keen to see and hear how those turn out ,
and yes i think some dont realize growing cannabis indoors was due to prohibition ,
once that is over , indoor isnt as needed , except for the odd folks with a climate that doesnt allow outdoor growing ...
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and yes i think some dont realize growing cannabis indoors was due to prohibition ,
once that is over , indoor isnt as needed , except for the odd folks with a climate that doesnt allow outdoor growing ...
yes, I sure know about living in a climate where you’re bound to indoor growing for both those reasons and I have seen a glimpse of the tropical environment under the sun as well. I sure wouldn’t chose to grow indoors if I have the tropics outdoors but it too has its challenges which I have experienced these past years lol.
I guess in the future if it’s totally legal it will be calculating the environmental effect of the electricity used to run a tropical indoor room and the diesel/fuel expense running fields of sun grown ganja.
Is there great Southeast Asian ganja being grown under the sun in the different regions still, definitely. Is every bach of ganja great, hell no. Can you grow Southeast Asian indoors, sure you can, is it ”better” to grow Southeast Asian types indoors??
I think that in a perfect world tropical cannabis would be grown under the sun, field scale harvested by tractor or preferably a more environmental friendly alternative if possible. Then it would be exported to every country just like tea, coffee or wine to name a few products that aren’t grown indoors in say northern Europe but imported from countries where it grows better. Wine is a perfect example where they put enormous importance on where the grape was grown. The same grape (the same actual clone) grown in Southern France and Northern California won’t produce the same wine. Terroir is a factor in wine-grape growing and it can also be a factor for other crops.
yes just as it once was in what is known as the "hot/sweet spots" ,
after all the footprint would be miles less than trying to replicate a tropical indoor environment,
that never really does the job properly ,
and the product itself so much cheaper while also being better for the consumer and the planet ,
and of course higher quality , better quality high and taste , longer lasting high ...
whats not to like about that >>??
nice comparison with the wine ,
i mean who grows papaya where you live indoors , and mango etc,
i wonder why not ,, hehe ..
i cant even grow durian here due to the altitude ,
latitude is fine ,
thankfully i dont eat them ,, lol ...
after all the footprint would be miles less than trying to replicate a tropical indoor environment,
that never really does the job properly ,
and the product itself so much cheaper while also being better for the consumer and the planet ,
and of course higher quality , better quality high and taste , longer lasting high ...
whats not to like about that >>??
nice comparison with the wine ,
i mean who grows papaya where you live indoors , and mango etc,
i wonder why not ,, hehe ..
i cant even grow durian here due to the altitude ,
latitude is fine ,
thankfully i dont eat them ,, lol ...
exactly, I wouldn’t grow a pineapple plant indoors but I love the flavor of sun grown pineapple in Thailand, fruits are a perfect example.
the durian trees are not easy to grow either and they take years before they give any fruits. I don’t like the fruit but most people in the south just love it. Maybe the thais should focus on breeding a durian roadkill skunk now that it’s legal, lol, that stink would be some nasty weed.
Those plants are below the 10th north, I know they can’t grow a lot of the fruits we grow down south up in the north but they can grow strawberries and apples, not very well but they can, down south even tomatoes are hard to grow. But papaya, mango, pineapple, rambutan, durian and all the other lovely and stinky fruits thrive.
Nexus7
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The problems with outdoors is you're at the mercy of mother nature. Sometimes you get a good grow season sometime you don't.
The problem normally comes right at the end for me and seems like a few other growers too.
You just can't get it to ripen perfectly every time. And lets face it the last 2-3 weeks is where all the magic happens imho.
The problem normally comes right at the end for me and seems like a few other growers too.
You just can't get it to ripen perfectly every time. And lets face it the last 2-3 weeks is where all the magic happens imho.
@hempy
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Its all about genetics and no one said indoors is better than out doors so who are you trying to convince here your self's or the rest of us ?
On a large part of the east coast here the last 3 or more years has been a complete disaster for out door grows from bush fire to floods.
I hate to brake it to you but tropical weather dose not automatically mean your going to grow good cannabis.
Indoor growing has enabled people to grow stealthy and also grow any variety they like in any environment.
Andy lived in Thailand and he grew indoors and i bet his weed was a hell of a lot better than most of what was being grown out doors.
On a large part of the east coast here the last 3 or more years has been a complete disaster for out door grows from bush fire to floods.
I hate to brake it to you but tropical weather dose not automatically mean your going to grow good cannabis.
Indoor growing has enabled people to grow stealthy and also grow any variety they like in any environment.
Andy lived in Thailand and he grew indoors and i bet his weed was a hell of a lot better than most of what was being grown out doors.
Agreed 100%.. Our environment has a major impact on how our plants express themselves. Good genetics doesn't mean much if the environment inhibits their best expressions. Even with good genetics, not every seed will produce a good plant.
