Kali China

[Common Sense]

My Kali China on the balcony terrace 5 completed weeks after first pistils appeared.
Here she is after sunrise drenched in morning dew.

I was out of town for two weeks and the weather was not optimal, except for the last four days. Instead of watering, all my trusted plant service person could do was to remove the plants from their undersaucers, they were about to drown. Temps in the single digit range. Yes, the mm precipitation (blue bars) is the same as liters per square meter.

When I returned, I expected the worst, but, except for many yellow leafs, they are looking good. Not a single spot of budrot and no pest damage at all. I had expected hords of aphids or spider mites. At least some powdery mildew. Got lucky I guess, so far none of the above. She has 11 nice branches, over 90cm tall and sits in a 15L pot with peatless soil.




Let's hope for a few more sunny days. I will be able to put them under a cover when more rain comes, but every night the temp will go below 10 °C and there will be a lot of moisture in the morning.
I did have to remove a small spot of budrot from one of the two Zamaldelica clones that are in 3L pots next to her.

 

[LHC]

Beautiful plant @Common Sense

Will it finish before it is to cold?

 

[Common Sense]

Beautiful plant @Common Sense

Will it finish before it is to cold?

Thanks @LHC! We are not expecting any frost soon, so I think it will work out. I am more concerned about the moisture from dew in the morning. This is my first outdoor attempt. Suprisingly, the trichomes on the tops of the KC are already mostly cloudy with some amber. That is 35 days after first pistils appeared. Only checked the very tops and clearly she needs some more time, but she was quite fast to finish indoors as well.

 

[paisajedehierba]

Thanks @LHC! We are not expecting any frost soon, so I think it will work out. I am more concerned about the moisture from dew in the morning. This is my first outdoor attempt. Suprisingly, the trichomes on the tops of the KC are already mostly cloudy with some amber. That is 35 days after first pistils appeared. Only checked the very tops and clearly she needs some more time, but she was quite fast to finish indoors as well.

Hi Common Sense,
I grew KC outdoors guerilla style two years ago. It was a large plant, height 2m. Rainfalls, morning dew and heavy winds in early autumn didn`t harm her at all here at 49N. No mold, no other pests, no broken branches. Harvest early October. Hope your experience will be similar.

 

[Common Sense]

Hi Common Sense,
I grew KC outdoors guerilla style two years ago. It was a large plant, height 2m. Rainfalls, morning dew and heavy winds in early autumn didn`t harm her at all here at 49N. No mold, no other pests, no broken branches. Harvest early October. Hope your experience will be similar.

That's good to know @paisajedehierba! I moved her to a covered spot, but that did not really make a difference last night because there was too much wind.
Really like her effects (indoor harvest same plant, in the jar 3 months). This is my third KC and she has the most sativa, awake and energetic high of the three. Still very comforting, happy, euphoric and psychedelic. After a hard day a work it's like she speaks to me when I vape her: "close your eyes while I lift you up!"

 

[toltschok]

Hi Common Sense,
I grew KC outdoors guerilla style two years ago. It was a large plant, height 2m. Rainfalls, morning dew and heavy winds in early autumn didn`t harm her at all here at 49N. No mold, no other pests, no broken branches. Harvest early October. Hope your experience will be similar.

Many thanks for the Information, mine is at 50N and I was worried about Mold. Good to know. It smells wonderful, has a decent amount of Funk in it, I'll leave it for at least another 2-3 Weeks, the Weather Forecast looks good.

 

[Common Sense]

Here is one from today, she is hanging in there

 

[dubi]

I am feeling special about this Kali China, she’s the queen of the garden at the moment as she stretches and I take care of the kings. 3 mo old in 7 gal living soil with jadam jlf and very light salts waterings View attachment 19044379

Thats a beauty! @moofingaround I think we got the same pheno (china yunnan leaning), large internodes and incense smell on stem rub! Also around 2 and a half months of veg and really hoping she starts to flower soon since she is already well over 2 meters, and end of October we get cold weather and lots of rain. Have a great flowering everyone!!
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Hi @moofingaround and @Green Zenit you got very similar looking phenos: vigorous, purple stems, long sativa branches, guess it's the 21 line (21#16 x 21#4). How are they doing nowadays ?

 

[dubi]

Many thanks for the Information, mine is at 50N and I was worried about Mold. Good to know. It smells wonderful, has a decent amount of Funk in it, I'll leave it for at least another 2-3 Weeks, the Weather Forecast looks good. View attachment 19072152 View attachment 19072147

Welcome to ICMag @toltschok and thanks for choosing Kali China for this outdoor season!
This strain is outside her limits at your latitude, but glad to see her ripening not far from finishing!
Hopefully you can have a successful harvest in a few days!

