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As are the rites of women, minorities, free elections, etc. I'm not supporting sharia law over democracy, whatever the flaws. You're basically asking me to side with Hamas, which would be akin to asking me to side with an organisation like ISIS.
I loath fascism and hard line religion equally so no, I'm not choosing sides.
Hi Genghis. No worries and fair enough. I have actually read the book you pulled that from in its entirety, hence the edit prior to your reply. Personally, I feel your summation of Palestinian nationalism and politics is a little narrow, but of course we don’t have to agree. I try and read as widely as I can on these topics to better inform my opinion, and if you have any book recommendations I am open to them.
Take care
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More of the State Dept's incessant repetition of lies and propaganda. They're at least good at -that-. A person ought to be good at something, I guess.
Do we have to play videos from October 7?
Not that there's anything wrong with violence against Israel....
Not that there's anything wrong with violence against Israel....
dramamine
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So, OK, you see reason for all the dead and dying Palestinian civilians, who didn't try to break out on Oct 7. The fact that Israel is now trying to do the same to Lebanon should make you stop and think about what you are tacitly supporting. But it doesn't, which is very telling.
I don't support any of the violence.
GenghisKush
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She is, perhaps, the finest student yet produced by the Cannavore School for Social Justice Activism.
edit: This is tragically ironic for several reasons, not least of which being the Genocide of Greek people and ethnic cleansing of Asia Minor beginning in WW1 and lasting for thirty years where as many as 1,000,000 people were murdered by the Ottomans and Turkish nationalists.
edit: This is tragically ironic for several reasons, not least of which being the Genocide of Greek people and ethnic cleansing of Asia Minor beginning in WW1 and lasting for thirty years where as many as 1,000,000 people were murdered by the Ottomans and Turkish nationalists.
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October 7 would've never even happened had Israel not been living on top of others' land, taking whatever they wished to, destroying Palestinians' family homes, killing and raping with impunity, and having their crimes covered for at the UN and elsewhere by Uncle Sam, over and over again for fucking years... Fact.
The willful blindness, what-about-isms, and deflection among some in this thread is out-fucking-rageous.
GenghisKush
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Unfortunately these are paywalled, but they go into the symbiotic relationship between Netanyahu and Hamas and his motivations for strengthening them to keep the PLO weak and prevent a two state solution:
And a book on the subject - English version yet to be published:
nof an assignment, more of a tip: archive.ph is good for bypassing many paywalls.
for example, here is the full text of the first article you linked https://archive.ph/Fi4OJ
@GenghisKush
I’ve a subscription, but thanks, it will be useful for sites I haven’t and for others to use as well. Appreciate it.
I’ve a subscription, but thanks, it will be useful for sites I haven’t and for others to use as well. Appreciate it.
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If the US stands in the way of UN legal recourse, and Israel does not apply domestic law fairly, what else for Palestine but Hamas?
JFK nailed it best.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."
For the oppressor, Israel, to whine even a little bit after the 76 years of tyrannical criminal history and what is known, falls on my deaf ears. Period.
Bibi and his cabinet members, and anyone supporting his twisted, perverted version of blasphemous 'Zionism', should be stomped into the pavement until they're little more than a grease spot that causes curiosity later on. No care or concern for their 'pain' at this point. None..
Even before Israel - the British banned Arab political gatherings during a period when Palestinians were seeking a unity with Syria. The Brits as belligerent occupiers then instituted rule over Palestine under a League of Nations covenant they didn’t have and wouldn’t get for another two years. For their troubles 25 years later the British suffered numerous attacks and bombings at the hands of the Irgun, who were later largely absorbed into the IDF.
I wasn't aware of the Irgun history. The Brits, on the other hand, with -their- Empire, and the death and destruction they brought with their pompous pretentiousness and culturally centrist bullshit, not to be outdone, long before the US's empire-building, -that-, I was aware of.
Seems that being at the top of shit mountain goes to the heads of many, and they cease using them for what they're best for, thinking.
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