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slownickel

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You talking about meeting at the cup itself? Like with a ticket?

Yes, I am going with a ticket.... haha.

We can all meet outside somewhere. Actually one of the guys said we can use his place to meet instead. Will depend how many want to meet up.
 

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good to hear you use citric acid, as that is my go to too..
i wanted to hear your assescment of how important boron & iron are as i dont see much mentioned on them here.
i once experimented with high boron levels, and cant say for sure but the one plant that received a repeatedly high boron dose flowered in about 2/3 of the time compared to the others... im not 100% certain it was the boron though.. i still want to redo the test properly...
but i have also noticed that high levels of Fe in veg give very healthy plants.
Also you see any benefit in adding ascorbic acid?
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Citric acid flushes once a week in alkaline soils are a must. No doubt about it. I am aiming at subbing the Korean fruit enzymes instead.

Boron, one of those unknowns. If you look at the literature and the superficial evidence we have in hand, this plant is one of those that his a boron lover! We have seen boron levels in the soil coming back what would kill many other crops. With that said, boron is a fine line. You cross it and it is not pretty. Toxicity shows up in two seconds.

Iron at least most places that I work, is always in excess. In my farm, there is one small area that has no iron. I mean less than 1 ppm. The rest of the farm is 40 to 100 ppm. There are very few places in the world that need iron. If you need it, yes, it is a save all element. You can go no where without iron.

Never used ascorbic acid. No idea. Never seen it commercially offered either.

I wonder what acid we are actually forming with the fruit enzyme process....
 

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I watched that video (without sound) what was that white granule stuff she added? sugar or citric acid? maybe I missed the caption for what it was
 

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Aroma roasters in downtown SR is a sweet spot. Great place to meet up if the house doesn't work out. Just a thought. And I believe it's the closest to the fairgrounds. Maybe a mile or 2 away.
 

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I watched that video (without sound) what was that white granule stuff she added? sugar or citric acid? maybe I missed the caption for what it was

It was sugar. The amounts were there in the captions. Turn on your volume this time as punishment for not taking notes.
 

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My manganese deficiencies at high pH's have disappeared using this stuff.

To take alkaline water, sugar and alkaline fruit waste and in 30 days have some super low pH which is not vinegar, interests me like you can't believe. I spend a lot of money buying citric acid, this works much better.

Mine doesn't come out purple by the way.

Are you making giant 10000L vats of that stuff for your large coverage area?
 

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Are you making giant 10000L vats of that stuff for your large coverage area?

Right now I am just doing batchs of 220 liters at a time. I think we have 5 or 6 working.

I need to get a different size unit, the problem is that each batch is supposed to have minimal air space and it needs to be burped daily. I have the 10,000 liter tanks, the mechanics is not in place yet. I am working on it.

Just made a lime squisher. You throw them in the top and the machine crushes the fruit in rollers. Perfect for my rejects!

Lime enzymes!

Now for some good foo foo artwork and sell it to you all for $10 a liter!
 

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I'm sure you've seen this site, but if not, there's a lot about FPE's

http://theunconventionalfarmer.com/

Thanks, neat page.

Not sure I want to get to blending fish haha.. I like buying 65% aminos from fish that I just mix into water and push it through the irrigation system. Not into the drama nor the smell.

As for the enzymes, the process starts first with fresh waste and sugar converting to alchohol, then to vinegar and later to enzymes.

I am probably not getting to the full enzyme stage yet as I keep using it all too soon. I imagine that I am getting to the vinegar/enzyme stage. The response is incredible in the field.
 

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Just realizing that because of this thread, i went down a wormhole of cockroach and beetle composting last night.
 
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