A Heads Up on the 78 Thia

[@hempy]

They still have thai in Thailand, they always had it just have to know where and how to find it. Just because there’s no more ”Thai stick” imports to ”western” countries doesn’t mean there’s no more good thai weed. All about perspective. Ace and RSC both have thai seeds that are sold pretty openly and easy to get if going out finding your own isn’t on the menu. Problem’s always been people have not been able to grow them (equatorials) properly in general. I know first hand there’s still really good cannabis grown in the tropics where they belong.

Didn't you claim its all coming in from Loas not that long ago and i proved it was also still being grown in good numbers with in Thailand only a few months back ?.

Yes it is still with in Thailand and has been regardless of the CIA and DEA efforts to eradicate it.

Andy (RIP) was a mod here that lived in Thailand he told me finding the good old school Thai was not easy.

When i posted about my friend collecting the Thai line Golden Buddha in 1986 what was it you said lol.

 

[Happy Times]

I plan on making a special cross with it to a very old red Colombian a haze like line and i will pass that out for free to some who can then do the same in the future.

that sounds like a neat project

 

[Stocktont]

Didn't you claim its all coming in from Loas not that long ago and i proved it was also still being grown in good numbers with in Thailand only a few months back ?.

Yes it is still with in Thailand and has been regardless of the CIA and DEA efforts to eradicate it.

Andy (RIP) was a mod here that lived in Thailand he told me finding the good old school Thai was not easy.

When i posted about my friend collecting the Thai line Golden Buddha in 1986 what was it you said lol.

wasn't talking to you so go right ahead and mix things up like you do, lol, yea what was it I said? You sure don't seem to know just like you sure don't seem to know much else. Whatever dude

 

[Limeygreen]

I plan on making a special cross with it to a very old red Colombian a haze like line and i will pass that out for free to some who can then do the same in the future.

Looking forward to it

 

[Nannymouse]

So...it was Andy that gave you the thai? Just curious.

 

[Greatdalas]

I plan on making a special cross with it to a very old red Colombian a haze like line and i will pass that out for free to some who can then do the same in the future.

These could be fire

 

[@hempy]

So...it was Andy that gave you the thai? Just curious.

No i was planning on sending Andy the Thai to pass out to Thai farmers i got this Thai around 20 years ago from a guy.

 

[Mustafunk]

No one has the 78 Thai and the only person to get it was Neville who was instructed to not share it unless it was hybridized and even then not to set people.

This season I'm growing some Thai'78 x Swiss Thai F1 that Nevil sent years ago, most seeds didn't germinate but 3 plants made it. They are looking beautiful lime green now, soon they will be transplanted into bigger pots:

The classic Thai'79 is alive and well too, one of 20Thai's favourite if I remember well. A good friend from the Vibes Collective recently made the P3 generation with some P2 seeds I produced years ago and was imoressed by the stink and resin production, here a leaf from an old grow showing an interesting mutation:

A three-way oldschool thai hybrid comes to mind, who digs?

Surely there are plenty legit and decent modern Thais, just like Oaxacans, Colombians, Congolese and so on. But there's something about the vintage genetics you can't really deny. The vigor and raw character is unique. May yield just a bunch of string buds and average potency, but the high quality is usually outstanding, no broad leaf/hashplant contamination whatsoever like most modern genetics. Connoisseur grade for sure. Prosecution probably lead to poor farming techniques apart from genetic erosion caused by hybridization and past DEA eradication operations in most ganja producing countries during the 70s golden era.

 

[romanoweed]

i dont like to use Phylos as proove, cause we dont know if this is suited for Genetic Mapping.

But it became interesting lately. The Landraces seem to cluster infact very separate to anything Else.


David Wattson has alot Landraces listed there, i imagine predominantly old genetics. Around 60 percent of his Landraces showed as "pure Landraces" . 40 Percent had a little "Skunk" or "Hemp" in it.

So, for SE Asia part of his Samples most showed pure/or had a bit of "Hemp" in it.
But he had one Sample from Vietnam, 1995 Vietnamese. So, probbly his most modern Sample.. It showed alot "Skunk" in it. And i didnt spot much "skunk" from David Wattsons other SE Asain Samples, only Hemp.

So, this points to infact alot hybridisation happening after the 70s. HOWEVER, we dont know if Phylos is suited for genetic Analysis, so lets agree it doesent mean anything concreete. Doesent mean anything.

Also there was lately a short study for Indian Landraces from Ernest Small i beleve. They compared old Samples vs modern Samples. They prooved that southern Indian was Genetically A LOT more similar to north Indian in the modern Sample. hybridisized..

So, overall i think there is alot Hybridisation happening, and i beleve in a very random Way. Random Genetics entering Contries, whera in the 70s ther was also some Hybridisation at Times. Questionable is if also back then a slight Breeze of forgein Genetics was positive or negative. I mean probably to a Degree its benefitial.. who knows.

However, given the smokereports from todays Landraces vs old, it becomes very obvious that today, something is different.

(also consider that phylos uses Tags like "Landrace" "Skunk" "Hemp" , but those NAMES dont mean necesarly what it is. Those are Clouds determined by an algorythm to differ between DIFFERENT things. Those Things are then vaguely named by what it could mean ". So, it just shows something DIFFERENT. So, i conclude simply that something different is inside a Sample showing as mostly "Landrace", than something showing as "Landrace" plus "skunk" ).

Well, scientists say, that inbreeding is a crutial Part of a good Landrace.

 

[romanoweed]

clearheaded If youre interested in preserving a Strain, there is a thai68, and thai78 that you can buy.

 

[RoyalFlush]

First, shit on hempy
Second, desire his gear...

