Humboldt Bush Master

[gunnaknow]

Neptune, I have tried to calm the waters between you two and I think it's best if you let things be now. You have said your piece and so has Gronut. This thread is for people that use Bush Master or are interested in learning more about it. You have made it clear that Bush Master isn't for you, which is fair enough but if that is the case, this thread is not the right place for you. You have made your points and they have been heard and taken on board. Please just let people now get on with their discussions peacefully without them feeling like they have to justify or defend their interests. Thankyou for your support on this matter. It is appreciated. Nice plants by the way.

 

[Guest]

huh?

huh?

I was starting to get worked up a lil bit til I realized what type of person my energy was being wasted on...

Anything these products claim to do, can be done without the additives and a little gardening skills.

What do these products claim to do?

It gets annoying when I take the time to post my experience with BM that someone may find useful.. and then have someone with only an opinion, no experience twist around what I've posted and try and argue about it.... and we all know about opinions and assholes.

1) The pictured marijuana plant looks terrible, as you have said.
2) the pictured buds look terrible.
How am I supposed to make a positive conclusion based on those photos?

No one asked for a positive conclusion... only see the facts. The plants looked ugly, true. I posted them to show others how BM affected my plants. BM does not promise pretty plants.. the contrary really. The buds looked fine as their claims were accurate on that. Everyone who got some of that bud was happy and I had zero negative feedback.. job done. So far in my experience this stuff has done exactly what it claims to do...fact.

halt verical growth, and promote flowering stacking?
-Marijuana plants do this on their own. They do not need help from "science."
My marijuana plants halt vertical growth by the 21st day of bloom, and continue to stack flowersuntil harvest.

Yup.. BM halted verticle growth on day 1, not 21 just as it claims to do. Do I really have to double post this info? I had an issue where I vegged too long as the flower room was not ready for these plants yet. I have a height limit so I dosed em and guess what? the shit did what it said it would do.... 21 days of stretch and I'd have a fire. To tie em over was an option but would require flowering less plants to make room and I'd have less yeild. A $30 or whatever it cost bottle of BM saved me 6-8 ounces...not a bad option.... fact, not opinion.

Nice bud pics by the way... I don't really understand your purpose for posting those. This thread is about bushmaster.

I grow pretty plants too but I post those pics in the proper forum :wink:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=29467

when you are ready to grow for real let me know. I'm happy to help, honestly. I get above average yeilds of fan-fucking-tastic buds..

Okay bro.. I'll hit you up via pm when I'm in the mood for more of your opinions.


Sorry for that Gunnaknow but I don't like my experience and facts being twisted by somone with only an opinion and who has not contributed anything at all to the thread.

 

[somoz]

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[Guest]

I use sea kelp and know it really helps alot, I want to try bushmaster too but need to get liquid karma and humic acid first. I also use a mychorizal and beneficial fungi amendment and also use root grow and bloom stimulators. But I would also like to try HUmboldt's finest gravity and purple maxx also.

when I get them I will do a couple clones with Humboldt's line plus my regular nutrients and another without everything but Humboldt's line of stuff because you know what I like what it says but some have told me to be careful with that stuff so its not priority till I see more evidence first hand.

Thanks for the great input for the positive posts. I appreciate it and all I have to say is Nam-myoho-renge-kyo! THis stuff is expensive but sounds good to me. I like the idea on less stretch more buds.

 

[Chiefsmokingbud]

Gonna have to follow this one.

 

[Guest]

i just grabbed a small bottle of the purple maxx im curious about these products. it was a bit to late for the bm and the gravity but i got the pmaxx just in time to use..

 

[Blatant]

Bullrider Vs. Bushmaster

Bullrider Vs. Bushmaster

How about a lil side by side.
With this one it worked a lil too well. I used it at 4ml strength. Check the difference between the two. From Long Spear Buds to-Clusters of them, Hard as a Rock.
Without



With


As you can see a world of difference.
Stopped vertical growth immediately, Took a week or so off of FLowering, but lacked in the resin department. Same high and taste.

Blatant

 

[Guest]

Thank you for that Blatant, Nam-myoho-renge-kyo! Your an amazing chanting grower!

