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A Heads Up on the 78 Thia

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yesum

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^^ Hammered Head got real mad at me on political matters. He mentioned I must be a jailhouse punk... went off on a emotional trip, various insults. Ignore this douche.

As said, I replicated a high from a landrace using LED and the original was grown in Michoacan in the mountains. I think most strains could give close or identical effects, compared to the original growing area.

The idea is that not all is lost if you are growing inside, or even outside if you would light dep and finish them in the middle of summer.
 

Smoke_A_Lot

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We're all watching this thread like...
 

@hempy

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Its very common for a troll to blame there target Hammer.

Your commencement

Finding a good quality Thai plant is the goal. Most seeds grown will not be worth keeping. We don't have the space to grow the high numbers needed to find these quality plants.

That tells me you have no experience with any quality Thai or other land race / heirloom variety's.

How about you just stop trolling me and stop making up excuses to validate bad behavior.

If you dont agree say it and move on.
 

Donald Mallard

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^^ Hammered Head got real mad at me on political matters. He mentioned I must be a jailhouse punk... went off on a emotional trip, various insults. Ignore this douche.

As said, I replicated a high from a landrace using LED and the original was grown in Michoacan in the mountains. I think most strains could give close or identical effects, compared to the original growing area.

The idea is that not all is lost if you are growing inside, or even outside if you would light dep and finish them in the middle of summer.
yesum
lets get this right ,
you apparently replicated a high , that is in your memory from over 50 years ago ,
and you say its identical,,
i mean come on man ,, similar perhaps , but u say identical ,
on a 50 year old memory ,,
i dunno about the other guys , but im calling this bs...

you wont be getting identical to a tropical landrace grown outdoor under that sun ,
well unless you use an old 50 year memory of course ... lol ...
for all the guys like yourself that claim this sort of stuff ,
there is 10 others saying bs ...
 

Donald Mallard

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Its very common for a troll to blame there target Hammer.



That tells me you have no experience with any quality Thai or other land race / heirloom variety's.

How about you just stop trolling me and stop making up excuses to validate bad behavior.

If you dont agree say it and move on.
says the guy who does one grow once every now and then , but is somehow an expert grower ,
vs a guy like hammer who grows continually and tries all manner of stuff ,
admits when he messes up , and makes improvements and then gets it right ,

he has not been trolling you at all ,
you are watched by all the mods hempy ,
because of your poor behavoir, and the fact you have behaved like this for over 20 years in many of our memories,
, id be careful if i were you buddy ,
the irony in the last sentence there is just laughable mate ...
 

Raho

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I was contacted and told that some are claiming to have my Thai and for a set price they will give you the contact info to the person selling the seed.


No one has the 78 Thai and the only person to get it was Neville who was instructed to not share it unless it was hybridized and even then not to set people.



So if any ones trying to sell you my Thai they dont have it and i can guarantee you that.
Message delivered El Hempo.
  • Nobody has your Thai but you.
  • Except as hybrids.
  • But those hybrids shouldn't have been shared with people you didn't like.
Thanks for the public service announcement.

Time to lock this shitshow of a thread?
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
What i do with my genetics has nothing to do with the likes of you El Raho and no one but the people with the Outback Haze have a hybrid of my Thai.

I would appreciate it if you stayed out of matters that dont involve you.
 

Piff_cat

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^^ Hammered Head got real mad at me on political matters. He mentioned I must be a jailhouse punk... went off on a emotional trip, various insults. Ignore this douche.

As said, I replicated a high from a landrace using LED and the original was grown in Michoacan in the mountains. I think most strains could give close or identical effects, compared to the original growing area.

