenburg well, links Russian pipelines with Central Asian networks and supplies additional volumes to central and northern European countries such as Slovakia, Hungary and Romania. A third major pipeline connects Russian gas to the Balkan countries and Turkey.

Russia, for its part, has promoted the TurkStream and Nord Stream pipelines with the aim of avoiding transit through Ukraine in order to reduce its key role as a supplier, but the sanctions imposed by the Commission include halting the authorization of Nord Stream 2.

Energy Commissioner Kadri Simson and the Director General of the International Energy Agency, Fatih Birol, have met to discuss possible responses to a possible supply crisis in Europe.

Along the same lines, the White House has been in contact with some of its main allies to coordinate - if necessary - the possible release of oil reserves.


​​​​​​https://www.eleconomista.es/energia/...de-Europa.html
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
Diplomacy tries to get out of the dock after failure with Russia
Isolation is imposed as a strategy while the clear involvement of China is sought in order to force a dialogue outcome :

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The iconic tapestry of Picasso's Guernica on display at UN headquarters, one of the most powerful artistic references against war, was chosen as the backdrop by the Security Council members who have pushed through the (for the moment) penultimate pact against the invasion of Ukraine, which has yet to be addressed by the 193 members in the General Assembly. Russia exercised its right to veto. It was demanded to "immediately cease its use of force against Ukraine" and to "immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw all its military forces from the territory of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders". In addition to reversing the recognition of the two separatist regions of Donetsk and Lugansk.

Russia, one of the five great powers with the power to block any resolution (the others being the United States, China, France and Great Britain) was left alone. Not because there were full 'yeses' but because of China's abstention (together with India and the United Arab Emirates). A gesture, that of Beijing, which reinforces the thesis of its ambiguity. But the EU has read it in practical terms. It would push, in its opinion, the strategy of isolation.

Perhaps also because, according to the Chinese agency Xinhua, Foreign Minister Wang Yi spoke by telephone with several European institutional representatives, including Josep Borrell, to emphasize that he "looks favorably on direct negotiations and meetings between Russia and Ukraine as soon as possible" and that he advocated a "common, comprehensive, cooperative and sustainable" security formula.

China holds one of the keys to revive diplomacy at the highest level. But it has not yet made use of it. The other diplomacy, the preventive one, blew up on day 1 of the invasion. And, make no mistake. And although the UN Secretary General, António Guterres, last night cried out that "we must never give up", the task now is to prevent Vladimir Putin from overdoing it as much as possible. This is another 'preventive' variable. But this one is more disturbing. With a war in progress.

For the time being, calls for dialogue continue to fail. Or Putin himself twists them to the extreme. As he did this Saturday when he ordered total war to his troops under the argument that Kiev had rejected the possibility of sitting down to negotiate. Something that Volodymir Zelenski and his cabinet have been systematically denying. "Ukraine has been and remains ready to talk about a ceasefire and peace," Sergii Nykyforov, spokesman for the Ukrainian president, remarked in recent hours. Viktor Orban has even offered Budapest "as a safe place" for such negotiations.

Devilish inertia.And with bad omens. "The war will last, this crisis will last"; "we have to prepare ourselves with a lot of determination and a lot of solidarity", warns already Emmanuel Macron. Meanwhile, Zelenski, who keeps his "24/7 diplomatic front" open, asked again for the accession of his country to the EU.

And he received in exchange commitments of humanitarian aid and war ammunition. Like the 200 anti-aircraft missiles that will arrive from the Netherlands or the 400 bazookas that Germany will send. Or at least that is what Olaf Scholz said on Saturday after discussing the crisis in Berlin with Poland's Mateusz Morawiecki and Lithuania's Gitanas Nauseda. On EU membership, Charles Michel's response was "more concrete support from the EU is on the way"...
Useful or elusive?


https://www.elcomercio.es/internacional/diplomacia-intenta-salir-20220226200132-ntrc.html
 

chilliwilli

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The kgb warmonger anounced that because everyone is so unfriendly to russa he has to put the atomic forces on alert.
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
The kgb warmonger anounced that because everyone is so unfriendly to russa he has to put the atomic forces on alert.

According to the latest media reports in Spain: Putin puts his nuclear deterrent forces on high alert.
Also the Spanish government admits that among its 20 tons of "humanitarian aid" already on its way to Ukraine, there is "material for protection against biological and nuclear attack".
 

audiohi

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I believe we're taking a bit of a gamble with the sanctions, especially kicking the Russian banks out of SWIFT. China has the CIPS program in place that does the same thing, though on a smaller scale (for now). Russia also has it's own version, but mostly for the domestic banks.

Republicans certainly prefer their political donations come through the SWIFT system.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
With every Sanction, the US makes Russia stronger.

They withhold semiconductors from a country the size of Russia ?

So now Russia has a Huge incentive to fast-track a program to manufacture their OWN silicon, starting with using a nuclear reactor to do N & P doping of Silicon Ingots (same way the US does it.)

Meanwhile, Russia is the largest supplier of critical materials like Palladium & Neon. They can simply stop selling to the US, and sell to China - thereby giving China's semiconductor manufacturers an advantage over the US !

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia...ould-dent-chip-maker-supply-lines-11645837830


What the US is doing is akin to imposing "sanctions" on HP competitor Wiltron in the early 1980's, and preventing them from using machine shops as vendors.

What did Wiltron do ? They built their own HUGE machine shop and brought all that manufacturing in-house - making them an even more formidable competitor for Hewlett Packard.


Meanwhile, Russia is gearing up to establish Super-size metal casting facilities - which the US lacks.

What happens when the US needs a Pressure Dome for a new nuclear reactor ?

Where will the US get all the electricity for all those electric cars ?
 
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