Zamaldelica
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YukonKronic
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Nope. THESE are aphids. Do your IPM folks. It’s worth it.
Breadwizard
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That last picture gives me anxiety. Blackberry bramble and milkweed get like that in the wild here, along with kale sometimes. *shudder*
YukonKronic
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Just give up on no sprays around your plants if you see them beginning to move in with any sort of numbers. I have sprayed Pyrethrums UNDER the canopy close to ground so there’s minimal side spray hitting lowers... soak surrounding vegetation and any ground cover you can twice a week for two or three weeks.
You can spray plain water at as high a pressure as you dare and cold as you dare (aphids hate cold water)to knock them off stems and lowers.. it should be done anyway if you spray pyrethrum so u can wash soap off your plant before it dries into a film.
Pyrethrums are derived from geraniums or something like that and are supposed to break down fairly quickly so I have sprayed during flower just never onto material I wanted to smoke and not in the last month of flowering... if they get as bad as above pics you have to remove plants and be damn careful about knocking aphids off onto nearby less affected plants... usually it’s nuke and pave.
You can spray plain water at as high a pressure as you dare and cold as you dare (aphids hate cold water)to knock them off stems and lowers.. it should be done anyway if you spray pyrethrum so u can wash soap off your plant before it dries into a film.
Pyrethrums are derived from geraniums or something like that and are supposed to break down fairly quickly so I have sprayed during flower just never onto material I wanted to smoke and not in the last month of flowering... if they get as bad as above pics you have to remove plants and be damn careful about knocking aphids off onto nearby less affected plants... usually it’s nuke and pave.
Kijell
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Here is one of my Auto Zamaldelica, so I thought I would share it here.
This plant is a lil bit more Zamaldelica leaning than my other.
Really like the structure.
It has that sweet mango carrot smell and more narrow leaves than my other. Incredible for an autoflower.
Cannot wait to test these, I think it will be a really smooth refreshing smoke for the day.
This plant is a lil bit more Zamaldelica leaning than my other.
Really like the structure.
It has that sweet mango carrot smell and more narrow leaves than my other. Incredible for an autoflower.
Cannot wait to test these, I think it will be a really smooth refreshing smoke for the day.
YukonKronic
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Yuppers. And often if you don’t dry weed really fast (who the hell wants to that!?) the few that are left in the bud become lumps of mould that melt your buds.
chronosync
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If i had just dropped acid or eaten a few caps or stems ... id be telling myself: buckle up kid this is gonna be fun. Even the leaf has this effect, sometimes I mix it in with whatever pot I have at the time, like just now. I made a big ol 50/50 spliff with some z leaf and a random sativa dom, clementine i believe it was called.
Right now everything has an orange glow... that color that happens at the end of the day sometimes when the air looks like honey and Im held by this power of clarity that is not my own.....
Does anyone else find it hard to settle on one thing to say making a post like this?
Right now everything has an orange glow... that color that happens at the end of the day sometimes when the air looks like honey and Im held by this power of clarity that is not my own.....
Does anyone else find it hard to settle on one thing to say making a post like this?
chronosync
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These are getting too thick, I really should have flipped them at least a week sooner.
If I do a heavy de-fol now, will it slow the stretch?
I could really use a break here
no pun intended because thats all ive been doing, snapping stems.The plan was to put up a second net and have that sort it out but within a week I honestly just gave up and let them do whatever, bending branches away when they get too close to the light.
YukonKronic
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YES one of the defining characteristics of Zamaldelicas high in my opinion is the fact that it is so amorphous. Always stunning in its clarity but always shifting about in ways that make it very hard to describe except as “weird” or to compare it with other drugs... which it really is not. It just is also not normal weed.
YukonKronic
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These are getting too thick, I really should have flipped them at least a week sooner.
If I do a heavy de-fol now, will it slow the stretch?
I could really use a break here
The plan was to put up a second net and have that sort it out but within a week I honestly just gave up and let them do whatever, bending branches away when they get too close to the light.
Defoliation now will affect your yield I think... my Zam plants all responded poorly to defoliation until well into stacking. If you need to tie some down to stems so they stay lower then I recommend that rather than mucking about taking energy away during stretch.... maybe lollipop bottom third of plants but leave as many leaves as you can just take the growing tips... that way you continue utilizing every bit of light you can and the plants have extra sources of sugars etc to deplete as they see fit. If your hellbent on opening up canopy just start thinning entire branches that are thinner or less developed than the neighbours they’re crowding... if you take a look in my thread I just posted pics of a similar situation to yours only mine is BKXPCK Bruce Banner and Crumbled Lime... the lollipopping right before (during is okay too... I never stop removing weaker growth through the entire life cycle) stretch and ruthless thinning of branches really made me feel a lot more confident about exactly where energy in my plant was being directed.
