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armedoldhippy

Well-known member
Veteran
hmmm...i wonder what is different about the round with the silver tip, second from right in picture you posted, herman? a tracer round maybe? it's certainly not a hollowpoint, and those are banned by the Geneva protocols on armaments. even an exposed tip could allow it to expand however...:oops:
 

audiohi

Well-known member
Veteran
Meanwhile western weapons deliveries to ukranian ports have been buried with the grain in Ukraine and the Black Sea shipping route is in lock down. Any attempt of americans to engage the russian fleet will be crushed like the ukranian ”counter offensive”.

lol

4 days.

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Ship sailing from Israel becomes the first to break Russia’s grain blockade​

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/ukra...es-the-first-to-break-russia-s-grain-blockade

An American aircraft, P8 Poseidon, is providing security to vessels on this route
 

Capt.Ahab

Feeding the ducks with a bun.
Veteran
hmmm...i wonder what is different about the round with the silver tip, second from right in picture you posted, herman? a tracer round maybe? it's certainly not a hollowpoint, and those are banned by the Geneva protocols on armaments. even an exposed tip could allow it to expand however...:oops:
Hard to tell exactly what color that is .
If it is Russian ammo it is white which means it has a mild steel core.
 

greyfader

Well-known member
here's an interesting document on mysterious fires and explosions in Russia that are formally unexplained by the Russian government. fascinating as they occur all over the country and it's quite obvious that they could not have all been done by Ukrainians.

please notice that most of them are somehow related to the war effort and that these all occurred after feb 24, 2022.

from;

List of reported fires​

2022​

This is a dynamic list and may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness. You can help by adding missing items with reliable sources.