 

[dubi]

Here is one from today, she is hanging in there
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Lovely trichomes, colors and outdoor hashplant attitude @Common Sense
Is she a new girl from seed or a clone from previous indoor run ?
Hope she is doing good and close to finish as we speaking!

Glad to know you are already enjoying with the qualities of your indoor Kali China harvest

 

[dubi]

Hola Dubi, she´s almost done. If I count right, first pistils appeared 8 weeks ago tomorrow. Due to grow in the too humid cellar, I had mold in one main bud (relativ humidity around 80% during two days, at the moment between 60 and 65%, temp. round about 27°C). The rest of the plant is healthy. No I´m using extra head mats to lower down humidity. I´m impressed with those resinous buds. The smells are spicy/incense, hardly any fruitiness, slightly creamy.

I have had the pleasure of growing one KC outdoors in 2021. The complete yield was a gift for friend, so I can not speak about it. He reported back that he had enjoyed KC very much. It had a pronounced analgesic effect for him, so that he had to take less or no hard pain medication after a hip operation.

Congrats @paisajedehierba on the harvest of your small and cute indoor Kali China
Incense and spiciness are guaranteed with this strain. I'm glad your friend enjoyed the outdoor plant you gifted him . Since it’s your first time smoking this genetics, I hope you like this new plant!

 

[dubi]

Hi everyone,
I'm growing Kali China for the first time and I'm very excited after reading so many positive things about it. I'm not sure about the date I switched to 12/12 but it should be around 23.06-26.06. I can't say much about the smell yet because I still have a bit of a cold, but i would say it's sweet and creamy. The China yunnan next to her smells the same, only a little stronger, which is probably because it was faster building first pistils.
I hope everything goes smoothly and I can test this beautiful strain soon.
Peace

Welcome to ICMag @champloo thanks a lot to dedicate your indoor grow to our China Yunnan genetics.
How did the grow finish ? Do you have more updates, especially in flowering ?

 

[dubi]

Hola.
Thanks @Common Sense
@Cactus Squatter She's my first KC, the smell is nice and I'm glad I let her go. Her she is now

She went through some heatwaves and partly way to hot night temps in the shed where I am doing light deprivation. So the other day after a tropical night many Trichs went brown and the leaves tips went crispy. I know I should harvest but I love to look at her, she is prettier every day. If the effect is good, KC will be in my garden often I guess!

Grüüüße

Hola @regentag the light dep has worked wonderfully well done! She got deep black colors even flowering during July and August. Hope you start enjoying her soon, please keep us updated with a smoke report

 

[dubi]

I don't think I've had a better high in a plant flowering for only 7-8 weeks.

Thanks a lot @gedLang for sharing pics of the harvested buds and finishing plants of your Kali China grow Excellent grow, despite the summer temps, plants look close to their potential in yield.

Main goal with Kali China was to breed a very fast flowering hashplant shaped line, of amazing clomplex terpene profiles, always with loud incense, and prime quality effects with also a sativa side.
Yield was not a priority in the development of this strain.

 

[dubi]

2 month cure smoke report of KC x Outback Haze and KC x Oldschool Haze both from Ace Seeds R&D.

	KC x Outback Haze​	KC x Oldschool Haze​
Aroma	Woody, savory, leathery, livery, incensy, citric, limy, minty	Woody, flowery, savory, incense, grassy, light citrus
Effect	Uplifting, Euphoric, Glowing, Potent, Positive	Trippy, Active, Euphoric, Oldschool/Nostalgic, Positive, almost all in head effects
Other notes	lower yielding but better bag appeal and better flavors	almost 2x yielder

My first impressions on KC x Outback Haze was whoaaaa!!! This is like KC on steroids, with slightly different terps but definitely more potent. Something in the progeny connected for this enhanced experience.

My first impressions on KC x Oldschool Haze, was is this stuff trippy? Cause I'm trippin Very warm, nostalgic, almost no body, oldschool type of high.

Both stands on its own and are equally good. Both will be grown again.

Now I want to try pure Outback haze & Oldschool haze, and I think they both would be a good pair for Panama.

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Thanks a lot @Tranquilidade for the short positive smoke report on these two new Kali China hybrids crossed with new sativas. We have finished the grow tests for both, and I'm starting the smoke tests now. They still need a longer cure, but when I first tried these 2 new ones, i also said wow

The Outback x Kali China is very Outback Thai dominant and her Thai traits: a totally classic Thai terp profile (which I've previously found in other pure Thais, but not with this potency or quality): fresh lemon, woody, floral, and just hints (depending on the female) of musky incense from Kali China. The high is really potent, with super high vibrations, electric, expansive, non-ceiling, motivating "jump from your seat" first-class Thai effect.

