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A Heads Up on the 78 Thia

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Hammerhead

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you can only edit your own posts hempy. I don't think any would/could remove a members edit function. All of my posts have the edit tab.
 

Donald Mallard

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Go listen to what Sam has said a few times Wally he enplanes it perfectly.

Its all in the Genetics and allowing the plants to fully mature not were it is grown.

California is a long way away from the tropics and yet just like here they grew and still grow some world class cannabis as dose many other places.
ok so im gonna try this once more ,
you are reading , listening to what he said wrong man ,

for instance ,, you are selling weed and use california grown as a sales point ,
sure they can grow good pot there , but it takes good genetics in the first place ,

its like saying everything you grow is great because you are hempy , and you grow indoor ,
not so is it , its due to the genetics you possess and maybe a few other factors , skill of the grower in order to tease out the best in those genetics ,

he is in no way saying you cant grow better thai in thailand than you do indoor ,
he would have been more careful with his words otherwise ,
he just means in order to grow good cannabis , you must start with good genetics ,

this is true of thailand too ,
you can grow poor genetics there , you will still get poor quality pot ..

im not sure if i explained it enough or in a way you can comprehend ,
but the statement i made about turning a sows ear into a silk purse is relevant here ...

100% you grow the best thai in thailand , or in a climate similar of a similar latitude ... there is no doubt about that one ..
 

CosmicGiggle

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you can only edit your own posts hempy. I don't think any would/could remove a members edit function. All of my posts have the edit tab.
@HEMPY's posts appear to have the report and edit tab from what I can see.

Mod's don't remove any members normal features, or change the title of a members thread.

Carry on! :tiphat:
 

Hammerhead

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It would be great if i had an edit feature again i guess thats the price i must pay for editing my thread lol

Explains not Enplanes

@HEMPY's posts appear to have the report and edit tab from what I can see.

Mod's don't remove any members normal features, or change the title of a members thread.

Carry on! :tiphat:

I was responding to his post above. I'm not sure but the person you tagged seems to be a different hempy? These accounts have different avatars. One has lower case and the other has upper case letters. I could never get the tag to bring up the right person.
 
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@hempy

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Give it a rest Wally i know what Sam said he said it in perfectly clear English.

Go re watch it a few times.

Start at 2.40m to 3.20m

Sam said and quote-
As long as the genetics are grown well and are allowed to fully mature its the genetics that determines whether you have a truly great grate plant or not.

Not the location the genetics are grown in or the grower growing it.
 

@hempy

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Screenshot 2022-10-31 at 14-27-05 A Heads Up on the 78 Thia.png


My edit feature vanished soon after i Edited my thread here is a screen shot of the post i just posted no edit feture to be seen
 

Donald Mallard

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Give it a rest Wally i know what Sam said he said it in perfectly clear English.

Go re watch it a few times.

Start at 2.40m to 3.20m

Sam said and quote-
As long as the genetics are grown well and are allowed to fully mature its the genetics that determines whether you have a truly great grate plant or not.

Not the location the genetics are grown in or the grower growing it.
hahaha ok mate , read what you want too ,
but pm him any time to clear that one up and report back
because i know sam knows where the best place to grow tropical pot is ,
and its not at your place mate ...

this is a bit like the time u proved to him about those hermies isnt it ,
but he had no idea what you were talking about still ...
you are in your own little world mate ,
if nothing else is certain , that most certainly is ....
 

MAHA KALA

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I give you examples how environment can make the difference.

this is same cut of diesel x bangi haze

greenhouse:

full


full



indoors:

full


full



same for Kona Gold cut:

full


full


greenhouse:

full


I found that some genetics grow better indoors, like og kush for example. but thats not case of tropical cultivar.
 
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mexcurandero420

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Its all about genetics and no one said indoors is better than out doors so who are you trying to convince here your self's or the rest of us ?

On a large part of the east coast here the last 3 or more years has been a complete disaster for out door grows from bush fire to floods.

I hate to brake it to you but tropical weather dose not automatically mean your going to grow good cannabis.

Indoor growing has enabled people to grow stealthy and also grow any variety they like in any environment.

Andy lived in Thailand and he grew indoors and i bet his weed was a hell of a lot better than most of what was being grown out doors.
It's all about genetics is correct, but nothing can beat the sun as light till now.Led light is very promising, but still you miss something in the light.
 

yesum

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wow exactly the same as 1 memory from one variety from 50 years back , hahaha ..

we might as well end the debate then yesum ,
this case is closed by the sounds of it ,, hahahahahaha ...
In 1974 I smoked at least 2 ounces or shared and smoked, so more than one smoke. All one batch I bought, 3 ounces total, or lids so less? We measured with fingers, hehe

But yes, the case is closed for me. Genetics are by far the main determining factor of all that happens with pot.
 
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Donald Mallard

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In 1974 I smoked at least 2 ounces or shared and smoked, so more than one smoke. All one batch I bought, 3 ounces total, or lids so less? We measured with fingers, hehe

But yes, the case is closed for me. Genetics are by far the main determining factor of all that happens with pot.
oh you get no argument with me over genetics being the main determining factor ,
though im convinced the best expression of those , is a place they are native to, or well adapted too,
less suited climates , or situations , wont give the same results ...
 

funkyhorse

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THH Xiskito spanish repro indoors
Top shot
Thh3 xiskito 1 punta.jpeg

Lowers
Thh3 xiskito 1 (2).jpeg
Thh3 xiskito 1 feno trigo b.jpeg

I was impressed to see same cut outdoors grow so different. I wanted to see those foxtailds but it seems to be indoors phenomena
THH Xiskito spanish repro
Top shot
Thh3 xiskito 1 (5).jpeg

Lowers
Thh3 xiskito 1 (8).jpeg
Thh3 xiskito 1 (9).jpeg
Thh3 xiskito 1 (10).jpeg

For pure tropical sativas which is what I like smoking and growing, I am moving outdoors. I am starting to clone outdoors as well and cancelling one veg room indoors.
Indoors are too complicated for pure sativas, too many problems, cant obtain same quality at all, cant beat the sun if you are in the tropics or near it
But hybrids and polyhybrids is something else You get very different expressions grown indoors or outdoors but the smoke is not that different. Anyway I prefer outdoor buds, they are more meaty
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
I had this debate with Wally years ago at Cannabis World now even tho i had grown set lines in and out and knew they smoked the same i still ran an experiment with 8 clones.

The findings surprised even me i already knew they smoke the same but i did not expect the indoor plants to taste better or have better looking flowers.

You wont beat the yield from an out door plant indoors.

Sam is right its not the location you grow in that determines if your going to get a good or poor quality flower its the genetics. Like i did i challenge others to run your own experiments and find out for your self's. That is how you advance your understanding of this hobbie.

Look at the first two pics from MAHA the flower from the outdoor plant has way more leaf than the indoor plant.
 

Donald Mallard

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you have misinterpreted what sam said hempy ,
and twisted around to try to prove a point you have been trying to make for years ,
that is not accurate , and most on the forum, in this thread disagree with you ,
but as always it falls on deaf ears ..

your experiment meant nothing , you do not live in the tropics mate ,
if location meant nothing and my climate is the same as yours
show me how you can grow a flower like this one outdoors at this time of year in your location ,
this picture was taken last week ...
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