LocationDateFacilityDeathsCoordinates
Kstovo22 March 2022Oil depot[13]
Belgorod1 April 2022Oil depot[9]1
17px-WMA_button2b.png
50°35′29.8″N 36°40′13.1″E
Belgorod region12 April 2022Railway bridge[14]
Tver21 April 2022Central Research Institute of the Aerospace Defense Forces[15]7
Kineshma21 April 2022Chemical plant[16]
Korolyov, Moscow Oblast22 April 2022Industrial zone where many enterprises of the space and rocket industry are located[17]
Barvikha23 April 2022Governor's residence in Moscow Region[18]
Bryansk25 April 2022Fuel depot holding 5,000 tonnes of fuel.[19] 2nd Branch of Military Unit 55443–90.[20]
Ussuriysk25 April 2022Military air base[21]
Belgorod27 April 2022Ammunition depot[22]
Moscow28 April 2022Fires and explosions on Moscow's Kustanayskaya street[23]
Ilyinskoye30 April 2022GRES-2 power plant[24]
17px-WMA_button2b.png
52°1′26.3″N 75°28′34.5″E
Perm1 May 2022FKP gunpowder plant[25]
Moscow3 May 2022"Warehouse of a pro-Kremlin publishing house".[26]
Nizhny Novgorod4 May 2022Industrial zone[27]
Nizhnevartovsk4 May 2022Military enlistment office[28]
Kursk5 May 2022Unknown[29]
Perm8 May 2022Aviation college[25]
Dubovoye, Belgorod Oblast11 May 2022Unknown[30]
Teysin, Amursky district12 May 2022Military installation[31]
Berdsk17 May 2022Chemical plant[32]
Zhukovsky21 May 2022Fire at the substation in TsAGI (aviation institute)[33]
Moscow24 May 2022Saint Peter and Paul Church[34][35]
Moscow3 June 2022Grand Setun Plaza Building, business center with Pension Fund of Russia offices[36]
Komsomolsk-on-Amur4 June 2022Rosgvardia (National Guard of the Russian Federation) building[37]
Sarov, Nizhny Novgorod8 June 2022Rosatom (Nuclear) Institute of Digital Technologies[38]
Sergiyev Posad8 June 2022Zagorsk Optical-Mechanical Plant warehouse (optical, thermal & night-vision sighting systems)[39]
Vladivostok8 June 2022Military enlistment office[40]
Ust-Luga10 June 2022"Factor" timber terminal[41] owned by oligarch Ramis Deberdeyev
near Gulevka11 June 2022Druzhba pipeline[42]
Angarsk23 June 2022LPG station (liquefied petroleum gas station)[43]0
Moscow3 July 2022Residential skyscraper[44]
near Moscow3 August 2022e-commerce warehouse[45]1
Volokolamsk12 September 2022Plastic chip depot warehouse[46]
Novokuznetsk26 September 2022Steel plant owned by Putin ally Roman Abramovich[47]0
Moscow9 October 2022Television and radio tower[48]
Belgorod11 October 2022Electricity substation[49]
Ryazan21 October 2022Gunpowder factory[50]16
Saint Petersburg26 October 2022Warehouse[51]0
Stalnoi Kon16 November 2022Oil depot[52]0
near Saint Petersburg19 November 2022Gas pipeline[53]0
Moscow21 November 2022Warehouse near three railway stations[54]5
Angarsk27 November 2022Angarsk Petrochemical Plant (largest oil refinery in Russia)[55]0
Surazh29 November 2022Oil storage tank[56]0
Perm30 November 2022Thermal Power Plant #9 (roof of the turbine room)[57]0
Khimki9 December 2022MEGA Khimki Shopping Centre, explosion and fire covering 18,000 square metres (190,000 sq ft)[58][59]1[58]
17px-WMA_button2b.png
55°54′40.1″N 37°23′47.1″E
Barnaul9 December 2022Tyre manufacturing plant[60]0
Moscow10 December 2022Pushkin State Museum of Fine Arts[61]0
17px-WMA_button2b.png
55°44′48.4″N 37°36′11.5″E
Balashikha12 December 2022Shopping center[62]0
17px-WMA_button2b.png
55°43′31″N 37°59′14″E
Nizhnekamsk12 December 2022Synthetic rubber factory[63]0
Saint Petersburg13 December 2022Machine-building plant[64]0
Angarsk15 December 2022Angarsk Petrochemical Plant[65]2
Vladivostok17 December 2022Confectionery factory warehouse[66]0
Snezhinsk18 December 2022Shopping center[67]0
Verkhnemarkovo, Irkutsk Oblast18 December 2022Oil and gas condensate field[68]0
17px-WMA_button2b.png
57°20′14″N 107°03′09″E
Kalinino, Chuvashia20 December 2022Gas pipeline[69]3
Kurgan20 December 2022Kamaz auto service center[70]0
Murmansk22 December 2022Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier[71]0
Moscow23 December 2022Military base[72]0
Murmansk24 December 2022Supply base[73]0
Novosibirsk26 December 2022Warehouse[74]
Saint Petersburg29 December 2022Warehouse[75][76]0
Kronstadt30 December 2022Oil tanker[77]0
Rostov Nuclear Power Plant31 December 2022Transformer substation[78]1

