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greyfader
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my god is bigger and badder than your god, by god, and can whip your gods ass any day of the week!
religion ruins everything!
i call Netanyahu "nuttyyahoo" as he is a Jewish fascist. i don't agree with Israel's policy towards the Palestinians.
Hamas was not popular with the general Palestinian population before and now that they have brought all this death and destruction to Gaza they will be even less popular.
both the Israeli far right and Hamas are responsible for all this bloodshed.
no matter the history of the conflict, the Hamas attack was an atrocity. and has given the Israeli right the excuse to commit more atrocities.
both are wrong and this violence needs to stop!
He just guaranteed that there is to be no ceasefire.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
EastCoastGambit
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I don't have any problem with anyone being religious. My issue is with institutionalized religion and their religious agendas. Most of the actions done in the name of said religions/God are hypocritical to the actual teachings, and then those committing those actions find a way to rationalize and justify what they did.
I'm not saying women don't have flaws as all humans do, but these leaders of governments, corporations, terrorist organizations, and religions are mostly men, and they are making a mess of the world for children and future generations. Its time for the dick waving to end.
EastCoastGambit
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There are blind spots all around in this too.
Some of those in support of Palestine should not be giving Hamas a pass for the atrocious attack or saying it was a predictable reaction to the systemic harm done to the Palestinian people. I certainly can sympathize with the frustration of that group of oppressed young people but change needs to come diplomatically, although slow, and there is worldwide support for the rights of Palestinians. Siding with Hamas for them undermines the efforts of the Palestinian authority though who knows how much intimidation and threat Hamas employs on the Gazan populace?
The other ridiculous blind spot is that it is fine to be critical of the Zionist Israeli occupation, history, and tactics. That does not immediately make you hate Jews or an anti-Semite as they like to paint anyone that criticizes their actions as a state.
People can hold more than one position at the same time. This stuff isn't black and white. Israel likes to act like they have played nice with the Palestinians and have offered them fair deals which Palestine just reject because they want to nothing less than to eradicate Israel and all Jews from existence. Why should Palestine accept an unfair deal? The last thing Israel wants is a two state solution. I am sure there is true racism in both camps, but at the end of the day I think the common people just want to exist, to have a place to be, to live. The difference is Israeli's have that luxury, though a bit uncomfortable considering all their neighbors harbor resentment towards them. Gaza the way it was had no ability to thrive, Israel left the area but did they ever really leave them alone, acknowledge their rights. Or did they taunt them and instigate conflicts that led up to bigger and bigger attacks and the rise of Hamas?
Now this whole thing is shaping up to WW3. The UN and any other unilateral governing body has failed. They needed to keep things in check and botched it. Dividing Palestine into Gaza and the West Bank was never a good idea. Hindsight is 20/20. No one had the cahones to call out Israel and look where that ended us. The US liked having a strategic ally in the area as we continue to muck about in the Mid East, well what was the long term plan for this island. Now the US is forced to be pulled into this conflict and it will destroy our global standing to be supporting wars on multiple fronts. What will that mean for us as citizens? Where do we go from here? We can't claim innocence as we knew what was going down. Some of us are not ignorant either, just we have no power to change the actions of the government. If we tear it down we sure as hell have got to have something better to put in its place. In retrospect the US should have forced the two state solution but how much power does Israel wield in US politics and private interests, my hunch is a whole lot?
Some of those in support of Palestine should not be giving Hamas a pass for the atrocious attack or saying it was a predictable reaction to the systemic harm done to the Palestinian people. I certainly can sympathize with the frustration of that group of oppressed young people but change needs to come diplomatically, although slow, and there is worldwide support for the rights of Palestinians. Siding with Hamas for them undermines the efforts of the Palestinian authority though who knows how much intimidation and threat Hamas employs on the Gazan populace?
The other ridiculous blind spot is that it is fine to be critical of the Zionist Israeli occupation, history, and tactics. That does not immediately make you hate Jews or an anti-Semite as they like to paint anyone that criticizes their actions as a state.
People can hold more than one position at the same time. This stuff isn't black and white. Israel likes to act like they have played nice with the Palestinians and have offered them fair deals which Palestine just reject because they want to nothing less than to eradicate Israel and all Jews from existence. Why should Palestine accept an unfair deal? The last thing Israel wants is a two state solution. I am sure there is true racism in both camps, but at the end of the day I think the common people just want to exist, to have a place to be, to live. The difference is Israeli's have that luxury, though a bit uncomfortable considering all their neighbors harbor resentment towards them. Gaza the way it was had no ability to thrive, Israel left the area but did they ever really leave them alone, acknowledge their rights. Or did they taunt them and instigate conflicts that led up to bigger and bigger attacks and the rise of Hamas?
