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moose eater
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moose eater
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Very close. Bang on the money in fact. They were involved with a number of the incidents he covers in this book, but including the coup.
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Hiddenjems
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The Jews have been a people for what, close to 3,000 years? They are a tough bunch, the longest lasting society currently living on earth. But what is the cost of such self preservation? In that whole time, what outside group has had anything good to say about them?
moose eater
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I have no problem with ANY faith that is well-boundaried. But whether fundamentalist redneck Christian sects victimizing others because they have no room for others to be who they are, or militant Zionists doing similar and worse, or whom ever, when these things rise to the point of massive ongoing war crimes, stealing land, etc., or systemic ongoing persecution of non-believers, etc., then at some point, it's time to evaporate someone for the sake of those they've systematically victimized and those who will come later.. No tolerance anymore for the bullshit. Long gone. If their parents didn't try to teach them such boundaries, then someone else may have to.
GenghisKush
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Sundown tonight begins Rosh Hashana, a Jewish new year and the birthday of the universe. We celebrate the beginning of year 5785. Happy new year. May you merit many years.
Do you have any opinion on secular Jews? Some estimates put half of all Jews in this group. The Jews I grew up with were mostly not religious, nor were their parents but they still identified as being Jewish. Because of this my view of Jews is that of ethnicity rather than faith-religion, although I am fully aware of the religious aspect. I view Christians and Muslims as strictly following religions. I view Arabs and Jews both as Semites (black, brown or white). It does get a little confusing.Psst. I think Moose has me on block. Feel free to repost, etc. if so inclined.
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Tokenizing is antisemitic and occurs when a small number of unrepresentative Jewish voices are portrayed as speaking for the entire Jewish community.www.ajc.org
right
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Please stay safe
EastCoastGambit
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Y'all scoffed and dismissed David Bedein and his work when I first brought him up.
Since then (yesterday, to be precise) his claims about UNRWA have been demonstrated to be true.
Two articles.
First, an op ed from Bedein published in 2014.
Second, discusses Hamas and UNRWA confirmation of many of Bedein's claims, published today.
UNRWA violates human rights laws that protect children
Will US citizens let US funded education for terror continue unabated?
By DAVID BEDEIN
JANUARY 6, 2014 12:36
Palestinian kids sit at UNRWA school 370(photo credit: REUTERS/Ibraheem Abu Mustafa)
UNRWA, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, shapes the mindset of a new generation of Palestinian youth, educating 492,000 students in 699 schools.
The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Article 3.1 of the Convention, requires that "in all actions concerning children... the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration."
Article 6 requires UN agencies to recognize "that every child has the inherent right to life," and, further, that UN agencies "shall ensure to the maximum extent possible the survival and development of the child."
Article 29 requires that such education be directed to "preparation of the child for responsible life in a free society, in the spirit of understanding, peace, tolerance, equality of the sexes, and friendship among all peoples...."
In direct contradiction of the mandate of UN education, UNRWA uses new school books from the Palestinian Authority which violate sacred UN principles of peace,
AS depicted in the film "Camp Jihad," produced by the Center for Near East Policy Research this past summer, UNRWA instructors openly incorporate virulent anti-Semitic teachings into the classroom, demonizing Jews as part of their UNRWA summer camp program, telling child campers that Jews are none other than "wolves" who chased their grandparents from their homes.
UNRWA educational facilities are sites of indoctrination, exploiting the malleability of children's minds to breed hostility toward Israel and the West and to encourage violent homicide suicide attacks, effectively grooming pupils for recruitment by terrorist groups like Hamas, which controls the teacher's union in Gaza.
Where is the accountability? With Islamic states that remain at war with Israel?The United States, the largest donor nation to UNRWA, contributes more than USD 275 million in 2013 alone, while the rest of the donors are spread among 38 democraticnations. The US continues unbridled funding of UNRWA, which results in theuse of US taxpayer dollars to teach Palestinian children to revere suicide-homicide bombings. Letters to USAID to condition funds to UNRWA on the cessation of such indoctrination have gone unanswered.