2023​


LocationDateFacilityDeathsCoordinates
Novy Oskol3 January 2023Military facility[79]
Saint Petersburg5 January 2023Agricultural machinery plant[80]2
Moscow6 January 2023Foreign Ministry[81]0
Barnaul8 January 2023Shopping center[82]0
Bratsk9 January 2023Military enlistment office[83][84]0
Moscow10 January 2023Auto service[85]0
Ust-Ilimsk, Irkutsk Oblast10 January 2023Sosnovaya Liniya timber mill[86]0
Moscow11 January 2023Construction site[87]0
Saint Petersburg12 January 2023Warehouse[88]0
Manzherok, Altai Republic17 January 2023Hotel[89]0
Angarsk21 January 2023Oil depot[90]
Kirov25 January 2023Church[91]0
Moscow28 January 2023Warehouse[92]
Kstovo7 February 2023Oil refinery[93]0
Novoshakhtinsk8 February 2023Oil refinery[94]0
Yeremeytsevo, Yaroslavl Oblast13 February 2023Pipeline[95]0
Krasnoyarsk13 February 2023Warehouse[96]0
Yangiskain, Bashkortostan13 February 2023Livestock complex[97]0
Moscow14 February 2023Car service station[98]0
Kazan14 February 2023Rubber warehouse[99]
Kolomna14 February 2023Warehouse[100]
Magadan17 February 2023Truck warehouse[101]
Ufa17 February 2023Chemical plant[102]0
Krasnoyarsk22 February 2023Warehouse[103]0
Moscow26 February 2023Textile plant[104]0
Tuapse28 February 2023Oil terminal[105]0
Saint Petersburg1 March 2023Warehouse[106]0
Saint Petersburg2 March 2023Textile warehouse and office complex[107]1
Vidnoye, Moscow Oblast5 March 2023Coke and gas works[108]
Moscow7 March 2023Interior Ministry building[109]
Kolyubakino, Moscow Oblast11 March 2023Plastic production facility[110]0
Moscow11 March 2023Spas TV office building[111]0
Odintsovo13 March 2023Warehouse[112]0
Rostov-on-Don16 March 2023FSB building[113]1
Dolgoprudny18 March 2023Chemical plant[114]0
Yaroslavl23 March 2023Yaroslavl Motor Plant[115]0
Aramil, Sverdlovsk Oblast24 March 2023Research-and-production enterprise[116]0
Aksay, Rostov Oblast25 March 2023Warehouse[117]0
Pelym, Sverdlovsk Oblast30 March 2023Gas pipeline[118]0
Moscow5 April 2023Defense ministry[119]0
Voronezh7 April 2023Aircraft plant[120]0
Nakhabino, Moscow Oblast10 April 2023Auto parts warehouse[121][122]0
Kazan16 April 2023Tank training ground[123]0
Stavropol4 May 2023Concrete production plant[124]0
Moscow4 May 2023Administrative building[125]0
Odintsovo30 May 2023Paper warehouse[126]3
Novocherkasskaya, Rostov Oblast14 June 2023Power station [127]0
Voronezh24 June 2023Fuel depot [128]0

See also​

 

audiohi

Well-known member
Veteran
This is simply old school psychological projection on your part.

But hey do explain exactly what the ukranian offensive have achieved aside from 1 dead russian for every 10 ukranians.

I hear there was a little incident on Dzharylhach island where it was about 200 russian casualties and 0 Ukrainian.

200:0

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OntologicalTurn

Well-known member
RUssia bom

Russia invaded a sovereign nation, bombed and shelled civilian infrastructure like hospitals, bombed and shelled civilians in general, bombed and shelled the evacuation routes from the flood they caused when they blew up a dam, bombed and shelled people brining humanitarian aid to those in the flood zones and then Russian ball lickers throw a temper tantrum like the little bitch boys they are about how Ukraine is attacking Russian territory. What a bunch of fags.

Foolish is the moron who thinks he can sow the wind and not reap the whirlwind.
Not supporting Russia, but it's not like USA and some important NATO members never had done similar things, isnt? I'm a Latín American living in Latín América, and Cóndor operation is very present still. So it's not like any other imperialistic country (USA, China,etc) has a position of moral superiority about invading sovereign nations.
 

greyfader

Well-known member
Not supporting Russia, but it's not like USA and some important NATO members never had done similar things, isnt? I'm a Latín American living in Latín América, and Cóndor operation is very present still. So it's not like any other imperialistic country (USA, China,etc) has a position of moral superiority about invading sovereign nations.
except that the US and NATO countries have not invaded another country with the goal of permanently annexing and occupying it for all eternity. Putler has publically announced that Crimea and the four occupied oblast in Ukraine are now forever a part of the Russian Federation.

this is a very important distinction.

he failed at taking the whole country in the opening weeks of the war or he would have annexed the entirety of Ukraine
 

OntologicalTurn

Well-known member
except that the US and NATO countries have not invaded another country with the goal of permanently annexing and occupying it for all eternity. Putler has publically announced that Crimea and the four occupied oblast in Ukraine are now forever a part of the Russian Federation.

this is a very important distinction.

