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Hiddenjems

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Anyone who is tired enough of being pressed to a wall or corner, of a world that failed to deliver much other than hollowness where the promises are involved, the hollow nonsense that people were/are fed and is tired of there not being any real hope for improvement, will go a lot further in expressing their disdain than the average pacified and comfortable worker bee.. Some places simply have more people who've endured those things and are tired enough of it that they're not to be fucked with.

"Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose."
Are they pressed up against a wall when they give almost no rights to women, or when they cut off the hand of a thief.

Muslims in sharia law countries aren’t the same as us. They have a completely different set of values. I’m not judging them, just making an observation.

Hell in their eyes we’re gross as hell eating an animal that lives in its own shit.

One thing you ate right about. Athiest, or non practicing folks in secular countries have a similar set of morals and values. But many cultures around the world don’t see words like good, fair, deserving the same as us.

For a hebrew thousands of years ago it was perfectly fair for a woman to be forced to marry her rapist after he pays the woman’s father 50 sheckles of silver.
 

JKD

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Sharia is not practiced the same way in every country in which Sharia is practiced.

Even within the same country there can exist variations by region.

When you see/hear Sharia discussed, it is most likely Hudud they are thinking of, which is a small part of Sharia. Even Hudud is not enforced uniformly.

If you think simply being Muslim makes Indonesians, Afghanis, Nigerians, Saudis, Uyghurs, Albanians etc think and behave exactly the same way, you’re not getting out enough.
 
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armedoldhippy

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If you think simply being Muslim makes Indonesians, Afghanis, Nigerians, Saudis, Uyghurs, Albanians etc think and behave exactly the same way, you’re not getting out enough.
careful there! you are showing signs of possessing common sense, and THAT leads to thinking and smoking pot. don't want an outbreak of THAT, now do we ? :good::thank you::smoke:
 

shiva82

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israel orders the iranian branch to fire 200 missiles in a firework display , so they can carry on committing genocide , invading and stealing semites land .

what a suprise

again
 

Cannavore

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JKD

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Shills like Ben Shapiro
He’s popular because many can’t tell the difference between someone trying to inform, vs someone trying to persuade, so they don’t recognise the rhetorical flourishes he employs; the data cherry-picking, the false equivalency, straw man arguments, emotional appeals - despite his ‘facts over feelings’ line, Gish Gallop etc. More adman than educator. An opinion salesman.
But he’s pretty slick at it.
 
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right

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This is a good read Genghis kush.
Y'all scoffed and dismissed David Bedein and his work when I first brought him up.

Since then (yesterday, to be precise) his claims about UNRWA have been demonstrated to be true.

Two articles.
First, an op ed from Bedein published in 2014.
Second, discusses Hamas and UNRWA confirmation of many of Bedein's claims, published today.

UNRWA violates human rights laws that protect children​

Will US citizens let US funded education for terror continue unabated?​

By DAVID BEDEIN
JANUARY 6, 2014 12:36

Palestinian kids sit at UNRWA school 370 (photo credit: REUTERS/Ibraheem Abu Mustafa)


Palestinian kids sit at UNRWA school 370(photo credit: REUTERS/Ibraheem Abu Mustafa)

UNRWA, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, shapes the mindset of a new generation of Palestinian youth, educating 492,000 students in 699 schools.

The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Article 3.1 of the Convention, requires that "in all actions concerning children... the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration."

Article 6 requires UN agencies to recognize "that every child has the inherent right to life," and, further, that UN agencies "shall ensure to the maximum extent possible the survival and development of the child."


Article 29 requires that such education be directed to "preparation of the child for responsible life in a free society, in the spirit of understanding, peace, tolerance, equality of the sexes, and friendship among all peoples...."

In direct contradiction of the mandate of UN education, UNRWA uses new school books from the Palestinian Authority which violate sacred UN principles of peace,

AS depicted in the film "Camp Jihad," produced by the Center for Near East Policy Research this past summer, UNRWA instructors openly incorporate virulent anti-Semitic teachings into the classroom, demonizing Jews as part of their UNRWA summer camp program, telling child campers that Jews are none other than "wolves" who chased their grandparents from their homes.

UNRWA educational facilities are sites of indoctrination, exploiting the malleability of children's minds to breed hostility toward Israel and the West and to encourage violent homicide suicide attacks, effectively grooming pupils for recruitment by terrorist groups like Hamas, which controls the teacher's union in Gaza.

Where is the accountability? With Islamic states that remain at war with Israel?The United States, the largest donor nation to UNRWA, contributes more than USD 275 million in 2013 alone, while the rest of the donors are spread among 38 democraticnations. The US continues unbridled funding of UNRWA, which results in theuse of US taxpayer dollars to teach Palestinian children to revere suicide-homicide bombings. Letters to USAID to condition funds to UNRWA on the cessation of such indoctrination have gone unanswered.

At the same time, UNRWA openly hires teachers with ties to designated terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, ignoring US law which forbids aid to agencies hat hire terrorists. While UNRWA has agreements with Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon for the verification of criminal records by potential Agency employees. No such agreement exists between UNRWA and the Palestinian Authority, where 19 UNRWA camps function under Palestinian jurisdiction.

Terror education abounds in the UNRWA schools. A fifth grade textbook taught in UNRWA schools known as Our Beautiful Language reads, "We shall return to the homes, to the valleys, to the mountains/Under the flag of glory, Jihad and struggle/With blood, sacrifice [fida’], fraternity and loyalty/We shall return."

An eighth PA school book goes even further: "O brother, the oppressors have exceeded all bounds and Jihad and sacrifice [fida’] are imperative...."

