Researchers Find Unknown Chemical in Drinking Water

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Toxicity Still Unknown

The newly identified compound, chloronitramide anion (chemically expressed as Cl–N–NO2−), is an end product of inorganic chloramine decomposition. While its toxicity remains unknown, researchers are concerned about its prevalence and similarity to other toxic compounds, necessitating further study to assess its public health risk, the researchers wrote.

Chloramines, chemical compounds containing chlorine and ammonia used to kill bacteria, viruses, and other organisms that can cause illness, have been used by water utilities since the 1930s. Over 20 percent of Americans consume drinking water treated with chloramines, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

I guess cannabis was trying to warn us all along

Chloramines are bad news

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[Creeperpark]

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I guess cannabis was trying to warn us all along

Chloramines are bad news

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Thats why I drink RO water.

 

[H e d g e]

There’s a village near here that hasn’t had drinking water for years, the water company trucks in bottled water for them. Some sort of chloramine resistant bacteria leaching from a farm they can’t get out of the system.
There must be a better way, @Creeperpark are you re mineralising it before drinking? I might get one. Even a Jug filter makes a big difference to the taste, I can smell the chlorine at arms length out of the tap.

 

[led05]

There’s a village near here that hasn’t had drinking water for years, the water company trucks in bottled water for them. Some sort of chloramine resistant bacteria leaching from a farm they can’t get out of the system.
There must be a better way, @Creeperpark are you re mineralising it before drinking? I might get one. Even a Jug filter makes a big difference to the taste, I can smell the chlorine at arms length out of the tap.

Filter then remineralize, RO on its own will leach our bodies, we need our salts just within reason

 

[Brother Nature]

Just add cal-mag, you'll be fine...

 

[H e d g e]

@Brother Nature @led05 Just normal biobizz cal mag? For human/dog drinking or just for the plants?
No one seems to be selling specific human grade minerals for ro. Epsom salts be any good?

 

[AmericanFarmer]

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I guess cannabis was trying to warn us all along

Chloramines are bad news

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RFK is going to fix all this crap. Fingers crossed

 

[led05]

@Brother Nature @led05 Just normal biobizz cal mag? For human/dog drinking or just for the plants?
No one seems to be selling specific human grade minerals for ro. Epsom salts be any good?

Definitely not Cal Mag he was joking, I hope

For drinking water you actually use Calcium Chloride, Potassium Bicarbonate, Magnesium Chloride & then I also add sea salts

Many forms of Calcium & Magnesium will cloud up & precipitate out;

PS - Cal:Mag is a horrible product for plants and even worse for humans - ha, the ratios are nearly always wrong

Peace

 

[led05]

RFK is going to fix all this crap. Fingers crossed

Better X your toes too; David v Goliath but I do hope you’re correct at least a tiny bit

 

[H e d g e]

Definitely not Cal Mag he was joking, I hope

For water you actually use Calcium Chloride, Potassium Bicarbonate, Magnesium Chloride & then I also add sea salts

Many forms of Calcium & Magnesium will cloud up & precipitate out;

PS - Cal:Mag is a horrible product for plants and even worse for humans - ha, the ratios are nearly always wrong

Peace

Thank you I’ve been looking for this info and couldn’t find it elsewhere.
I actually destroyed my last grow with cal mag trying to fix what turned out to be critters eating the roots, had to start again with new soil.
Sorry for all the questions but what ratios are you using with the ‘Calcium Chloride, Potassium Bicarbonate, Magnesium Chloride & sea salts’? Do you measure the ec?

 

[led05]

Thank you I’ve been looking for this info and couldn’t find it elsewhere.
I actually destroyed my last grow with cal mag trying to fix what turned out to be critters eating the roots, had to start again with new soil.
Sorry for all the questions but what ratios are you using with the ‘Calcium Chloride, Potassium Bicarbonate, Magnesium Chloride & sea salts’? Do you measure the ec?

