War

[Three Berries]

We've already established you're an idiot and you more or less advised against listening to idiots so....

Ha an here you are. the very fact Q is not dismissed and not discussed is it is a threat to the corrupt status quo. MSM doesn't talk about something they don't want to project unless forced to , such as the hunter laptop from hell.

 

[Brother Nature]

Maybe I'm feeling extra cynical this morning, but this thread makes me wish Covid was a much more deadly disease...

 

[ButterflyEffect]

I’ve never insulted anyone here. And I appreciate others points of view, that’s why I like to debate.

Lol. The hell you do. You mock others for their point of view and push your garbage as if it's fact. Nothing you do qualifies as debate in any sense of the word. What you are is a brainwashed rube who thinks he's figured something out that no one else can see, like your own little special club.

 

[ButterflyEffect]

Who is Q?

Lol. Now you try and play dumb. It'd be a nice shtick if it weren't so predictable and played out.

 

[h.h.]

Ha an here you are. the very fact Q is not dismissed and not discussed is it is a threat to the corrupt status quo. MSM doesn't talk about something they don't want to project unless forced to , such as the hunter laptop from hell.

So you make it up.

 

[ButterflyEffect]

Yeah, I noticed a pattern where lefties don't respond to things they can't answer to without undermining their own Bullshit. I don't get ignored when they respond to other comments I make (such as my assertion that Russia is acting in legitimate self defense against the fascist Neo Nazis (just trying to find out if they are the left wing kind or the right wing kind of fascist nazis...

Looking for clarification from those who claim that fascism is limited to the so-called "right (wing)."

Aah the old everyone who doesn't support your stupid lies and bullshit is a 'leftie'.

That's about as moronic as russia is defending itself against nazis.

 

[ButterflyEffect]

Hempy's fighting to be noticed these days.

lol

Children and the mentally challenged tend to do that with alarming regularity. I will say that it's fun as hell knocking them back down. It's a fine sport, indeed!

 

[Montuno]

Weren't the leftists calling Trump supporters Nazis for a few years now? I guess, you don't like the 'Golden Rule.'

At least it's an accurate statement when we make it against you and your ilk.

Trump is an ultra-right-wing populist demagogue capitalist autocrat, racist, misogynist and homophobe; but, in my humble opinion as a Marxist sympathizer of the POUM
(Marxist Unification Workers Party) & PCE (Spanish Communist Party), he is not a Nazi, not even a fascist (although his previous attributes intersect with fascism). It is more Putin, Bolsonaro, Orban or Erdogan wave, than not Mussolini, Hitler and Franco.

As for his voters, it should be clear that I do not know the gringo society as well as the gringos themselves, but I would say that we should not mix (as you do with other issues) that the majority of the gringo neo-Nazi vote has gone to Trump, with the majority of Trump voters being neo-Nazis. On the contrary, I think they are a minority, and a small one; in fact, I think I see many honest working people among his voters (as among people also voted for Hitler or Putin, I guess...).
In fact, as the funny rap about Trump that I linked above (parodying the music of the TV series "The Fresh Prince" by W. Smith) said, his success is due to :

"Listen to the story of how I became the king," starts Trump's rap, in which he explains the story of how he became president "with the craziest strategy in the history of the West: to make Texas blue-collar workers and Kansas farmers identify with a Manhattan millionaire." "I got it because I turned politics into a reality show," he explains in the rap, in which he also details his master anti-immigration plan: "I had a great idea, to leave America so bad that nobody wants to come in anymore.":

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cjQeRIgUIIU
.

 

[ButterflyEffect]

Weren't the leftists calling Trump supporters Nazis for a few years now? I guess, you don't like the 'Golden Rule.'

At least it's an accurate statement when we make it against you and your ilk.

Considering that fascism and nazism only exists in right-leaning environments. but then again, you're a fascist and a nazi, so there's that.

 

[ButterflyEffect]

So, Obama and his leftist supporters are right wing fascists and putin is the global leader of Antifa?

Starting to see the LOGICAL FALLACY in the assertion that fascism is, specifically, a "right-wing" phenomenon??

Starting to see the LOGICAL FALLACY in believing that just because Antifa refers to themselves as anti-fascist does not mean that they are, in actuality, anti-fascist?

I'll continue to graciously wait for a logical response...

If your retarded word salad could be reasonably parsed maybe someone could attempt to give you an answer. Also, you don't have the slightest clue what a logical fallacy is except to casually toss it back when someone tells you that you're doing it, kind of like you're doing right now, son.

 

[ButterflyEffect]

Trump is an ultra-right-wing populist demagogue capitalist autocrat, racist, misogynist and homophobe; but, in my humble opinion as a Marxist sympathizer of the Spanish Communist Party, he is not a Nazi, not even a fascist (although his previous attributes intersect with fascism). It is more Putin, Bolsonaro, Orban or Erdogan wave, than not Mussolini, Hitler and Franco.

