Welcome on board @Boss Cocky
hehehehhe 2 and 3 are "climbing the walls" phenos, 4,5 and E "levitating on cotton wool" phenos, 1 in the middle.
Better wait for the main season so genetics can show their full potential from seed
Zenith feminized limited edition
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Better wait for the main season so genetics can show their full potential from seed
Looks wonderful in mid flowering @island_organics 
Glad the scents are already complex and loud! Beautiful structure, and promising yield! What a difference since your previous update! Keep slightly increasing ec (still with nitrogen) if you detect any soft yellowing of the overall plant, at least until last reflowering is ripening.
Glad the scents are already complex and loud! Beautiful structure, and promising yield! What a difference since your previous update! Keep slightly increasing ec (still with nitrogen) if you detect any soft yellowing of the overall plant, at least until last reflowering is ripening.
@dubi Thinking of popping these next. What kind of EC are we looking at in peak flowering? 1.8ish?? Higher possibly even around 1.9-2.0 or is that pushing too hard?
Seems the Zamaldelica, Malawi and panama I’ve grown in the past didn’t like to go much above 1.8 but the description here makes it sound like these might like a tad more?
Seems the Zamaldelica, Malawi and panama I’ve grown in the past didn’t like to go much above 1.8 but the description here makes it sound like these might like a tad more?
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one on left looks more throwback to … Malawi ?
doing well once tapped into real soil like most sats…
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doing well once tapped into real soil like most sats…
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Zenith, 90 days from seed, in 1st picture. Second pic is left to right, Pangi, Panama red pheno X Mountain Gold and Zenith. All 3 have the Goddess in their blood.
Zenith was very slow out of the box but picked up steam after a few weeks. It was not topped but roped down a bit. Can't say how it will fill out but suspect it could be as large as Pangi usually gets.
This grow saw much neglect on my part. From a questionable soil mix to poor fertilization to missed waterings these plants are not in peak form. Grown inside under bright white SIL's. Just goes to show how top notch genes still power through.
How Ace uses Panama Goddess both as a male and female in their crosses is not like throwing darts. Selection and keen observation takes the guess work out of what they do. Thanks Dubi and Ace.
Zenith was very slow out of the box but picked up steam after a few weeks. It was not topped but roped down a bit. Can't say how it will fill out but suspect it could be as large as Pangi usually gets.
This grow saw much neglect on my part. From a questionable soil mix to poor fertilization to missed waterings these plants are not in peak form. Grown inside under bright white SIL's. Just goes to show how top notch genes still power through.
How Ace uses Panama Goddess both as a male and female in their crosses is not like throwing darts. Selection and keen observation takes the guess work out of what they do. Thanks Dubi and Ace.
That's an ACE collection
@wuluz thank you very much for your support! What are you planning to run this year ? Zenith is probably a bit too long flowering for your latitude, but others like Lebanese and Auto Malawi x NL will work great!
That strain sounds like Frankenstein Panama on steroids
I've tried Panama and it was certainly an absolute blast. But retrospectively I can clearly see how, despite the instant fun, it is detrimental to me on the long run. The outpour of energy made me slightly manic, getting up, dancing, laughing in an uncontrolled way and completely blew away my ability to focus. Just wow ! It really was an atomic bomb in my brain. The positive is that it widened my view about how rich and diverse the cannabis experience is as I would never have expected cannabis could be so energetic and it made me curious about tropical strains . But it's too much for me to handle so I'll never use Panama again. I prefer more gentle and rounded sativas such as ACE's Ethiopean which I grew this winter and was very fond of ! It's a pity though about Panama I was originally so enthralled by it that I reproduced the strain. I could use it in a breeding project though since it has a lot of desirable qualities : potency, very productive and super lush velvet smooth incense/sage aroma. So that new Zenith strain is not something I care to try but on the other hand I'm not surprised ACE came up with it, it was very clearly the direction they were heading for. I mean Golden Tiger, Zamaldelica all that craze with Malawi and Panama hybrids etc... Zenith is the logical next step. And it's just cool to see a commercial breeder getting past the NL/SKunk/haze syndrome and invigor the scene with new quality genetics !
But even if I won't use Panama again, or if i'll never try Zenith doesn't mean other people shouldn't if they want to and use it responsibly.
This being saif if anyone finds a "floating in space" pheno, I'm in
heheheh really like your post @Lebanizer although you said you are a bit scare of trying Zenith ...it's kinder than Panama and doesn't have the heavy feeling of Panama red phenos. I'm with you that one should be careful using daily strong sativas for long periods, it can be challenging for the mind, and it's not suitable for everyone ... i've been deep into our latest released Panama hybrids for the last half year and honestly i'm exhausted
and enjoying it at the same time.
Thanks for your support and for dedicating your grow to our genetics @Zumurrud calina
How did the 2 Zenith finish ? The other 2 on the top look very tropical, are they tropical mix ?