The Old School Haze x Kali China, as expected, has tons of incense and mango goodness, with hash and incense coming from both parents, along with some cherry floral incense. It provides a very clear, cerebral, expansive, warm, and calm Colombian sativa x indica effect, although it’s not as energetic or high in vibrations as the Outback cross.

The good news is that Karel (the person who shared both the Outback and Old School Haze with me) gave me permission to release seeds commercially with her. So next year, for our 20th anniversary, there will be a small release of Outback x Kali China feminized seeds (hopefully a bigger one after that).

I'm very excited to start including the Outback into new sativa projects!

By the way, the Outback is called Outback Haze, but it should be renamed to Outback Thai since, as far as I've studied her, she has zero Haze Colombian traits; she is all Thai, and a really good one.

 

[Common Sense]

Lovely trichomes, colors and outdoor hashplant attitude @Common Sense
Is she a new girl from seed or a clone from previous indoor run ?
Hope she is doing good and close to finish as we speaking!

Glad to know you are already enjoying with the qualities of your indoor Kali China harvest

She was an absolute joy to grow @dubi, very easy both indoors and outdoors. The outdoor plant was a clone, taken on April 29th when the indoors plant from seed was already well into (33d) flowering. She had (and needed) a lot of time to reveg, first indoors in a small room with natural daylight and an additional small lamp, then outdoors. I topped 3 of her branches early, so she grew to a very nice plant with 11 fairly equal branches in 15L soil, about 95 cm total height. I had to feed her more than expected, probably because all the rain flushed the soil several times.
I had to harvest her on Oct. 1st, on day 45 since first pistils appeared. This is at 48°N. I'd say she was ripe enough and within the harvest window, judging from trichomes and terpenes, which were at peak. She could have gone longer for sure, but the weather has been absolutely miserable all September and the outlook for the next 2 weeks was even worse. But it was very encouraging to see how well she handled the windy, cold and wet weather. I figure if she could be brought to ripeness under these exceptionally bad conditions this year, I have the option of a lot more genetics on my balcony for the next years. But eventually, when I saw small spots of powdery mildew for the second time, I decided to harvest. Yield was high for a Kali China plant, I now have 11 sticks of buds drying. I didn't even harvest the whole plant as that is more than I can keep and need anyway.

Here are a couple of quick shots right before harvest

 

[moofingaround]

Hi @dubi, this is the state of my Kali China. I will have to harvest in 2 or 3 days due to weather. I hope it can bulk and mature a bit more. It has gone through 12mm of rain in one day + cold nights with just tiny pins of mold. The smell is complexifying.

Hi @moofingaround and @Green Zenit you got very similar looking phenos: vigorous, purple stems, long sativa branches, guess it's the 21 line (21#16 x 21#4). How are they doing nowadays ?

 

[toltschok]

This beautiful Lady was felled today, ex Hurricane Kirk is on the way and I think they are fully ripened.They smell wonderful. Thank you for this beautiful Cross, Dubi.

 

[Green Zenit]

Thanks for the insight @dubi Kalichina has been holding on like a true champ!! And seeing all this beautiful pictures of my fellow brothers I am hopeful it will finish, she just had rain practically 80% of the days since flowering!! And cold cold temperatures going down to 1-2 C . At night, really really a champion!! I am at 48N and the buds are wispy of course because of the awful conditions but I think this has helped her not to rot in the rain. I will upload a few pics from yesterday and if she manages to survive this week of full rain and storms maybe the next one is supposed to be dry for a bit of a finish at the last week of October, lets see!! Fingers crossed . Good harvest everyone!!

 

[Sensistar42]

Thanks for the insight @dubi Kalichina has been holding on like a true champ!! And seeing all this beautiful pictures of my fellow brothers I am hopeful it will finish, she just had rain practically 80% of the days since flowering!! And cold cold temperatures going down to 1-2 C . At night, really really a champion!! I am at 48N and the buds are wispy of course because of the awful conditions but I think this has helped her not to rot in the rain. I will upload a few pics from yesterday and if she manages to survive this week of full rain and storms maybe the next one is supposed to be dry for a bit of a finish at the last week of October, lets see!! Fingers crossed . Good harvest everyone!! View attachment 19081462 View attachment 19081463 View attachment 19081465

Beautiful!