A ninth grade PA textbook indoctrinates students into martyrdom. In an exercise where students are asked to connect two sentence, a correct answer links the phrase "Morning of glory and red redemption, nourished by the blood of Martyrs" with the concept of "hope for the liberation of Palestine."

When UNRWA promotes such sentiments, UNRWA schools violate a child’s basic right to protection from harmful influence. The question remains: Will US citizens file complaints against UNRWA with Congress and with the courts, or will US citizens let this kind of US funded education for terror continue unabated?

Applying his master's degree in community organization social work (Wurwzeiler School of Social Work, New York, 1980) David Bedein, who has produced a book, nine monographs and six movies about UNRWA, invokes the cardinal principles of social work to critique UNRWA, as a UN social work agency, which violates the most fundamental human rights of children. He is also the Bureau Chief of the Israel Resource News AgencyThe Lawfare Project, www.thelawfareproject.org provided the author of this article with research into appropriate sources of international law.


UNRWA can’t fully vet staff for Hamas ties, because it lacks police, intelligence unit, United Nations says​

“Most people who are engaged in underground organizations try not to have their involvement known publicly,” a U.N. spokesman told JNS.​

Mike Wagenheim
Stéphane Dujarric, spokesman for the United Nations secretary-general, briefs reporters at U.N. headquarters on Oct. 9, 2023. Credit: Paulo Filgueiras/U.N. Photo.

Stéphane Dujarric, spokesman for the United Nations secretary-general, briefs reporters at U.N. headquarters on Oct. 9, 2023. Credit: Paulo Filgueiras/U.N. Photo.

(Oct. 1, 2024 / JNS)
The U.N. Relief and Works Agency didn’t realize earlier that the principal of one of its schools, who was also head of a teacher’s union, doubled as a Hamas terror commander in Lebanon, because the United Nations agency “doesn’t have an intelligence or police unit to investigate every staff member,” Stéphane Dujarric, the spokesman for U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres, told JNS on Monday.

Shortly after Fateh Sherif Abu el-Amin was killed in an Israeli airstrike in Lebanon on Sunday, Hamas identified him as its commander in Lebanon and paid tribute to him.

“Fateh Sherif was indeed an UNRWA employee. As soon as UNRWA received information about his possible involvement with Hamas at a senior level, he was immediately put on administrative leave without pay. This was back in March,” Dujarric said in response to a question from JNS at a press briefing. “Contrary to what information may be floating in social media or other places, he was never ever reinstated.”

In March, U.N. Watch notified the global body of the terror ties of Sherif, the principal of the UNRWA-run Deir Yassin Secondary School in al-Bass and head of the UNRWA teacher’s union, which oversees 39,000 students in 65 schools.

His suspension drew widespread protests and strikes from Lebanese teachers, and reports indicated that Sherif’s suspension had been lifted as a result, although Dujarric denied that charge.

Dujarric said that UNRWA has “taken on board” a number of recommendations made in an independent report early this year, compiled to address issues in its neutrality and vetting processes.

Many critics saw that reporting effort, led by former French foreign minister Catherine Colonna, as an attempt to absolve UNRWA of accountability for long-standing problems, with only cosmetic recommended changes.

Dujarric said that UNRWA, which “like most employers, doesn’t have an intelligence or police unit to investigate every staff member,” has acted swiftly when it has been aware of a problem.

“Every time UNRWA has received information beyond just a name, action has been taken, and we’ll continue to do so,” he said. “Anyone who works for the U.N. and engages in terror-like activity is unacceptable and outrageous and an insult to all U.N. staff members around the world.”



He added that vetting can be difficult, because “most people who are engaged in underground organizations try not to have their involvement known publicly.”

U.N. Watch presented the United Nations with extensive documentation of Sherif’s attendance of Hamas events, rallies and funerals. He was also photographed often with Hamas leaders, and top leaders of the terror organization attended the wedding of Sherif’s son.

Sharif also had long promoted terrorism on his Facebook account, including praising Hamas leadership.

Hillel Neuer, executive director of U.N. Watch, wrote after Sherif’s death and identification that “the U.N. cannot say that they didn’t know.”

U.N. Watch notified Guterres and Philippe Lazzarini, commissioner general of UNRWA, “again and again” to fire Sherif, Neuer wrote. “We gave them a huge dossier with the evidence.”

“Everyone at UNRWA knew,” he added. “Yet they refused to act.”
 

right

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Shills like Ben Shapiro should be deported to Israel
Morning Cannavore, you want to come over from jolly old England and deport American citizens. You are English? Am I mistaken.
Ben is an orthodox jew Israel is a very important part of that.
He is also right wing a d supports Israel on the right.
 

moose eater

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Are they pressed up against a wall when they give almost no rights to women, or when they cut off the hand of a thief.

Muslims in sharia law countries aren’t the same as us. They have a completely different set of values. I’m not judging them, just making an observation.

Hell in their eyes we’re gross as hell eating an animal that lives in its own shit.

One thing you ate right about. Athiest, or non practicing folks in secular countries have a similar set of morals and values. But many cultures around the world don’t see words like good, fair, deserving the same as us.

For a hebrew thousands of years ago it was perfectly fair for a woman to be forced to marry her rapist after he pays the woman’s father 50 sheckles of silver.
As is pointed out below, there is a false assumption that all Muslim rules are the same, and you're also dealing with standards that exist internally in -some- those sovereign countries. Apples and oranges.

Maybe ask the oppressed women in -some- of those countries (that continue on with women as 'less than') which is worse, having to accommodate a paternalistic society and culture, or having their babies end up headless from Gerneral Dynamics bombs on a wholesale scale basis, by aggressive, boundary-violating, internationally criminal nations they did nothing to?
 
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