Per 5 gallon jug
3-4 tsp Mag Chl
1-2 tsp Cal Chl
1-2 tsp K Bicarbonate
1-2 tsp Sea Salt - I use Sea 90

Don’t mix the salts together until just before adding water or else they’ll clump together & be more difficult to dissolve, you’re gonna taste some Magnesium in the above blend so can reduce if you’d like or tailor to your tastes…

Pure RO in your jugs or water cooler dispenser will also grow mold, fungal chains etc, the tiny bit of salts prevents it almost entirely or at least it does here

If you look at many of the waters sold that aren’t coming directly from a natural spring (sadly most) you can read the exact ingredients above sans the Sea 90 product

We also use one of these which is a great table top product as I didn’t want to Jam a bunch of filters under the sink, the dispensing jug has a clever remineralizer at the top the filtered water passes through too & the water tastes great from this thing; the water I make in 5 gallon jugs is mostly used for coffee & tea, having the right water is important, especially for coffee snobs whom roast their own

 

[H e d g e]

@led05 Thank you

 

[Brother Nature]

Definitely not Cal Mag he was joking, I hope

For drinking water you actually use Calcium Chloride, Potassium Bicarbonate, Magnesium Chloride & then I also add sea salts

Many forms of Calcium & Magnesium will cloud up & precipitate out;

PS - Cal:Mag is a horrible product for plants and even worse for humans - ha, the ratios are nearly always wrong

Peace

Yes, it was just a joke, seems to be a trend on forums to to suggest cal mag as a 'cure all' for a litany of plant troubles, was just playing on that...

Please don't put cal-mag in your drinking water I have found Epsom salts to be great for a recovery soak in a very hot tub though, soothes the sore muscles quite well in my experience.

 

[Orange's Greenhouse]

There’s a village near here that hasn’t had drinking water for years, the water company trucks in bottled water for them. Some sort of chloramine resistant bacteria leaching from a farm they can’t get out of the system.
There must be a better way, @Creeperpark are you re mineralising it before drinking? I might get one. Even a Jug filter makes a big difference to the taste, I can smell the chlorine at arms length out of the tap.

You don't need RO to remove chloramines. A carbon filter is fine. Just make sure to get one rated for drinking water and mentioning chloramines. Not all do that, as opposed to chlorine which all remove.

A brita filter is probably fine too and much more handy.

 

[H e d g e]

@Brother Nature haha yup, I found out cal mag isn’t a cure all the hard way, it really f’s up the soil.
@Orange's Greenhouse thats what I’ve been using, a britta. Not been re mineralising the water though. The cartridges need replacement quite often, lots of plastic and not cheap. If I had the money I’d just get land on high ground with a natural spring.

 

[TrifektaSeeds]

Buy a water distiller from Amazon, 150$ maybe less, your done for life.
Carbon filters don't filter your water enough
RO systems are prone to failure and require expensive filter changes and also don't bring your water to 0.0, more like 0.020-50 unless you start with a really pure water source.

I only drink distilled water, cook with them, no matter what or where I am, only glass, no plastic containers never.
No one time cups, only glass.
You don't need to add minerals back, humans don't digest stones and rocks which is the form most of them are sold
Humans digest salts, like plants yes
So you can add some salt to your water or
eat enough salt during the day.
Human cells are 50/50 salts/H2O
Balance is important
If you drink RO or distilled, make sure you get enough salt.
Make sure your diet is not based on the Macdonald's menu and your good.

 

[Orange's Greenhouse]

You don't need to add minerals back

make sure you get enough salt

Yea right. Also distilled water has some carryover so you don't get it to '0'.

 

[TrifektaSeeds]

No, distilled water has no carry over, hence the name distilled water.
Distilled water are 0.0 water.
RO do have a carry over, that why it's always 0.020-50

 

[Orange's Greenhouse]

No, distilled water has no carry over, hence the name distilled water.
Distilled water are 0.0 water.
RO do have a carry over, that why it's always 0.020-50

I only have a degree in chemistry but you got conviction. That is much more important than dusty books.

 

[H e d g e]

If there’s not much in it between distilled and ro why are so many growers using ro? Not seen any using distilled.
The distilled seems cheaper and less plastic, is it the electric running cost or capacity that puts people off?