Now this whole thing is shaping up to WW3. The UN and any other unilateral governing body has failed. They needed to keep things in check and botched it. Dividing Palestine into Gaza and the West Bank was never a good idea. Hindsight is 20/20. No one had the cahones to call out Israel and look where that ended us. The US liked having a strategic ally in the area as we continue to muck about in the Mid East, well what was the long term plan for this island. Now the US is forced to be pulled into this conflict and it will destroy our global standing to be supporting wars on multiple fronts. What will that mean for us as citizens? Where do we go from here? We can't claim innocence as we knew what was going down. Some of us are not ignorant either, just we have no power to change the actions of the government. If we tear it down we sure as hell have got to have something better to put in its place. In retrospect the US should have forced the two state solution but how much power does Israel wield in US politics and private interests, my hunch is a whole lot?
Here's the thing - they all worship the same God.
greyfader
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i know, but they act like they don't! the scholars of all 3 religions agree that they are worshipping the same god.
this is why i don't subscribe to any organized religion.
EastCoastGambit
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Even the Christians can't agree with any other Christians. I find the early Christian time period very interesting and you can see how man really has the need to interject their ideas and interpretations in things that are probably meant to not be taken literally. You had the Greek influence, the Pagans and Gnostics, then the state gets involved and emperors try to elevate themselves into saints. A person like Origen Adamantius who dedicated his life to faith and theology is both praised and condemned as a heretic, often by the same person.
That's why I can't take the Church seriously. So much of the original writing and interpretation has been lost or manipulated over the years. Everyone has their take. I was raised Catholic so I feel like I will always have a kind of loose Christian identity, but I don't claim to know anything in reality and just think we should treat others with respect, you know, the golden rule or whatever.
Yair Lapid accuses Netanyahu of lying by saying that’il was not warned the day before the’ attack on October 7
Benjamin Netanyahu is in a mess as the Israeli opposition’ is accusing him of letting the attacks of October 7. One imagines that the completely Zionized Parisian commentators will accuse him of conspiracy delirious ! It will be extremely difficult for them to hold this position of’ especially since the Egyptians affirmed exactly the same thing a few days after October 7. In other words’, he would have let do in order to save his political career and why not set up his suicidal millenarian biblical, make’une stone two shots.
“On the eve of Yom Kippur, on September 20, I’ issued an unusual warning against a violent outbreak of violence on several stages (i attach it here). The intelligence documents on which I have relied have also been submitted to Netanyahu. Those who brought the intelligence are the same members of the security system that Netanyahu now accuses of not having warned.”
Benjamin Netanyahu is in a mess as the Israeli opposition’ is accusing him of letting the attacks of October 7. One imagines that the completely Zionized Parisian commentators will accuse him of conspiracy delirious ! It will be extremely difficult for them to hold this position of’ especially since the Egyptians affirmed exactly the same thing a few days after October 7. In other words’, he would have let do in order to save his political career and why not set up his suicidal millenarian biblical, make’une stone two shots.
“On the eve of Yom Kippur, on September 20, I’ issued an unusual warning against a violent outbreak of violence on several stages (i attach it here). The intelligence documents on which I have relied have also been submitted to Netanyahu. Those who brought the intelligence are the same members of the security system that Netanyahu now accuses of not having warned.”
Ukrainian Drone Crashes Into Nuclear Waste Repository in Russian Border Region
Since the start of its counteroffensive in early June, Ukraine has been consistently launching drones into Russian territory. In August, following an unsuccessful drone attack on Moscow, the United Nations expressed its concerns regarding the safety of civilian infrastructure, emphasizing the importance of avoiding any such attacks.
A Ukrainian drone crashed into a nuclear waste storage facility at Russia's Kursk nuclear power plant, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said Saturday.
"On the afternoon of October 26, the Ukrainian armed forces attacked the Kursk nuclear power plant with three drones," said Maria Zakharova.
According to her, the explosive device damaged the walls of the warehouse. Two other bombs fell on administrative buildings at the nuclear power plant.
Russia's Special Operation in Ukraine
Western Special Services Preparing Ukrainian Saboteurs to Attack Russian NPPs: Russian Foreign Intel
11 October, 16:17
Some components of the drones used in this attack had been delivered by Western countries, according to preliminary information.
"What happened shows that the criminal regime in Kiev has no limits and can even commit acts of nuclear terrorism. There's no chance they couldn't understand that a nuclear catastrophe affecting all countries could have been the consequence of this drone attack. The Kiev regime has placed itself on the same level as the most heinous terrorist organizations," Zakharova stated.
At the same time, it is particularly alarming that "this crime could not have been committed without authorization, or even on the direct orders of Western officials," she lamented.
"We ask all governments to strongly condemn Kiev's barbaric acts," added the spokeswoman for Russian diplomacy.
Kiev troops regularly attempt to carry out attacks against border territories, as well as the western part of Russia, using drones and missiles.
The Russian Defense Ministry reported that three Ukrainian drones attempted to attack the Kursk nuclear power plant on October 26. Russian air defense intercepted them. Following the incident, the operation of the plant was not affected.
Russia has been conducting a special military operation in Ukraine since February 2022. Putin has stated that the operation is aimed at "protecting people who have been subjected to genocide by the Kiev regime for eight years."
Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (31 October 2023)
In total, 518 airplanes and 254 helicopters, 8,464 unmanned aerial vehicles, 441 air defence missile systems, 13,044 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,172 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 6,929 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 14,797 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.
How many special military deaths?
Hiddenjems
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