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exactly
well of course there are other factors to consider,
however as i and others have been trying to say ,
the best representation of something that hails from the tropics ,
will be also grown there , the indoor stuff wont be as good ,
its just what folks have had to resort too since prohibition ...
andy grew indoors because he had too ,
not because he wanted too ,
and he didnt grow thai weed indoor ,
i knew andy pretty well hempy and visited him in thailand on several occasions ,
i know what he did and why ...
i dont need convincing , nor do others that have enough experience to have seen ,
how does the weather where you live have anything to do with where they used to grow cannabis in thailand?
i realize you have little experience with tropical weather , climate and location ,
but the great benefit is its generally quite predictable ,
the weather where the bulk of the thai stick weed was grown is pretty much the same year in year out ,
there is a monsoon , it stops at roughly the same time each year , give or take a week or two ,
then its sunny/hot and dry into the flowering and the harvest , it remains dry and hot until the storms begin and then into the monsoon again , but generally up to 8 or 9 months of the year , u can be pretty sure of hot and dry weather ,
it actually gets quite arid in those places as one could imagine with no rain all those months and hot days ,
but cannabis likes that , as long as its fed enough water ...
does growing indoors assure you a perfect crop every time ?
or are there also some hurdles to overcome , like watering correctly,
not overheating, using the correct fertilizers, having the right lighting etc ,
just the same as it would be outdoor ??
@hempy
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Going by your logic Wally every thing grown in the tropics will be a world better and that is just not reality.
Andy grew indoors for the same reason most do and that dose not mean their end product is better or worse than well out door grown cannabis.
Genetics and genetics alone determine that and if the plant is grown well and allowed to mature correctly it dose not matter were its grow Sam has said just that.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Thai has been grown here for a lot longer than you or me have been around and no i have not grown in the tropics here but i have been a lot further north than were you live and it gets a lot hotter here than were you are in summer.
Years ago i put this argument to a real test i grew 8 different clones indoors and grew the same 8 different clones out doors hours North of me the results were interesting.
Each clone Indoors and out were smoked the potency was the same duration of high was the same but there were differences in the look and taste.
The indoor grown lot tasted better had more resin better bag appeal and less leaf in the flowers.
So no out door grown cannabis dose not smoke better or dose it have more potency to that of well grown versions of its self out door's.
It smokes the same like i keep saying its genetics full stop.
i didnt say that at all ,
i said things from the tropics ,, tend to grow better in the tropics ,
that is logical and i dont know where you are getting that other stuff from ,
as has been said earlier that u didnt seem to catch , things like papaya ,
banana , pineapple , from the tropics , also grow better in the tropics ,
there should be no debate about this , its fact ...
you have also ignored what hammer said too ,
please read all comments before coming up with the wrong conclusion ,
you might get to avoid it , take those blinkers off mate and open your eyes please ,
also sam didnt say what you are referring too , as i replied to you about on that thread ,
of course genetics play a large role on the final product ,
but so does climate as pointed out by hammer ..
i said things from the tropics ,, tend to grow better in the tropics ,
that is logical and i dont know where you are getting that other stuff from ,
as has been said earlier that u didnt seem to catch , things like papaya ,
banana , pineapple , from the tropics , also grow better in the tropics ,
there should be no debate about this , its fact ...
you have also ignored what hammer said too ,
please read all comments before coming up with the wrong conclusion ,
you might get to avoid it , take those blinkers off mate and open your eyes please ,
also sam didnt say what you are referring too , as i replied to you about on that thread ,
of course genetics play a large role on the final product ,
but so does climate as pointed out by hammer ..
I think it's mainly genetics, perhaps 85% or so if I had to guess. Genetics is the potential and without that you have nothing. Still, nothing beats outdoor sativa's grown where they should.
I pride myself on growing good sativa's indoors, but there's no doubt they would definitely be better outdoors in their original environment.
I pride myself on growing good sativa's indoors, but there's no doubt they would definitely be better outdoors in their original environment.
its not about how hot it gets mate ,
you are so ignorant its not even funny ,
you dont see the bigger picture ,
your test is nothing close to scientific ,
you have not grown in the tropics ,
and have no idea ,
just because u went north once ,
doesnt give u any clue on how things are here , its quite obvious in your replies and your reasoning , logic ,
im not sure you even know where i live and how far north port douglas is of me ,
this conversation is clearly a waste of time with you ,
i will ignore any more of your silly , uneducated responses ...
wow exactly the same as 1 memory from one variety from 50 years back , hahaha ..
we might as well end the debate then yesum ,
this case is closed by the sounds of it ,, hahahahahaha ...
we might as well end the debate then yesum ,
this case is closed by the sounds of it ,, hahahahahaha ...
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Go listen to what Sam has said a few times Wally he enplanes it perfectly.
Its all in the Genetics and allowing the plants to fully mature not were it is grown.
California is a long way away from the tropics and yet just like here they grew and still grow some world class cannabis as dose many other places.
Its all in the Genetics and allowing the plants to fully mature not were it is grown.
California is a long way away from the tropics and yet just like here they grew and still grow some world class cannabis as dose many other places.
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