Thanks @Ur Humbl Nr8tor friend, it's really touching for me to realize how you have been through most of our catalogue, from the old Haze x Thais to the new Zenith
means a lot to me.Your young Zeniths are showing clear signs of underfeeding since your previous update (check also ph just in case). I don't like the symptoms of the odd one, or it's a serious case of ph imbalance or a broad mite (Polyphagotarsonemus latus) infection, hopefully it's the first case, please check ph and quality of the soil!
Thanks a lot for choosing our new releases Zenith and Super Panama Haze for your current grow and for your support all these years @Keif Cake 
much appreciated!
Looks to me like a Ca/Mg imbalance, glad to see the plants sorting out the problem after the transplant. The one with thinner-reddish stems looks like got more Meao Thai influence for the structure, the others have the robust, tamed bearing most Zenith do have.
Happy to hear they are already 10 days into 12/12. Check frequently ph, feed generously adding Ca/Mg too. All the best for the flowering stage!
much appreciated!Looks to me like a Ca/Mg imbalance, glad to see the plants sorting out the problem after the transplant. The one with thinner-reddish stems looks like got more Meao Thai influence for the structure, the others have the robust, tamed bearing most Zenith do have.
Happy to hear they are already 10 days into 12/12. Check frequently ph, feed generously adding Ca/Mg too. All the best for the flowering stage!
Both Zeniths look lovely @OntologicalTurn
and based on the structure probably siding to different phenotypes with different structure and qualities for finished product, #2 looks like the compact early flowering pheno, while #1 seems taller and longer flowering. Let's see how they react to outdoor conditions and under current photoperiod there
Thanks @OZZ_
really happy you are satisfied with the selections you are doing of our genetics and that you want to keep exploring our latest works, after experiencing Malawi, Panama and Zamaldelica i'm sure Zenith won't dissapoint you and will put new expressions into the table.Regarding feeding, i would say Zenith can eat like the hungriest Panama red expressions (1,8-2 flowering peak) and certainly more than most Malawis and Zamaldelicas
wuluz
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I like ACE, there is no burnout or anything afterwards, you get what is promised!!That's an ACE collection
Auto Zamal.. blooms, Auto Malawi.. blooms.
Lebanese and Zenith are in the growth phase. Zenith is coming to a greenhouse in the fall, I'm trying
Much respect @Mtn. Nectar
I'm honoured to know you are growing some Zeniths this season directly in the soil. You can expect most Zeniths grow with the strong, tamed, robust, thick Malawi and Panama kind of structures. Your support is much appreciated
Thanks to you @Lotto for your support and for appreciating Panama Goddess and her hybrids so much
She is really a key parent plant in our breeding for the last decade. What's your feelings on your Zenith female compared with other Panama hybrids you have experienced ?
Thank you very much.Thanks a lot for choosing our new releases Zenith and Super Panama Haze for your current grow and for your support all these years @Keif Cake
Looks to me like a Ca/Mg imbalance, glad to see the plants sorting out the problem after the transplant. The one with thinner-reddish stems looks like got more Meao Thai influence for the structure, the others have the robust, tamed bearing most Zenith do have.
Happy to hear they are already 10 days into 12/12. Check frequently ph, feed generously adding Ca/Mg too. All the best for the flowering stage!
The one with the rust spots on the leaves is showing it again in the fans, other than that it is looking nice! Really liking the tropical look to it. I'm worried that i may feed it too much cal/mg, ive been giving it a spoonfull or two every ten days or so.
Even with it showing Meao Thai structure, it is still growing very tamed, wont need to be topped and looks to finish at the perfect height for the tent, really even structure to it. I do have cuttings of all just.
@Keif Cake if problem is showing again in one of them then let's try what others suggest here, and move her to a more shady place with less light intensity and see next days how does she react, if she doesn't get better then something is happening with the soil.
She doesn't look bad at all, i will take a pic later this evening when the lights come on. I think she has about 2 weeks more flower time compared to the others.
I changed up my soil between uppotting that one and the other 3 zenith and the SPH's with a lot of clay and some peat free mix, hopefully that will fix the constant pH issues from running a heavy peat mix as they reach 12 weeks or so in the mix after uppotting. If it is something it doesn't like about the heavy peat mix, maybe the issue will be fixed if i run that one again.
But really though, it doesn't look bad enough to give me much concern over what I'm seeing in the fan leaves.
The new mix is much heavier, at nearly dry it weighs as much as my previous mix being watered, the clay should fix any micro issues that i recently ran into, and i think specifically that being Iron, which i believe is the micro i was running deficient.
I dont have much room to really move it a lot, i can try to move it to other side of the tent where that light is less powerful
Thanks @OZZ_
Regarding feeding, i would say Zenith can eat like the hungriest Panama red expressions (1,8-2 flowering peak) and certainly more than most Malawis and Zamaldelicas
Perfect. Thank you
ACE has got the most detailed info on the strain descriptions there is…. No doubt.
The only thing I find missing is the EC info, as when reading the strain descriptions the feed requirements listed as low-moderate-high can be highly subjective and vary widely …. So I always like to ask the EC range you recommend to get a closer target. It works well for my style of growing, probably not needed as much though in soil of course.