he failed at taking the whole country in the opening weeks of the war or he would have annexed the entirety of Ukraine
Well, maybe not recently, but a good part of what is now the US used to be Mexico, isn't it?
Or whenyou guys annexed the Kingdom of Hawaii?
Or all the broken treaties with the Native American tribes (who were considered sovereign nations in the time) in their expansion west?
Or Puerto Rico? (which, well, it was not an independent nation but part of Spain but whatever)
And the Monroe Doctrine?
and well... a good part of Africa not long ago was still the colonial property of Europe, especially France, Belgium, Portugal... They didn't leave because they were good and compassionate guys, rather they had to be expelled by the anti-colonial wars.
Clearly, Russia is the invader and I do not justify it (although Ukraine has been bombing the separatist cities of Donetsk and Lugansk since 2014, that is also important to remember) but we must not fall for double standards.
 

Blue Rhino

Well-known member
Not supporting Russia, but it's not like USA and some important NATO members never had done similar things, isnt? I'm a Latín American living in Latín América, and Cóndor operation is very present still. So it's not like any other imperialistic country (USA, China,etc) has a position of moral superiority about invading sovereign nations.
So you're saying that Americans are intentionally bombing and shelling civilians in Latin America and bombing hospitals and blowing up dams? That they're intentionally targeting humanitarian aid? Intentionally gunning down civilians who are just trying to get away from the shit?
 

Blue Rhino

Well-known member
Well, maybe not recently, but a good part of what is now the US used to be Mexico, isn't it?
And wasn't Mexico colonized by the Spanish before that? Also funny how Spanish imperialism, colonialism and committing genocide gets a free pass these days.
Or whenyou guys annexed the Kingdom of Hawaii?
Hey, in 1993 the President signed an apology resolution for the overthrow of the kingdom so...there is that.
Or all the broken treaties with the Native American tribes (who were considered sovereign nations in the time) in their expansion west?
Of course things like expansion and genocide are uniquely American. Never in the history of everything did anything like that ever happen before.
Or Puerto Rico? (which, well, it was not an independent nation but part of Spain but whatever)
Spain ceded Puerto Rico to the US when they signed the Treaty of Paris after the Spanish-American War. Again, interesting how you don't hold Spain in any way accountable for their imperialism and colonialism.
And the Monroe Doctrine?
Actually what's funny about it is a bunch of people of European descent created a document that told Europeans that the Americas were closed to any further European invasion.
and well... a good part of Africa not long ago was still the colonial property of Europe, especially France, Belgium, Portugal... They didn't leave because they were good and compassionate guys, rather they had to be expelled by the anti-colonial wars.
Yep. Sometimes you fight and win, and sometimes you fight and lose, like the Native Americans.
Clearly, Russia is the invader and I do not justify it (although Ukraine has been bombing the separatist cities of Donetsk and Lugansk since 2014, that is also important to remember) but we must not fall for double standards.
Was that before or after Ruzzia invaded Crimea?
 

Blue Rhino

Well-known member
Building and expanding your country by genocide and slavery isn't a grey area, it solidly fucking dark...
Welcome to human history. The history of imperialism IS the history of mass murder and/or slavery. Hell, the whole idea of empire is predicated on the belief that we are superior to you and thus we have the right to take your shit and kill you if necessary, or sometimes just for shits and giggles.
I'm not saying it's right but that's been the reality for thousands of years.
 

Blue Rhino

Well-known member
here's an interesting document on mysterious fires and explosions in Russia that are formally unexplained by the Russian government. fascinating as they occur all over the country and it's quite obvious that they could not have all been done by Ukrainians.

please notice that most of them are somehow related to the war effort and that these all occurred after feb 24, 2022.

from;

List of reported fires​

2022​

This is a dynamic list and may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness. You can help by adding missing items with reliable sources.

