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Humboldt Bush Master
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purrpullkush
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I have a big ass bottle of bushmaster sitting right here but it will continue to sit here because I am scared of the horns!!!
Usually from my experience with SB, the horns got bad when you over did it.
payn4school
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First off I went out and bought the bushmaster, gravity, and purple maxx and tried them all on one my aero setups.
I ended up with the worst yield I have ever had. I burned the shit out of everything. You better listen to the instructrions when it says lower the nute strength by a third and raise hid's! I imagine an aeroponics setup is less forgiving though.
Anyways the bushmaster turned my stretchyest jack herer into a tight compact plant. I didnt even recognize it as a matter of fact. I kept thinking that the name tags had gotten switched some how, but there was no mistaking the jack bud. Go light on the dose and not long 3 days at most i would suggest.
The gravity doesnt seem to be anything more than a carb product, I have not noticed any increase in density from its use.
Purple max will burn the shit out of the plants too and I have yet to see any signifigant increase in trichs, but it did turn the stems purple! big whoop
So can anyone suggest a working regimen for the gravity and or the purple max?
Also with what nutes and at what strength have you guys found to be optimal for the bush? Any general consensous? Especially for aero, not gonna burn the ladies again!
I ended up with the worst yield I have ever had. I burned the shit out of everything. You better listen to the instructrions when it says lower the nute strength by a third and raise hid's! I imagine an aeroponics setup is less forgiving though.
Anyways the bushmaster turned my stretchyest jack herer into a tight compact plant. I didnt even recognize it as a matter of fact. I kept thinking that the name tags had gotten switched some how, but there was no mistaking the jack bud. Go light on the dose and not long 3 days at most i would suggest.
The gravity doesnt seem to be anything more than a carb product, I have not noticed any increase in density from its use.
Purple max will burn the shit out of the plants too and I have yet to see any signifigant increase in trichs, but it did turn the stems purple! big whoop
So can anyone suggest a working regimen for the gravity and or the purple max?
Also with what nutes and at what strength have you guys found to be optimal for the bush? Any general consensous? Especially for aero, not gonna burn the ladies again!
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i used like a 3rd of a 3rd on the pmaxx and have yet to see any burns. so i did the same thing for my big plants we will see tonight if the pmaxx burned them or not.. but my outdoor crop is looking better and better by the day as in trich production
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I use the bushmaster during veg for like 3 days @ 3ml/gallon and it does fine, but it will give off some rams horn, but no burning. I've used 1ml in the past and it did fine. Its pretty much worked and overworked at right and high dosages, but with nutes, it definately will burn your shit up!
payn4school
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thanks for the help gunnaknow! I just realized I had written down purgatory's recipe right in fron of me last night, this damm memory loss is killing me. I cant remember last night anymore...
I will try that recipe but I am wondering how much they will stretch after those four days. I will have to expirement i guess.
I had 2 bubbleicious that it stopped growth on but then they started grownin again 2 weeks later. in the same tub with the others who were normal. It was weird.
I will try that recipe but I am wondering how much they will stretch after those four days. I will have to expirement i guess.
I had 2 bubbleicious that it stopped growth on but then they started grownin again 2 weeks later. in the same tub with the others who were normal. It was weird.
I am in the middle of my first BM grow and wish I would have found this thread earlier.
I used 4.5ml per gallon, 3 days, followed directions to the letter. My ladies normally finish by 7 weeks, now at this rate they will finish in 3.5 to 4, but much, MUCH smaller and virtually no frost. + side, they didn't stretch a inch, normally these girls double in height during flower...the reason I bought BM in the first place!
I used it with Folitech., could have something to do with it.
I personally wouldn't dose over 2mls, but I realize this is specific to each strain and setup...I wish I had room for side by side comparisons of different doseages. So thanks to you people who are spreading your knowledge around it IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED!
I used 4.5ml per gallon, 3 days, followed directions to the letter. My ladies normally finish by 7 weeks, now at this rate they will finish in 3.5 to 4, but much, MUCH smaller and virtually no frost. + side, they didn't stretch a inch, normally these girls double in height during flower...the reason I bought BM in the first place!
I used it with Folitech., could have something to do with it.
I personally wouldn't dose over 2mls, but I realize this is specific to each strain and setup...I wish I had room for side by side comparisons of different doseages. So thanks to you people who are spreading your knowledge around it IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED!
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bushmastered my powerplant and the product worked great, even hit my non stretchy medicineman and bam all vert. growth stopped, instant flowering, also ran it way less than whats suggested, now gravity is also great made the nugs harder, not sure how much but there was a noticeable different, but now my man problem is i'm doing bio style(mediumless, biosac with bioballs), i pumped out the bio water and then just use str8 water and gravity...has anyone else use gravity with biobucket???
bushmastered my powerplant and the product worked great, even hit my non stretchy medicineman and bam all vert. growth stopped, instant flowering, also ran it way less than whats suggested, now gravity is also great made the nugs harder, not sure how much but there was a noticeable different, but now my man problem is i'm doing bio style(mediumless, biosac with bioballs), i pumped out the bio water and then just use str8 water and gravity...has anyone else use gravity with biobucket???
As a general consensus what would be the recommended dose to stop growth over night 3 ml?
Reg Dunlop
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Pergatory,
You have me sold as well.If you don't mind me asking a few questions, cuz I'm still a little hesitant due to my experience with superbud,I've seen other growers use SB like a charm but every time I used it I ended up with bud rot towards the end of harvest,since than I just left it alone,but it did wonders at stopping my upward growth which I enjoyed immensley,now if I could reap the rest of the benifits...I've since sold my bottle of SB, but I'm thinking about picking up a bottle of this stuff.If you wouldn't mind,could you post your feeding regime,and nutes/additives you used during your vert grows.It would be much appreicated! Thanks in advance.