Edit: forgot to mention that you can feel okay topping those fuckers too.. Zam seems not to give s shit about topping even into late flower.. I did have pretty low yields playing with defoliation on them though.
chronosync
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OK, wow
thank you, I feel a little better about it now. You've given me some options. MUCH NEEDED options! I really appreciate the advice. What happens if you top a branch early in flower, do they still grow colas or more like pom poms?
I'm going to have to meditate on it tonight and get to it tomorrow but I think I have a better idea now what I can do. I wont pretend I'm not overwhelmed but youd think I would have saw this coming, right?
The light is at the highest the hangers will go but there is still another 4-5 in. I can raise if I tie it up to the ceiling
Theyre at 19 days since flip so, im guessing another week of stretch, and now Im becoming painfully aware that the buds will need room to grow as well ... maybe this will give you guys a better idea, sorry for the shitty pic.
Hi my friend what daylight / night times are you on?
If it was mine I would cut back lights on to 10 or 10.5hrs and reduce feeds until the flowering is well under way to slow stretch.
If you feed and give lots of light hours they will just keep growing and flowering.
You could also prune them right back at this early stage and they will bounce right back.
Dont worry they can take it and even be stronger for it.
Greetings,
I was looking for a Thai leaner, but I think I got an African looking plant:
It reminds me of Malawi, but not Dubi's Malawi selection. It looks more sativa looking. I'm thrilled about it anyway. Look how much light penetration it has. I'd love to see the buds go gold.
ThaiBliss
I was looking for a Thai leaner, but I think I got an African looking plant:
It reminds me of Malawi, but not Dubi's Malawi selection. It looks more sativa looking. I'm thrilled about it anyway. Look how much light penetration it has. I'd love to see the buds go gold.
ThaiBliss
Lookin beautiful!
YukonKronic
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Whhhoooeee!!! Fear not. I’ve been there. Top as aggressively as you want... remove every weak branch and probably some of the healthy ones... you WILL fill your space with buds you just have way too many now... pick some that will work and be ruthless with the rest.
It’s going to be scary as you start piling up removed material. Remember that your buds will grow into remaining space still... I would try to do branch removal first.... then lollipopping to clear up what your looking at then remove the ones you missed cause it was so thick.
Try to spread out damage over a few days at least or maybe a week so hormonal balance doesn’t get over fucked.
Your camera can help show you if growth you’ve left is getting sufficient light.... you might even need to keep lollipopping after stack starts. Bud size is a wonderful indicator of a branches health as is stem thickness.
With overgrown boxes I like only a few big buds per branch and then trim back branches until there’s juuuust enough to fill space.
It’s definitely a learning curve with overgrown canopies and Zam is hard mode. Don’t feel like you made much of a mistake LOTS of people have been surprised by Zamaldelica vigour and stretch.
Some more tropical phenotypes are real bastards for layering growth over itself in big candelabras that just never stop growing it seems... this is a defining trait of the Zamal “kraken” or “tentacle” style branching.
I now tend towards smaller plants trimmed to only 3 or four main leads and trained into a screen or a forest of bamboo stakes... they triple in size under 2 feet but if you let them get legs they just run like Terry Fox fucked Forrest Gump at a meth party and birthed a jacked up running machine.... all crazed eyes flying hair and endless dedication to a cause few understand. Until they see the end results and go “ooooohhhhh.... wow.”
YukonKronic
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If you spread your work out over a week it will give you time to see which leads you like most too... I think a lot of the best parts can be saved... you just need space cleared below so the tops can lay down a little more
YukonKronic
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I think it’s a Zamal/Thai with a more Malawi branch pattern than the irregular nature of the other two.... how’s the stem smell? I’m mildly obsessed with Zam stem smells
Whatever it ends up being she really is beautiful.. love the slender leaves.
I can’t wait to see her flower and hear descriptions of the smells!
Nice job ThaiBliss
Edit: just looked again... that meristem is just as straight as a beanpole! Lol I NEVER get to see Zam with a straight stem (4 feet headroom... sigh) hope Malawi influence is just in stem structure and off the charts power and the rest is all Thai and Zamal for ya bro!
Thanks for the positive vibes for me. Last I checked, it's got that fruity pineapple aroma with the pepper/pine/fuel background. Smells like highland Thai. I'll check again next time I go to the garden again this week. If it gets mature, I have no doubt it will be killer weed. I hope it will have smaller buds that are able to be dosed by the full intensity of the sun's rays.I think it’s a Zamal/Thai with a more Malawi branch pattern than the irregular nature of the other two.... how’s the stem smell? I’m mildly obsessed with Zam stem smells
Whatever it ends up being she really is beautiful.. love the slender leaves.
I can’t wait to see her flower and hear descriptions of the smells!
Nice job ThaiBliss
Edit: just looked again... that meristem is just as straight as a beanpole! Lol I NEVER get to see Zam with a straight stem (4 feet headroom... sigh) hope Malawi influence is just in stem structure and off the charts power and the rest is all Thai and Zamal for ya bro!
T.B.