LocationDateFacilityDeathsCoordinates
Kstovo22 March 2022Oil depot[13]
Belgorod1 April 2022Oil depot[9]1
17px-WMA_button2b.png
50°35′29.8″N 36°40′13.1″E
Belgorod region12 April 2022Railway bridge[14]
Tver21 April 2022Central Research Institute of the Aerospace Defense Forces[15]7
Kineshma21 April 2022Chemical plant[16]
Korolyov, Moscow Oblast22 April 2022Industrial zone where many enterprises of the space and rocket industry are located[17]
Barvikha23 April 2022Governor's residence in Moscow Region[18]
Bryansk25 April 2022Fuel depot holding 5,000 tonnes of fuel.[19] 2nd Branch of Military Unit 55443–90.[20]
Ussuriysk25 April 2022Military air base[21]
Belgorod27 April 2022Ammunition depot[22]
Moscow28 April 2022Fires and explosions on Moscow's Kustanayskaya street[23]
Ilyinskoye30 April 2022GRES-2 power plant[24]
17px-WMA_button2b.png
52°1′26.3″N 75°28′34.5″E
Perm1 May 2022FKP gunpowder plant[25]
Moscow3 May 2022"Warehouse of a pro-Kremlin publishing house".[26]
Nizhny Novgorod4 May 2022Industrial zone[27]
Nizhnevartovsk4 May 2022Military enlistment office[28]
Kursk5 May 2022Unknown[29]
Perm8 May 2022Aviation college[25]
Dubovoye, Belgorod Oblast11 May 2022Unknown[30]
Teysin, Amursky district12 May 2022Military installation[31]
Berdsk17 May 2022Chemical plant[32]
Zhukovsky21 May 2022Fire at the substation in TsAGI (aviation institute)[33]
Moscow24 May 2022Saint Peter and Paul Church[34][35]
Moscow3 June 2022Grand Setun Plaza Building, business center with Pension Fund of Russia offices[36]
Komsomolsk-on-Amur4 June 2022Rosgvardia (National Guard of the Russian Federation) building[37]
Sarov, Nizhny Novgorod8 June 2022Rosatom (Nuclear) Institute of Digital Technologies[38]
Sergiyev Posad8 June 2022Zagorsk Optical-Mechanical Plant warehouse (optical, thermal & night-vision sighting systems)[39]
Vladivostok8 June 2022Military enlistment office[40]
Ust-Luga10 June 2022"Factor" timber terminal[41] owned by oligarch Ramis Deberdeyev
near Gulevka11 June 2022Druzhba pipeline[42]
Angarsk23 June 2022LPG station (liquefied petroleum gas station)[43]0
Moscow3 July 2022Residential skyscraper[44]
near Moscow3 August 2022e-commerce warehouse[45]1
Volokolamsk12 September 2022Plastic chip depot warehouse[46]
Novokuznetsk26 September 2022Steel plant owned by Putin ally Roman Abramovich[47]0
Moscow9 October 2022Television and radio tower[48]
Belgorod11 October 2022Electricity substation[49]
Ryazan21 October 2022Gunpowder factory[50]16
Saint Petersburg26 October 2022Warehouse[51]0
Stalnoi Kon16 November 2022Oil depot[52]0
near Saint Petersburg19 November 2022Gas pipeline[53]0
Moscow21 November 2022Warehouse near three railway stations[54]5
Angarsk27 November 2022Angarsk Petrochemical Plant (largest oil refinery in Russia)[55]0
Surazh29 November 2022Oil storage tank[56]0
Perm30 November 2022Thermal Power Plant #9 (roof of the turbine room)[57]0
Khimki9 December 2022MEGA Khimki Shopping Centre, explosion and fire covering 18,000 square metres (190,000 sq ft)[58][59]1[58]
17px-WMA_button2b.png
55°54′40.1″N 37°23′47.1″E
Barnaul9 December 2022Tyre manufacturing plant[60]0
Moscow10 December 2022Pushkin State Museum of Fine Arts[61]0
17px-WMA_button2b.png
55°44′48.4″N 37°36′11.5″E
Balashikha12 December 2022Shopping center[62]0
17px-WMA_button2b.png
55°43′31″N 37°59′14″E
Nizhnekamsk12 December 2022Synthetic rubber factory[63]0
Saint Petersburg13 December 2022Machine-building plant[64]0
Angarsk15 December 2022Angarsk Petrochemical Plant[65]2
Vladivostok17 December 2022Confectionery factory warehouse[66]0
Snezhinsk18 December 2022Shopping center[67]0
Verkhnemarkovo, Irkutsk Oblast18 December 2022Oil and gas condensate field[68]0
17px-WMA_button2b.png
57°20′14″N 107°03′09″E
Kalinino, Chuvashia20 December 2022Gas pipeline[69]3
Kurgan20 December 2022Kamaz auto service center[70]0
Murmansk22 December 2022Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier[71]0
Moscow23 December 2022Military base[72]0
Murmansk24 December 2022Supply base[73]0
Novosibirsk26 December 2022Warehouse[74]
Saint Petersburg29 December 2022Warehouse[75][76]0
Kronstadt30 December 2022Oil tanker[77]0
Rostov Nuclear Power Plant31 December 2022Transformer substation[78]1