At the same time, UNRWA openly hires teachers with ties to designated terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, ignoring US law which forbids aid to agencies hat hire terrorists. While UNRWA has agreements with Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon for the verification of criminal records by potential Agency employees. No such agreement exists between UNRWA and the Palestinian Authority, where 19 UNRWA camps function under Palestinian jurisdiction.
Terror education abounds in the UNRWA schools. A fifth grade textbook taught in UNRWA schools known as Our Beautiful Language reads, "We shall return to the homes, to the valleys, to the mountains/Under the flag of glory, Jihad and struggle/With blood, sacrifice [fida’], fraternity and loyalty/We shall return."
An eighth PA school book goes even further: "O brother, the oppressors have exceeded all bounds and Jihad and sacrifice [fida’] are imperative...."
A ninth grade PA textbook indoctrinates students into martyrdom. In an exercise where students are asked to connect two sentence, a correct answer links the phrase "Morning of glory and red redemption, nourished by the blood of Martyrs" with the concept of "hope for the liberation of Palestine."
When UNRWA promotes such sentiments, UNRWA schools violate a child’s basic right to protection from harmful influence. The question remains: Will US citizens file complaints against UNRWA with Congress and with the courts, or will US citizens let this kind of US funded education for terror continue unabated?
Applying his master's degree in community organization social work (Wurwzeiler School of Social Work, New York, 1980) David Bedein, who has produced a book, nine monographs and six movies about UNRWA, invokes the cardinal principles of social work to critique UNRWA, as a UN social work agency, which violates the most fundamental human rights of children. He is also the Bureau Chief of the Israel Resource News AgencyThe Lawfare Project, www.thelawfareproject.org provided the author of this article with research into appropriate sources of international law.
UNRWA can’t fully vet staff for Hamas ties, because it lacks police, intelligence unit, United Nations says
“Most people who are engaged in underground organizations try not to have their involvement known publicly,” a U.N. spokesman told JNS.
Mike Wagenheim
Stéphane Dujarric, spokesman for the United Nations secretary-general, briefs reporters at U.N. headquarters on Oct. 9, 2023. Credit: Paulo Filgueiras/U.N. Photo.
(Oct. 1, 2024 / JNS)
The U.N. Relief and Works Agency didn’t realize earlier that the principal of one of its schools, who was also head of a teacher’s union, doubled as a Hamas terror commander in Lebanon, because the United Nations agency “doesn’t have an intelligence or police unit to investigate every staff member,” Stéphane Dujarric, the spokesman for U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres, told JNS on Monday.
Shortly after Fateh Sherif Abu el-Amin was killed in an Israeli airstrike in Lebanon on Sunday, Hamas identified him as its commander in Lebanon and paid tribute to him.
“Fateh Sherif was indeed an UNRWA employee. As soon as UNRWA received information about his possible involvement with Hamas at a senior level, he was immediately put on administrative leave without pay. This was back in March,” Dujarric said in response to a question from JNS at a press briefing. “Contrary to what information may be floating in social media or other places, he was never ever reinstated.”
In March, U.N. Watch notified the global body of the terror ties of Sherif, the principal of the UNRWA-run Deir Yassin Secondary School in al-Bass and head of the UNRWA teacher’s union, which oversees 39,000 students in 65 schools.
His suspension drew widespread protests and strikes from Lebanese teachers, and reports indicated that Sherif’s suspension had been lifted as a result, although Dujarric denied that charge.
Dujarric said that UNRWA has “taken on board” a number of recommendations made in an independent report early this year, compiled to address issues in its neutrality and vetting processes.
Many critics saw that reporting effort, led by former French foreign minister Catherine Colonna, as an attempt to absolve UNRWA of accountability for long-standing problems, with only cosmetic recommended changes.
Dujarric said that UNRWA, which “like most employers, doesn’t have an intelligence or police unit to investigate every staff member,” has acted swiftly when it has been aware of a problem.
