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OntologicalTurn

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It is good to add a little normal local soil to the mix.Modern cannabis gardeners tend to despise clayey soil, mostly due to its tendency to compact, low absorption which tends to cause it to puddle, and because it is harder to work with and is heavier, but all of the above can be reversed with some perlite, and peat moss, and spiked with worm castings. I have noticed that when grown with clay soils the plants have fewer mineral deficiencies, and in fact can even heal those that are present.
 

Keif Cake

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It is good to add a little normal local soil to the mix.Modern cannabis gardeners tend to despise clayey soil, mostly due to its tendency to compact, low absorption which tends to cause it to puddle, and because it is harder to work with and is heavier, but all of the above can be reversed with some perlite, and peat moss, and spiked with worm castings. I have noticed that when grown with clay soils the plants have fewer mineral deficiencies, and in fact can even heal those that are present.
I live on a red clay hill with varying layers of thickness of varying levels of quality (mostly poor) topsoil or sand over it, i have learned over time it is actually a far better place to start from than i used to think, there are far worse types of ground to be dealing with, and the fact I'm on a high point helps.

It sounds like i know what to replace a portion of bin with now, i really haven't had a clue exactly what i was going to use for that purpose. I've already been pulling some out for some other type plants, peppers or whatever for seed starting or in pots.
 

Zomboy

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Ive been trying to upload a pic of my Zenith girls but i keep getting a server error for some reason
 

OntologicalTurn

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I live on a red clay hill with varying layers of thickness of varying levels of quality (mostly poor) topsoil or sand over it, i have learned over time it is actually a far better place to start from than i used to think, there are far worse types of ground to be dealing with, and the fact I'm on a high point helps.

It sounds like i know what to replace a portion of bin with now, i really haven't had a clue exactly what i was going to use for that purpose. I've already been pulling some out for some other type plants, peppers or whatever for seed starting or in pots.
clay can be amazing. The Italians have this special type of red clay soil that they call terra rossa from which they make excellent wines, and for some strange reason it doesn't compact.
The Afghan and Pakistani farmers for their part have been cultivating beautiful plants in clay for thousands of years, they use the clay from the banks of the rivers, put them in mounds and irrigate with a traditional system, creating small islets, or so I have seen in the account. from paklandracexchange's instagram. Frankly I am impressed by the traditional techniques of the Afghans.
Here in Mexico, clayey soil is traditionally enriched by burning wood, and the carbon in turn helps prevent the soil from compacting.

It would be nice to study the properties of what snob wine drinkers call "terroir" in weed. The effects of the different local soils, and knowing how to cultivate them is what really is the mastery of the gardener. I don't know about wine I'm more into mezcal and pulque but from what I've read it's what makes wines really exceptional, or Costa Rican coffee so special, and yes agaves etc
Unfortunately we live in a world where homogeneity is sought in everything, the dominos pizza model
 

Keif Cake

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clay can be amazing. The Italians have this special type of red clay soil that they call terra rossa from which they make excellent wines, and for some strange reason it doesn't compact.
The Afghan and Pakistani farmers for their part have been cultivating beautiful plants in clay for thousands of years, they use the clay from the banks of the rivers, put them in mounds and irrigate with a traditional system, creating small islets, or so I have seen in the account. from paklandracexchange's instagram. Frankly I am impressed by the traditional techniques of the Afghans.
Here in Mexico, clayey soil is traditionally enriched by burning wood, and the carbon in turn helps prevent the soil from compacting.

It would be nice to study the properties of what snob wine drinkers call "terroir" in weed. The effects of the different local soils, and knowing how to cultivate them is what really is the mastery of the gardener. I don't know about wine I'm more into mezcal and pulque but from what I've read it's what makes wines really exceptional, or Costa Rican coffee so special, and yes agaves etc
Unfortunately we live in a world where homogeneity is sought in everything, the dominos pizza model
I wish i had non-compacting clay soil, and i can vouch for burn piles on top of clay, there is a spot in the yard where a ton of brush and wook has been burnt, its easy to dig down several feet in that 20 ft across circle, the persimmon i planted there this year has really taken off, and already has fruiting buds on it. Observing how well trees have been growing in this soil, although the topsoil is very nitrogen deficient mostly everywhere, plus the things ive learned watching soil food web videos has changed my mind, plus the personal experience learning new techniques like double digging, which i used to plant table grapes and raspberries in. I know the clay soil grows a ton of blackberries.

Homogeneity is the opposite of what I'm doing, I've planted at least 40 fruit trees this year, only 5 of those are the same cultivar. I like learning about landrace gardening, where people will take all the varieties of a vegetable let them all cross pollinate, use the seed from your selections, plants and repeat so after a few seasons you've got a genetically diverse, superior, much healthier vegetable that is less prone to disease or nutrient deficiencies, and is acclimated to your specific conditions through generations of adaptation and selection. I hope to do that myself soon, but i can only do so much at a time.

Ive employed about a hundred chickens at the moment to help me cultivate my soul, i was going to change the typo, but id say that applies as well as the soil. There isn't much that can beat some good bird shit as fertilizer, plus they enjoy tilling, i don't.
 

Zomboy

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3 Zenith. Will go into flower in the next few days after i clean them up and take some clones
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Keif Cake

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That's good to know, not sure how much longer i will veg, none of them took a long time to show sex, but not expecting really crazy growth
 

Keif Cake

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Alright! Did some uppotting on time last night, how quickly they needed it as well, only one hadn't starting circling roots around the bottom of the pot for a couple of loops.

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I uppotted the three Super Panama Hazes into 5 gallon buckets, and also the orange potted Zenith and placed in flower last night. Now they have some breathing room.


Zenith is bottom left, is looking mostly normal now. The middle plant is Jack the Ripper, the other three are SPH
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Keif Cake

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The remaining three Zenith finally got put into flower last night. The center one i believe should be the fast flowering wall climbing pheno

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This is the problem one that i put into flower a couple weeks back, not stretching nearly as much i thought it would at this point, topping will not be done on this one. Actually it doesn't look like any of them will be topped.
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Finally got around to changing my soil mix up, lets see how this affects things over the next few months. Researching on red clay, it says pH is around 5 and usually calcium deficient, so heavy use of lime will continue to be needed, but i shouldn't have any iron deficiency issues, among other nutrients. I pulled most of the mix out of the bin, added about 8 gallons of mostly red clay, some of it was gray, and 2 bags of peat free soil mix, as well as putting back some of the original mix. Will likely add some perlite later.

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dubi

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Hey Dubi, love your dedication and strains that you put out in general. I just bought a 5 pack regs of Super Malawi Haze, I know this has nothing to do with the Zenith strain but do you have any info or tips on growing this variety? I was intrigued by the description of it when i bought it. Combining Neville's haze strain, with a Malawi, that just sounded so awesome to me. I cant wait to grow it and I will definitely report on ICMAG about how the grow went. Thanks and have a great day. PEACE.

Hi @IndicaFarmer Thanks to you for your support and interest in our work :yes: much appreciated.
Please, post your doubts in the Super Malawi Haze thread so we can keep on track all the different dedicated threads. Looking forward to follow your grow!
 
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