The idea is that not all is lost if you are growing inside, or even outside if you would light dep and finish them in the middle of summer.
this is a great point. adding to that there are 2 really good lights for

this job. sulfur plasma and 14k metal halide with low iron glASS. the sulfur plasma is nearly identical in cri to sunlight and i think they may be able to adjust differing ratios depending what your trying to replicate. the metal halides are advertised as "finishing bulbs" but i plant to use them to simulate different spectrum of day periods. using the 14 mh for a 4 to 6 hour block in the middle of bloom lights on. a big one is altitude as its been shown to be biggest driver of diversity and mutation.adaption in cannabis. i think you could recreate high altitude by manipulation of the entrance and exhaust fans for certain barometric pressure. then you could use an indoor co2 burner which will deplete some oxygen this puts less presure on the plant and increases photosynthesis as well.

this plasma is over priced but the science behind it is crazy
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Thighland

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it can be grown well outdoor there ,
there is just limited information on how to do it ,

i know because i had to learn myself , make the right seed ,
and find what worked and when ,
the dry season is the time to take advantage of those fatter and faster hybrid varieties ,
yield will be reduced from growing with longer days of course ,
but i think we could still average out a reasonable amount given the warmth compared to where i have learned to do it.

i believe we could get out 2 crops in the 8 months of dry at least ,
with some tweaking , maybe we could do a little better even ,
generally from seed , hybrids will take up to 16 weeks , some a little faster ,
im actually considering moving to do this in fact ,
i couldnt think of a more worthwhile persuit ....
Yes, I'm sure the taste could be improved, as I've had outdoor that is fine.

Now daylight is around 11.5 hrs. If the dry season is 6 months and hybrids can flower in two, then if they spend their first month under 18 hr lights, then move them outside for 2 months of flowering. This would allow 3 harvest through the dry season. If plants were veged during the rains, with lights to extend photo period, then they could give a good yield. It's all theory, but there's fun to be had trying.

It's definetely doable, as seen in this Qld educational vdo, I'm surprised the plants can cope in that style of GH https://mypolice.qld.gov.au/news/20...h-234-5-million-shut-down-north-coast-region/
 

Donald Mallard

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Yes, I'm sure the taste could be improved, as I've had outdoor that is fine.

Now daylight is around 11.5 hrs. If the dry season is 6 months and hybrids can flower in two, then if they spend their first month under 18 hr lights, then move them outside for 2 months of flowering. This would allow 3 harvest through the dry season. If plants were veged during the rains, with lights to extend photo period, then they could give a good yield. It's all theory, but there's fun to be had trying.

It's definetely doable, as seen in this Qld educational vdo, I'm surprised the plants can cope in that style of GH https://mypolice.qld.gov.au/news/20...h-234-5-million-shut-down-north-coast-region/
yes sometimes chemical fertilizers can give off a crappy leafy taste in the cannabis grown with them ..

your 100% correct with the idea of up to 3 harvests using lights to extend the hours ,
i only calculated with no use of lights , which is also doable ,
but to supply specific cannabis that requires cuttings to be used ,
some day lengthening would be required ,
then you could pump out cuttings for up to 10 months of the year ...

that style of green house in the video was what i had in mind ,
but also direct in the ground can work fine with cuttings , i did it for a few years at my house previously ...
 

yesum

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yesum
lets get this right ,
you apparently replicated a high , that is in your memory from over 50 years ago ,
and you say its identical,,
i mean come on man ,, similar perhaps , but u say identical ,
on a 50 year old memory ,,
i dunno about the other guys , but im calling this bs...

you wont be getting identical to a tropical landrace grown outdoor under that sun ,
well unless you use an old 50 year memory of course ... lol ...
for all the guys like yourself that claim this sort of stuff ,
there is 10 others saying bs ...
I bought 3 lids/oz of it and sold a half ounce. I smoked the rest and shared some while smoking. I smoked pinners at that time and must have gotten high close to 100 times off it. I could get 30 pinners out of a lid easy, and I smoked 1 at a time, per day. The highs with it varied some even then, if I had not smoked for a while, then it was more intense, set and setting etc. All the different effects I had then, I got with my homegrown.

I do not have a vague memory of that pot, it stands out because of the amount I smoked over a long time. I never had that amount of one strain/batch before or after. You seem to think I am bragging or perhaps fuzzy in my memory. I am stating fact. Hempy thinks it is all genetics and I think most likely 90% is genetics, PROVIDED you can get intense light on the buds.

You can not put a strain that received super strong sun into a weak light/blurple LED/ hps yellowish situation and expect to do great. I have my LED's within 5 inches or closer to the tops of the plants, sometimes so close a plant touches the lights. High Kelvin or white light, similar to what they get close to the equator. I also bend the plants over so they are no taller than 18 inches. All the buds get good light intensity.
 
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