Reg,
You have me sold as well.If you don't mind me asking a few questions, cuz I'm still a little hesitant due to my experience with superbud,I've seen other growers use SB like a charm but every time I used it I ended up with bud rot towards the end of harvest,since than I just left it alone,but it did wonders at stopping my upward growth which I enjoyed immensley,now if I could reap the rest of the benifits...I've since sold my bottle of SB, but I'm thinking about picking up a bottle of this stuff.If you wouldn't mind,could you post your feeding regime,and nutes/additives you used during your vert grows.It would be much appreicated! Thanks in advance.
Reg,
Good ventilation is also a must when using these products
Reg Dunlop
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Guanna,
I did use silica, actually now that I think about it I bought when I bought my suerbud, it was dutchmaster silica.Either I didn't use the product properly, or I might of had a problem with my dehumidifier,cuz about a quarter way through my next grow, it crapped out on me.{Must have been the dehumidifier...wink wink}Either way, it scared me away for a while now,but I'm ready to giver a nother try.
I did use silica, actually now that I think about it I bought when I bought my suerbud, it was dutchmaster silica.Either I didn't use the product properly, or I might of had a problem with my dehumidifier,cuz about a quarter way through my next grow, it crapped out on me.{Must have been the dehumidifier...wink wink}Either way, it scared me away for a while now,but I'm ready to giver a nother try.
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Reg Dunlop
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Does anyone know of a supplier for Bushmaster in Canada?
Purgatory
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Hey Reg Dunlop,
I ran into the bud mold situation too a while back, just like GunnaKnow stated you really have to up the dosage of silica. I use close to 8mpg toward the end when cell density is at its peak. The dense buds start to trap transpiration levels; that’s why some people back off the lights.
As for nutes and additives I’ll run through the list first (TriFlex, Sweet, koolbloom or any pk add available, floralicious, hygrozyme, florashield, silicablast, and good old Blackstrap).
After the bush is flushed out, I start at around 1000pm of TriFlex 1base to 2bloom for (WEEK 1) with lots of sweet I couldn't tell you how much because i add it almost on a daily basis. In my experience the extra carbs help out in high density sogs. 5mpg floralicious, 2mpg silicablst and root adds. (WEEK 2) I up to 1200 with more Tflex, 2mpg floralicious, 1mpg silicablast and add more root aditives. (WEEK 3) WATER CHANGE and 1200 with Tflex and an extra 400 with koolbloom for a total of 1600, then 5mpg floralicious, 3mpg silicablast plus root adds, the rest of the week i just top off with tap. (New)(Week 4) no nute add instead 1mpg of GrAvItY and replace the sweet with 2mpg of blackstrap. (Week 5) top off rez with tap, another 400ppm of tflex and 200 of koolbloom normally leaves me at total around 1700 to 1800ppm, then 1mpg of blackstrap, 5mpg floralicious, 8mpg silicablast and no root adds and let it run 3 days into (week 6) and then comes the most pain in the ass part!! FLUSH res with 20mpg of clearex on day 4, again on day 5, and again on day 6 to get all the shit out, sometimes ill let it run a couple days into week 7 depending on quick dry smoke test. Depending on heat and humidity levels, sometimes I throw a couple more water changes in the mix, but that’s pretty much it. It's not an exact science but it works for me.
Sorry if I came across a little cluttered, I might have left out a couple things but just not sure right now, I’ve been killing mass brain cells all day on some insane White Russian
. Anyways, hope this helps and let me know if I left anything out. Goodluck
Purg
I ran into the bud mold situation too a while back, just like GunnaKnow stated you really have to up the dosage of silica. I use close to 8mpg toward the end when cell density is at its peak. The dense buds start to trap transpiration levels; that’s why some people back off the lights.
As for nutes and additives I’ll run through the list first (TriFlex, Sweet, koolbloom or any pk add available, floralicious, hygrozyme, florashield, silicablast, and good old Blackstrap).
After the bush is flushed out, I start at around 1000pm of TriFlex 1base to 2bloom for (WEEK 1) with lots of sweet I couldn't tell you how much because i add it almost on a daily basis. In my experience the extra carbs help out in high density sogs. 5mpg floralicious, 2mpg silicablst and root adds. (WEEK 2) I up to 1200 with more Tflex, 2mpg floralicious, 1mpg silicablast and add more root aditives. (WEEK 3) WATER CHANGE and 1200 with Tflex and an extra 400 with koolbloom for a total of 1600, then 5mpg floralicious, 3mpg silicablast plus root adds, the rest of the week i just top off with tap. (New)(Week 4) no nute add instead 1mpg of GrAvItY and replace the sweet with 2mpg of blackstrap. (Week 5) top off rez with tap, another 400ppm of tflex and 200 of koolbloom normally leaves me at total around 1700 to 1800ppm, then 1mpg of blackstrap, 5mpg floralicious, 8mpg silicablast and no root adds and let it run 3 days into (week 6) and then comes the most pain in the ass part!! FLUSH res with 20mpg of clearex on day 4, again on day 5, and again on day 6 to get all the shit out, sometimes ill let it run a couple days into week 7 depending on quick dry smoke test. Depending on heat and humidity levels, sometimes I throw a couple more water changes in the mix, but that’s pretty much it. It's not an exact science but it works for me.
Sorry if I came across a little cluttered, I might have left out a couple things but just not sure right now, I’ve been killing mass brain cells all day on some insane White Russian
. Anyways, hope this helps and let me know if I left anything out. GoodluckPurg
I believe Green coast hydro carriers it Dunlop
