OntologicalTurn
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Clay is good but maybe you put to much in the mix? You test how it drains? I am kind of worry since i was the one who recomend you to put some clay in the mix hehe. Hope everything goes fine
Zenith feminized limited edition
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That one is my old mix. I'm currently testing as I grow, i do suspect some more perlite willbe added later, i went to buy some before uppotting, but walmart didnt have a cashier in the garden center so i left, shouldnt have went there to begin with, but its the closest to home. Id say its about 15% clay in the mix, 25% peat free Back to roots, and maybe half of the old mix which was a majority peat, with organic garden soil, perlite, and vermiculite. I should have about 40-50% peat in the mix now. You can see the balls of red clay in the dark mix
You have no responsibility for the clay, i added a good bit into my raised beds around December or January and the plants have been doing very well. The only thing i need to be cautious about is to not overwater, so far everything is looking good.
I will take pics of everything later, the Super Panama Hazes are growing spectacularly in it
All in all though, other than supplementing Ca / Mg, and possibly moving it around within the tent, there isn't going to be much else special going on that Im going to do with that one. She does have the most attractive structure to me out of the 4 Zenith.
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OntologicalTurn
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20-30% is good i think maybe Even 50%.
Other thing i like ro do i put a nice layer of pure clay on top of the soft mix si the roots have a lees dense soil, and the clay slowly leaks his minerales to soil without compacto to much the roots, on top of tha layer of clay some mucho that way it dosnt make crust
The Wilder the plant they do better in clay i think, since most landraces are growed in normal soil
20-30 or 50% of what, peat? Or clay?
I know in my raised beds outside, i have barely had to water so far this year, last year when it was mosly Pro Mix i couldnt have gone a week without rain without watering the beds, i dont think i watered for about 2 weeks after the last rain before i did a couple of days ago.
I need to up the feeding on the Zenith as they like it stronger than the haze and Blueberries. Im afraid your diagnosis of broad mite may be correct. I’ve never experienced them before, the soil is FoxFarm and pH has been pretty consistent around 6.5-6.7. Im going to have to figure out a way to treat the entire lot as those mites will be spreading.Thanks @Ur Humbl Nr8tor friend, it's really touching for me to realize how you have been through most of our catalogue, from the old Haze x Thais to the new Zenithmeans a lot to me.
Your young Zeniths are showing clear signs of underfeeding since your previous update (check also ph just in case). I don't like the symptoms of the odd one, or it's a serious case of ph imbalance or a broad mite (Polyphagotarsonemus latus) infection, hopefully it's the first case, please check ph and quality of the soil!
To me it just looks like some kind of weird ass variegation, most likely caused by being extra calcium hungry, a lot of Ca. Helps control chem 91s variegation. She looks damn good to me even with the variegation thing going on,think Ill just leave her where she is.
Id say these plants are agreeing with the new mix, will see what it looks like at week 12+
It looks like even the seedlings are emerging more robust
Id say these plants are agreeing with the new mix, will see what it looks like at week 12+
It looks like even the seedlings are emerging more robust
Hi @Ur Humbl Nr8tor Zenith really needs higher ec levels than Blueberry or Haze during whole cycle.
Regarding the plant showing the odd growth. If it was a strong variegation, it would show strong variegation since seedling stage, so i think it is something related with environment.
Broad mite symptoms can easily be confused with strong ph imbalance symptoms. Since broad mite cannot be detected with naked eye, you need to take leaves of the affected plant and put them below a 100x microscope and look for mites, or bring leaf samples to a pest lab. Let's confirm what's happening first.
I gave it a healthy dose of Ca and some Epsom salts last night after taking pics, if I like it enough to run again it should be much happier in the clay mix. Other than that, There isnt much in the way of providing relief for it at this point, Im completely unwilling to turn down my lights for a single plant that wants to throw a fit if thats what the issue is.
It has shown those spots from the very first sets of leaflets right above the cotyledon, this is at 10 days old.
This is a large part of why i hate running a single plant from any line, and prefer to run a whole pack whenever i have the chance,
It has shown those spots from the very first sets of leaflets right above the cotyledon, this is at 10 days old.
This is a large part of why i hate running a single plant from any line, and prefer to run a whole pack whenever i have the chance,
thugpoet
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Hey Keif,
Honestly don't buy your all-made soil mix at Walmart (or any gardening store for that matter), there is no way it's going to be up to par.
If you are conscious about the sustainability of Peat, I would recommend a Coco/Wormcastings/perlite mix.
Based on my limited experience with LEDs, I would say staying on top of PH is a lot more important than in an HID supersoil grow, as feeding is completely different than with other styles of lighting. You can't wing the PH like people have been getting away with in non-led grows.
Going by your pictures, it looks like you have feeding issues with calcium (brown spots), Magnesium (leaf yellowing with veins staying green) and Potassium (brown tip burn). If I recall correctly Magnesium and Potassium are both transported to the plant via Calcium Phosphate.
I would recommend watering with PH adjusted water and checking your runoff to assess where your ph/nutrient level is at. It's going to tell you exactly what's wrong.
Top dressing with Dolomite Lime (or Oyster shell + Epsom salt) is recommended every couple of weeks if you are not adding liquid cal mag, but I would be wary of the effects on PH balance with Dolomite Lime as it raises the PH.
Cannamicably,
Thug
Until it can determined otherwise, im just going to refer to the Zenith with the weird spots as a mutation or mutant, and it looks like she is going to be a resin producing monster. Quite unusual to see this much resin at the onset of flower production. Maybe that will translate into it being a headbuster.
island_organics
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Zenith at sixty days of light dep. Her bracts are swelling and buds are getting denser. Resin glands are sparkling and she smells incredible. Another very impressive hybrid from Ace 
OntologicalTurn
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I don't think is variegation man, variegation looks like this:
(Cut from a variegated branch of ssh, after toped just one of the stems grow variegated)
And is a genetic condición no a thing of feeding, i think is something about the cal/mag
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OntologicalTurn
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She is still stretching
island_organics
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Zenith done at ten weeks. She’s been a pleasure and easy to grow. Could have benefited from a bigger pot but still finished without any problems. The aromas are very pungent, lots of Panama terps along with sweet, fruity smells too. Looks like a good yielding plant also. Can’t wait to grow her again, and very much looking forward to the smoke test.
I culled the one Zenith. i wasn’t seeing any serious issues w the other 25 plants. Here’s the four that are left…
wuluz
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...maybe the snails will smell itThe short ultra bushy Zenith smells like candy
You could plant borage. It keeps snails, slugs and grey worms at bay. Cabbage whiteflies hate it too.
