Zamaldelica

[xet]

44C daytime.... Geese you're hot, regularly !

Yes and it is 47'C right now and the plants are loving, absolutely loving, it.

I must say the wild Kumaoni is outperforming all of my strains right now in terms of growth and vigor with the Zamaldelica right behind. Of course the Kumaoni lacks potency and refinement and produces majority male and has it's own quirks but in either case I hope to have an F1 Zamaldelica and a cross of the Zamaldelica and Kumaoni for a project

 

[xet]

Zamaldelicas, 1-4, including the new sprout that did not mind sprouting and growing in 47'C temps today under a clear sky and direct sun.

More strains and information in my grow diary here https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=353491

 

[Bona Fortuna]

Update on the zamaldelica.
Things have been going swimmingly.
I had hiccups with my soil being too hot, temperature not fertilizer. Some leaves on one of my zams are affected, yet not horribly.

Zam1:

Slight closer detail:

And zam 2:

I think she has been in a strange preflower stage for almost a month now... details:

 

[Tangwena]

When she starts to flower full on she should be huge. Lovely sun grown plants they look awesome.

 

[xet]

Zamaldelica 1-4, Day 6 larger plants, day 2 sprout

 

[Karra]

Nice looking plants, Bona Fortuna. Are you going to prune them a bit?

 

[Bona Fortuna]

Nice looking plants, Bona Fortuna. Are you going to prune them a bit?

Thank you karra!
I don't intend on pruning anymore, perhaps I will tie down branches in the upcoming weeks if they prove to get too unruly.

@tangwena: many thanks! Very appreciated words.

*EDIT*
My plants look taller than they really are... mostly.
The one closest to fence is probably just now pushing 1m tall and probably 1.5m wide
The one adjacent to it is juxstaposed. 1.5m tall and roughly 1m wide.

 

[nksv]

anyone f2 their zamz? experiences?

 

[dubi]

I'm old enough to have smoked the famous sativas of the 70s. That includes Thai sticks of which there was a lot here in the late 70s early 80s. I'll never forget some of the sticks that passed through in '80 to '82. I grow both Zamaldelica and Golden Tiger in pursuit of that type of smoke. I've continued with Z. because I don't think I've achieved it's best potential yet. Same with GT.

This year I also have a pure Zamal (Double Zamal from Tropical) to see what it's like on its own.

Last year and the year before I grew Thai Stick seeds I got from Ace in 2015. First try, weather conditions really hammered the one I had going so it I wouldn't call it successful. Minor insect damage (tiny nibbles on the nodes and stems) allowed mold to attack and the wet weather provided the conditions for it to really spread.

Second try, last year, went better, especially the weather. It was close to finishing but I had to leave for a Europe trip on November 10 so I had to harvest it as it couldn't be left untended for 2 weeks. It was the last plant still going at that point. It didn't have the power and intensity I remember from the best sticks. More time might have helped.

By the way even though this is a Zamaldelica thread, may I ask, how similar or different were the Thai Stick you had from the Luang Prabang you had? I read somewhere they were nearly the same. Those are still available at a few sources.

About my phenotypes this year, one certainly clearly seems Malawi dominant. The other, the growing tips look almost identical to the Zamal. Very thin spidery twisted leaves although the branch structure may still be of the Malawi type.

I'm not sure what would signal Thai dominant pheno of Zamaldelica. How often do you see those? What are the characteristics of those?

Hi musigny23,

Glad you had the chance to experience the early 80s Thai Sticks, many oldtimers refer to to the Thai Sticks from that era as the best ones. Wish seeds from those Thai Sticks were still available ... but from what i've heard they were seedless most of the times.

The Thai Stick and Laos Luang Prabang seeds we distributed a few years ago came from Gypsy, we didn't breed them at ACE, but they were very late finishers, usually finishing at Xmas time, i highly doubt in November they had the chance to develop their potential.

Not sure where Gypsy got this batch of Thai Stick seeds, but i find the purple northern laotian sativas to be quite different compared with the more classic green thai sativas.

Zamaldelica's Thai phenos can be mainly found in the regular releases, they are easy to identify because they usually finish with reddish colors at the end of flowering with lower temps, they grow taller with a lankier structure, and they produce a very electric nervous kind of effect, almost like a pure stimulant kind of effect.

 

[jus'plain'gill]

Here is one of two Zamaldelica fem I have going. Coco DTW, Maxibloom the whole way, 600W hps. 18/6 for 9 weeks. The last 2 plants out of 7, currently flowering at 13.5 weeks. 2 Congo fem, 2 Bangi Haze fem, and 1 Bangi Haze regular are currently dried and curing.

I'm hoping for a little insight on my harvest window. I've been battling temps in the low 90s for a couple weeks and, while ripening seems to be progressing, I'm thinking there has been some delay in finishing.

The above photo is the best I could do to get the whole plant in one photo, shes wild so that wasn't easy! (her sister on the left side of the closest is even wilder, incredibly branchy and stretchy, and probably at least 2-3 weeks from finishing)

Sorry for the atrocious pictures, they certainly don't do her justice. I'll try to get pictures of the other remaining Zamaldelica but it will be even tougher.

Thanks again to all in this forum, for the knowledge and inspiration.



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[xet]

Zamaldelica, 1-4, day 8, day 3 smaller one

 

[baduy]

 

[xet]

Zamaldelica and Kumaoni on Day 10

 

[xet]

Zamaldelica and Kumaoni, Day 10 from seed

 

[xet]

Zamaldelica, 1-4, Day 10

 

[gr8fulguitr]

Here I am about a week after first seeing pistol, the thing is a beast.
I love it!

 

[LostTribe]

Yeah so Aero cloner 12 spotter with 10 plants and the Zam did about 1/2 the entire yield! Great growth and super stick iCK at 10 weeks finished last 3 weeks 10/14's. ps didnt bother with these at all adjusted ph 1x per week with maxi bloom kiss method ro with 1 tsp calms 1 tsp maxib.

Sticky Icky!

Gonna be DANK! Sweet Mango Carrot smell!
LT

 

[chronosync]

2nd try with the zamaldelica.
Two more beans
These were sprouted in May, topped a few weeks ago and cuts put in mini hempy cups a few days ago. Z-A and Z-B

The seed plants/mothers are in coco getting between 350-400ppm on top of 80-100ppm tap/ro so feeding pretty low at around 0.8ec - 1.0ec.

Super vigorous plants! I love these so far. Again!
Hopefully I can do better for them this time around.

Z-A on right Z-B on left, and second in clone pics is Z-A

 

[Bona Fortuna]

Anyone's outdoor zamaldelica starting to flower in the northern hemisphere?
I'd like to think I have a semi-autoflower my zamal. I will get pictures in a bit.

 

[BlackBuds]

I have one outdoor Zamal among 4 that has been showing pistils for 2 weeks now. I need to take some cuts quick. Im in Nor Cal. 2 Golden Tigers just staring to flower...will get the pics soon