As for his voters, it should be clear that I do not know the gringo society as well as the gringos themselves, but I would say that we should not mix (as you do with other issues) that the majority of the gringo neo-Nazi vote has gone to Trump, with the majority of Trump voters being neo-Nazis. On the contrary, I think they are a minority, and a small one; in fact, I think I see many honest working people among his voters (as among people also voted for Hitler or Putin, I guess...).
In fact, as the funny rap about Trump that I linked above (parodying the music of the TV series "The Fresh Prince" by W. Smith) said, his success is due to :

"Listen to the story of how I became the king," starts Trump's rap, in which he explains the story of how he became president "with the craziest strategy in the history of the West: to make Texas blue-collar workers and Kansas farmers identify with a Manhattan millionaire." "I got it because I turned politics into a reality show," he explains in the rap, in which he also details his master anti-immigration plan: "I had a great idea, to leave America so bad that nobody wants to come in anymore.":

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cjQeRIgUIIU
.

Trump is an opportunist. Fascist? not really, at least not yet. He exhibits signs that perhaps he'll go that way and many of his followers certainly parrot fascist talking points. Personally, I doubt actual fascism could ever take root in the US. Capitalism and the free market would prevent that. There's a lot of wealth here and a lot more to be made, even by regular everyday folks, and that doesn't square with fascism at all.

 

[Montuno]

Capitalism is by definition neither fascist nor anti-fascist: it can be both perfectly well. As democratic or dictatorial (as well as socialism and communism).
You can see how well German capitalism and Swiss banking (that banking if good and angelic; not like the dirty Jewish one) did with Hitler, or how extremely capitalist the South American fascist dictatorships were, or even the Spanish Francoist one.

 

[h.h.]

Forcible suppression of opposition.

In his 2004 book The Anatomy of Fascism, Paxton refines his five-stage model and puts forward the following definition for fascism:

Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democraticliberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.[SUP][12][/SUP]​

In 2021, Paxton wrote an op-ed for Newsweek in which he stated that he now believed Donald Trump was a fascist, after insisting for several years that he was instead a right-wing populist. Trump's incitement of the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol was the deciding factor in him changing his view.[SUP][13][/SUP]

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Aah the old everyone who doesn't support your stupid lies and bullshit is a 'leftie'.

That's about as moronic as russia is defending itself against nazis.

Well, that is not what I said at all. Looks like you missed the point again.

 

[armedoldhippy]

Trump is an opportunist. Fascist? not really, at least not yet. He exhibits signs that perhaps he'll go that way and many of his followers certainly parrot fascist talking points. Personally, I doubt actual fascism could ever take root in the US. Capitalism and the free market would prevent that. There's a lot of wealth here and a lot more to be made, even by regular everyday folks, and that doesn't square with fascism at all.

The Chump is whatever will keep his name in the news, his bald ass out of prison, and other peoples money going into his wallet. and his acolytes will throw their money at him & follow him right off of the cliff....and i won't miss any of them when they splatter on the rocks at the base of the cliff. i figure the average IQ in this country would go up by about 15 points or so the day it happens...

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Considering that fascism and nazism only exists in right-leaning environments. but then again, you're a fascist and a nazi, so there's that.

Right-leaning like the Obama and Biden admins? So Ukraine is right-wing then. So, why do you support Ukraine? I thought you said you don't like nazis??

 

[Three Berries]

Lol. Now you try and play dumb. It'd be a nice shtick if it weren't so predictable and played out.

No I'm asking you. Who is Q Couple flunkys with servers?

 

[Montuno]

Welcome to the humble camps of the Sahrawi refugees and displaced persons in the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic by Moroccan invasion, where there is also room for joy, for músic and for love... amidst despair:

(with beatiful hispanic-saharahui músic...and even dancehall...)



Pd : The last minutes, are from Argel.

https://youtu.be/bTH66OfiLB4

How funny the Saharawi teen guy in the middle of the video; he says to the cameraman in Spanish something like: "I came from a (Muslim) wedding and now I'm going to a (Christian) baptism, too...; that's what you get when you live in the dust of the desert: here people get more dust than anywhere else".
​​
In slang, in Spanish, "polvo / dust" can be either that of the desert, or refer to the sexual act...

 

[Montuno]

Trump is an opportunist. Fascist? not really, at least not yet. He exhibits signs that perhaps he'll go that way and many of his followers certainly parrot fascist talking points. Personally, I doubt actual fascism could ever take root in the US. Capitalism and the free market would prevent that. There's a lot of wealth here and a lot more to be made, even by regular everyday folks, and that doesn't square with fascism at all.

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Capitalism is by definition neither fascist nor anti-fascist: it can be both perfectly well. As democratic or dictatorial (as well as socialism and communism).
You can see how well German capitalism and Swiss banking (that banking if good and angelic; not like the dirty Jewish one) did with Hitler, or how extremely capitalist the South American fascist dictatorships were, or even the Spanish Francoist one.

And also remember, friend, that in (your?) capitalist USA there has been apartheit (in the time of my grandparents, for black Americans, Western Europe, including my country, was paradise), and even harsher in capitalist South Africa. ...

 

[Budz Lightyear]

https://youtu.be/RWIN2W1aVTM

So. Russia has destroyed 80% of Mariupol. The army are moving in. The Ukranian residents are fleeing. The Russians will soon have control of that area.
How is this better than it was before Nato started stiring the pot? Am I missing something?