2023​


LocationDateFacilityDeathsCoordinates
Novy Oskol3 January 2023Military facility[79]
Saint Petersburg5 January 2023Agricultural machinery plant[80]2
Moscow6 January 2023Foreign Ministry[81]0
Barnaul8 January 2023Shopping center[82]0
Bratsk9 January 2023Military enlistment office[83][84]0
Moscow10 January 2023Auto service[85]0
Ust-Ilimsk, Irkutsk Oblast10 January 2023Sosnovaya Liniya timber mill[86]0
Moscow11 January 2023Construction site[87]0
Saint Petersburg12 January 2023Warehouse[88]0
Manzherok, Altai Republic17 January 2023Hotel[89]0
Angarsk21 January 2023Oil depot[90]
Kirov25 January 2023Church[91]0
Moscow28 January 2023Warehouse[92]
Kstovo7 February 2023Oil refinery[93]0
Novoshakhtinsk8 February 2023Oil refinery[94]0
Yeremeytsevo, Yaroslavl Oblast13 February 2023Pipeline[95]0
Krasnoyarsk13 February 2023Warehouse[96]0
Yangiskain, Bashkortostan13 February 2023Livestock complex[97]0
Moscow14 February 2023Car service station[98]0
Kazan14 February 2023Rubber warehouse[99]
Kolomna14 February 2023Warehouse[100]
Magadan17 February 2023Truck warehouse[101]
Ufa17 February 2023Chemical plant[102]0
Krasnoyarsk22 February 2023Warehouse[103]0
Moscow26 February 2023Textile plant[104]0
Tuapse28 February 2023Oil terminal[105]0
Saint Petersburg1 March 2023Warehouse[106]0
Saint Petersburg2 March 2023Textile warehouse and office complex[107]1
Vidnoye, Moscow Oblast5 March 2023Coke and gas works[108]
Moscow7 March 2023Interior Ministry building[109]
Kolyubakino, Moscow Oblast11 March 2023Plastic production facility[110]0
Moscow11 March 2023Spas TV office building[111]0
Odintsovo13 March 2023Warehouse[112]0
Rostov-on-Don16 March 2023FSB building[113]1
Dolgoprudny18 March 2023Chemical plant[114]0
Yaroslavl23 March 2023Yaroslavl Motor Plant[115]0
Aramil, Sverdlovsk Oblast24 March 2023Research-and-production enterprise[116]0
Aksay, Rostov Oblast25 March 2023Warehouse[117]0
Pelym, Sverdlovsk Oblast30 March 2023Gas pipeline[118]0
Moscow5 April 2023Defense ministry[119]0
Voronezh7 April 2023Aircraft plant[120]0
Nakhabino, Moscow Oblast10 April 2023Auto parts warehouse[121][122]0
Kazan16 April 2023Tank training ground[123]0
Stavropol4 May 2023Concrete production plant[124]0
Moscow4 May 2023Administrative building[125]0
Odintsovo30 May 2023Paper warehouse[126]3
Novocherkasskaya, Rostov Oblast14 June 2023Power station [127]0
Voronezh24 June 2023Fuel depot [128]0

See also​

Those silly Ruzzians REALLY need to be more careful when they're smoking.
 

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