This basically sums up hempy's haters.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Didn't you claim its all coming in from Loas not that long ago and i proved it was also still being grown in good numbers with in Thailand only a few months back ?.

Yes it is still with in Thailand and has been regardless of the CIA and DEA efforts to eradicate it.

Andy (RIP) was a mod here that lived in Thailand he told me finding the good old school Thai was not easy.

When i posted about my friend collecting the Thai line Golden Buddha in 1986 what was it you said lol.

most of it does come from laos hempy ,
thailand does not grow much pot to sell ,
there are some farms now that are mostly for medicinal pot etc ,
you can even get tours of them ,
some grow shops are opening in places like buriram in the north east ,
(a friend of mine has opened one)
so far any legal stuff is just medicinal
but hopes are it wont be long before recreational pot can be grown...

i visited andy a few times and saw what he was toking ,
and he was mostly only interested in growing western weed as it is popular among the westerners ,
the stuff he had both times i saw him was laos brick ,
its by far the most common pot that can be found ...

its true as you say there are small pockets where folks grow some plants ,
and there are seeds that trace back to the original stuff before the eradication program ,
but none of that stuff is sold or available commercially in general ,
you would be lucky to get hold of any if you were a fresh arrival and without some good contacts ...

 

[@hempy]

This season I'm growing some Thai'78 x Swiss Thai F1 that Nevil sent years ago, most seeds didn't germinate but 3 plants made it. They are looking beautiful lime green now, soon they will be transplanted into bigger pots:

The classic Thai'79 is alive and well too, one of 20Thai's favourite if I remember well. A good friend from the Vibes Collective recently made the P3 generation with some P2 seeds I produced years ago and was imoressed by the stink and resin production, here a leaf from an old grow showing an interesting mutation:

A three-way oldschool thai hybrid comes to mind, who digs?

Surely there are plenty legit and decent modern Thais, just like Oaxacans, Colombians, Congolese and so on. But there's something about the vintage genetics you can't really deny. The vigor and raw character is unique. May yield just a bunch of string buds and average potency, but the high quality is usually outstanding, no broad leaf/hashplant contamination whatsoever like most modern genetics. Connoisseur grade for sure. Prosecution probably lead to poor farming techniques apart from genetic erosion caused by hybridization and past DEA eradication operations in most ganja producing countries during the 70s golden era.

hiya Mustafunk good to see you mate there are plenty of old genetics here things that even supersize me at times Thais were every were here they were like Sk1 here in the 70s 80s old Hawaiians African you name it they were being grown far n wide here.

A friend from school has a very old highland Thai that he said has been grown here for at lest 40 years that i have arranged to get once he can get here there are also lots of Dutch lines now to the old lines are in the hands of the older growers mostly and some don't even know just how rare these genetics are now.

Nevil liked Reefermans Thai (Greenhornet Thai ) the smoke is very nice he told me out of all the Thais he was sent and he grew the RM and Thia were the ones he went with Thia as he called it reminded him of the haze fem that never stopped flowering.

You be one of few to have that cross as you know Nevil was very reluctant to pass out set genetics even hybridized.

 

[@hempy]

most of it does come from laos hempy ,
thailand does not grow much pot to sell ,
there are some farms now that are mostly for medicinal pot etc ,
you can even get tours of them ,
some grow shops are opening in places like buriram in the north east ,
(a friend of mine has opened one)
so far any legal stuff is just medicinal
but hopes are it wont be long before recreational pot can be grown...

i visited andy a few times and saw what he was toking ,
and he was mostly only interested in growing western weed as it is popular among the westerners ,
the stuff he had both times i saw him was laos brick ,
its by far the most common pot that can be found ...

its true as you say there are small pockets where folks grow some plants ,
and there are seeds that trace back to the original stuff before the eradication program ,
but none of that stuff is sold or available commercially in general ,
you would be lucky to get hold of any if you were a fresh arrival and without some good contacts ...

Andy told me a lot of it was coming across from over the borders but there was also Thai being grown in house to but most of it was ok at best but he said some lots were very very good.

Its no different to Jamaica were you see NL being grown along side Sk1 and here n there you mite be lucky to see the old sativas being grown.

I know the old Thai sativas are still there but you need to know people to find them now just like here even then the growers may be reluctant to pass them on now because of big canna just like here.

What many are not getting is Government agency's / Universities have been collecting genetics for many decades i know for a fact the CSIRO here and the Southern Cross Universitie have a huge cannabis library. The Thai Universitie leading the medical cannabis program in Thailand has a huge collection of old Thai genetics .

These genetics are not lost but they may as well be lost as they will find there way into big pharma hands.

 

[@hempy]

First, shit on hempy
Second, desire his gear...

This basically sums up hempy's haters.

 

[Charles-scott]

Let me settle this I gave Nevill the Thai 78 along with pink kush and others .
The Thai 78 was originally from Green Hornet and I worked it for 3 generations .
Hope that helps

Charles

 

[Charles-scott]

Green Hornet is Swiss in case anyone was wandering why it was referred to as Swiss I told Nevil exactly where I got it .

 

[Charles-scott]

I can’t figure out how to edit on here I obviously fucked up and called it’s Thai 78 or something it’s Thai 82
Thai 82 is a sativavariety from Green Hornet and can be cultivated indoors(where the plants will need a flowering time of ±90 days) and in the greenhouse. Green Hornets Thai 82 is a THC dominant variety and is/was never available as feminized seeds.

These were made with seeds from Thai Sticks that were brought here, at great risk, back in `82. If you want to experience an old school, hazy Thai plant this is it ! The name comes from the label on the sack the oringinal seeds were in.

 

[@hempy]

Thanks for posting that Charles.

 

[romanoweed]

yep, if this is the real Reeferman, then i get 100 points i guess for my sharp Eyes.