 

[gunnaknow]

Has anyone tried foliar feeding with Bush Master? Bghydro say that 1ml per gallon is all that you need when foliar feeding. They say that spraying 3 times over a 2 week period is ideal. Not only is 1ml per gallon much lower than the concentrations needed for hydro and soil applications but you also need to apply vastly less solution mixture. A liter of 1ml solution would probably be enough to cover 1 square meter of plants, so three applications uses only about 3ml of BM per meter, per crop. Let's call it 5ml just incase it takes 1.5 liters of solution to spray a square meter fully. A 4 oz bottle would last you forever. The only thing that would concern me about spraying BM is that the chemicals in BM would become airborn in a mist, so wearing some overalls, rubber gloves and a dust mask might be advisable. Ideally done outdoors aswel.

 

[Purgatory]

another side by side
these sensi stars were done vert with the same nute reg

Before BM. 1 wk veg, 8 wk bloom


With BM, 2 week veg, 6 wk bloom

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I all ready do trim up but i guess i didn't think about it like that. I might have to include a couple veg upgrades into the next run. I'll let you know how that works out. Thanx gunnaknow

 

[Guest]

Purg, You are doing this site a GREAT service! How did the dry wieghts compare? You are a master gardener!

As you can see I need this stuff!!

 

[Guest]

yeah blatant and purg. what was the total difference in wieght??? did they yeild the same or did non bm yeild more or less???

 

[Purgatory]

Without BM around .7 to .8 gpw dried
With BM 1.2 gpw dried
These are vert garden figures, I still haven't dialed it in on flat gardens yet but my goal is to get 1 gpw on a flat sog

 

[Chiefsmokingbud]

Well the pics look promising, thanks for sharing guys. Just ordered some and i hope it doesn't disappoint me like Superbud did. ($120 mistake)

 

[Blatant]

Bush Baby!

Bush Baby!

I don't weight my Goods off the Vine. But if you go by the Jars I fill. I filled up a couple extra jars. Maybe about an ounce or two more. You just have to veg longer to get those results. It stops growth immediatly at higher doses. If a Plant is a Yielder it will still yield big. Heres some more With Without Shots.

Mountain Jam (Without)


Mountain Jam (With)


Here's a couple instances of a lil too hot a dose. You really hardly need any. The leaves will curl up big time. They also stay that way to some degree.


Blatant

 

[Chiefsmokingbud]

For those interested, you can also find maxicrop at most hydro places (for kelp). It's fairly cheap and good stuff. I am confused though about the suggestion from BM to use kelp. Along with other things kelp does, it stimulates stretch big time.

 

[gunnaknow]

Without BM around .7 to .8 gpw dried
With BM 1.2 gpw dried
These are vert garden figures, I still haven't dialed it in on flat gardens yet but my goal is to get 1 gpw on a flat sog

If you turn the measurement into gpw per month, the yield increase is even more because BM knocks a week off of the plants' lives.

Without BM: 0.333-0.381 gpw per month

With BM: 0.642 gpw per month

That's a 68.5 - 92.8 Percent increase!

If you add a week back to the BM batch in order to compare to the untreated batch, the harvest is equivalent to 1.35 gpw.

 

[kokua]

So would you recommend to a friend B? Are you going to continue to use the BM with all your plants? Are there any negative effects you notice(other than decreased resin production)?

 

[Blatant]

Well, ya Kook. I would'nt use it for all my plants as I always have something new in the Garden and wanna see how they perform without gettin Geeked. Maybe I'll pick up a Haze somewhere and see if I can knockoff the Flowering time and retain the quality.

I think that when you use it consistently and tweak it accordingly there will be a medium where the Resin and Growth equal each other and still produce. I'm gonna do one last test to see about something yield wise when it comes to stretchy plants with weak stems. I have some Kushes & Trainwreck I wanna try it with.

I was able to find the Bushmaster in a 4oz. bottle for 20$. And since its used so sparingly I would pick that up for some experimenting. I havn't reached my final verdict on this but I'm leaning towards a good review. As for negative effects beside resin production? Not really. Mountain Jam was just as Tastey and Still ripped me up.

Blatant

 

[kokua]

You are the man! I might grab a bottle and give a go, I'll let you know if I do.