“Every time UNRWA has received information beyond just a name, action has been taken, and we’ll continue to do so,” he said. “Anyone who works for the U.N. and engages in terror-like activity is unacceptable and outrageous and an insult to all U.N. staff members around the world.”
He added that vetting can be difficult, because “most people who are engaged in underground organizations try not to have their involvement known publicly.”
U.N. Watch presented the United Nations with extensive documentation of Sherif’s attendance of Hamas events, rallies and funerals. He was also photographed often with Hamas leaders, and top leaders of the terror organization attended the wedding of Sherif’s son.
Sharif also had long promoted terrorism on his Facebook account, including praising Hamas leadership.
Hillel Neuer, executive director of U.N. Watch, wrote after Sherif’s death and identification that “the U.N. cannot say that they didn’t know.”
U.N. Watch notified Guterres and Philippe Lazzarini, commissioner general of UNRWA, “again and again” to fire Sherif, Neuer wrote. “We gave them a huge dossier with the evidence.”
“Everyone at UNRWA knew,” he added. “Yet they refused to act.”
I didn;t read this whole thing. But the general premise of this to me is this. A humanitarian group is embedded in an oppressed culture with a "terrorist" ruling power, others might see it as freedom fighters of some sort depending on the perspective. Just like the population or civilians in Gaza may have genuine disdain for Israel, UNRWA folks might come to that perspective once embedded in an embattled region. They are obviously there to help, to would they not naturally come to an oppressive view towards the oppressive state of Israel? Its logical that they would/could. Is it right or wrong? Are some in that organization pretending to be something they are not while getting US and other global funding, probably.
But on the flip side. Israel also openly militarizes its youth and population. Forced conscription being one. And in some perspectives they are terrorists as well as they historically and continue to steal land, commit crimes against humanity, and control resources. They are also funded, much more so, by US interests so I guess two wrongs are two wrongs. But its still David vs Goliath but Goliath here has the star of David as its banner.
This whole instability in the region is just the result of yesteryear's bad policy and nation building. from the beginning there should have been two officially recognized states with full sovereign authority and self determination. Only Israel got statehood and they were backed by others to have the upper hand. You cant have your cake and eat it too. Act like this and expect not to be hated.
Isreal's only path to peace is by the destruction of others all around them. And that is their agenda, and its dangerous. Because at some point they may turn their attention/crosshairs in our direction. Clearly they have some dirt/leverage on the US govt. as it seems they control us more than we control them. I wonder what it is. I would fathom it has something to do with the deeply occult and esoteric nature of global leadership, including the UN.
GenghisKush
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I'll be fine. But thank you still.
Egypt and Jordan and Saudi Arabia (and even the government of Lebanon) all of them disagree.
xtsho
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You referenced some supposed reaction I apparently had to someone talking about letting myself be raped in the ass. I find that disturbing and I said so. It was a normal response. Not a reaction.
moose eater
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At no time did he personalize his analogy to you. It was an analogy to the threat that Palestinians deal with.
I made no insinuation whatsoever about any earlier experiences in your life.
I pointed out a small(ish) pattern in re. to discussion of sexuality (of now, 2 different situations or types) in your presence, in general, in these forums, based on two experiences of reading your comments.
I stand by my observation.
The 'why' of whatever it is you are reacting to in those cases is on you to pursue.
moose eater
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That was quite clear to me. Your persona as established on the boards has left a perception of a higher sense of integrity with you than to wish personal assaults on others like that.
Me? Not so much. I surpassed my tolerance for disjointed, illogical, uninformed/misinformed, gullible, propagandist, militant Zionist, ethnocentric, nationalist, loosely knit bullshit and boundary-lacking assholes a long time ago.
I don't pretend a lot anymore, if I ever did. Back in my MH clinical days, they paid me to sugar coat shit and pretend to be Mr. Diplomacy. They don't pay me anymore.
Brother Nature
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Excellent post, this thread needs the like button back…
ditto
