Zamaldelica
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That depends on the plant, pheno, and your tastes... Some cut the moment amber starts to kick in, some the moment they turn cloudy.
Zamaldelica (scary/terrorific pheno) can be too overwhelming for some, that's why I guess most wait for some amber to set in, to mellow the high a little.
As xet said, curing also tends to lessen the stone and clear the high.
Zamaldelica (scary/terrorific pheno) can be too overwhelming for some, that's why I guess most wait for some amber to set in, to mellow the high a little.
As xet said, curing also tends to lessen the stone and clear the high.
I've been smoking for half my life (I'm 34), I think I want the overwhelm 
I can only speak from natural sun experience but I have a very zamal pheno for which waiting for amber is a waste of time, it just turn more and more milky till the point it's 95% milky and 5%clear 5% amber (yes I know that's 105% but I do what I want 
). Better to keep eyes on calixes, when they are well swollen with all the pistils brown give her one more week and let her sit in the dark a few days. just my opinion
). Better to keep eyes on calixes, when they are well swollen with all the pistils brown give her one more week and let her sit in the dark a few days. just my opinion
Thank you for your input 
Unfortunately, I won't be able to let her stay in the dark as my 12/12 space is running 24/7/365. I'm growing with a friend who bought the seeds in the first place. I'm doing the grow part, he is doing the post harvest then we share 50/50.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to let her stay in the dark as my 12/12 space is running 24/7/365. I'm growing with a friend who bought the seeds in the first place. I'm doing the grow part, he is doing the post harvest then we share 50/50.
Hi musigny23,
Really appreciate you have included Zamaldelica in your outdoor line up for the third time, that's a great sign!
Yes, the Zamaldelica regular versions are more variable than current Zamaldelica fem version which is much more consistent.
Your 2 Zamaldelica fem females have mainly the Malawi structure, but their psychoactivity and terpene profile should go towards the Zamaldelica elite side.
Best wishes!
The start of a great adventure with those trippy gem (™ yourself )
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xet
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And here comes Zamaldelica #3 ! (and maybe #4 to the left)
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I was wondering if it would be possible to force Zamaldelica (Zamal/Thai pheno, about 13-14 weeks) whole July at 12/12 then let her finish outdoor and harvest late September/early October.
I'm at 50.4669000 North / 4.8674600 East (Namur, Belgium). We are getting 15h01 daytime August 6th, hitting 14h00 August 24th. August is mostly sunny and so is September most of the time.
Would she stay in flowering, coming from 12/12 indoor?
I'm at 50.4669000 North / 4.8674600 East (Namur, Belgium). We are getting 15h01 daytime August 6th, hitting 14h00 August 24th. August is mostly sunny and so is September most of the time.
Would she stay in flowering, coming from 12/12 indoor?
Hi musigny23,
Really appreciate you have included Zamaldelica in your outdoor line up for the third time, that's a great sign!
Yes, the Zamaldelica regular versions are more variable than current Zamaldelica fem version which is much more consistent.
Your 2 Zamaldelica fem females have mainly the Malawi structure, but their psychoactivity and terpene profile should go towards the Zamaldelica elite side.
Best wishes!
I'm old enough to have smoked the famous sativas of the 70s. That includes Thai sticks of which there was a lot here in the late 70s early 80s. I'll never forget some of the sticks that passed through in '80 to '82. I grow both Zamaldelica and Golden Tiger in pursuit of that type of smoke. I've continued with Z. because I don't think I've achieved it's best potential yet. Same with GT.
This year I also have a pure Zamal (Double Zamal from Tropical) to see what it's like on its own.
Last year and the year before I grew Thai Stick seeds I got from Ace in 2015. First try, weather conditions really hammered the one I had going so it I wouldn't call it successful. Minor insect damage (tiny nibbles on the nodes and stems) allowed mold to attack and the wet weather provided the conditions for it to really spread.
Second try, last year, went better, especially the weather. It was close to finishing but I had to leave for a Europe trip on November 10 so I had to harvest it as it couldn't be left untended for 2 weeks. It was the last plant still going at that point. It didn't have the power and intensity I remember from the best sticks. More time might have helped.
By the way even though this is a Zamaldelica thread, may I ask, how similar or different were the Thai Stick you had from the Luang Prabang you had? I read somewhere they were nearly the same. Those are still available at a few sources.
About my phenotypes this year, one certainly clearly seems Malawi dominant. The other, the growing tips look almost identical to the Zamal. Very thin spidery twisted leaves although the branch structure may still be of the Malawi type.
I'm not sure what would signal Thai dominant pheno of Zamaldelica. How often do you see those? What are the characteristics of those?
'Boogieman'
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I wish I could go back in time and try those thai sticks. Do you guys think maybe out there somewhere in thailand somebody still grows pure thai maybe it still exists?
mayorofthdesert
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I bet there's still natives growing it, I used to get thai sticks as recently as the late 90's
Sativamane
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So I cut Z #1 at 98 days. I wanted to let her go for another week but had to pull early. I found some bud rot on one cola, size of a marble. I also found a single mature banana, which also made this an easy decision.
Trimmed and is drying now. Smells like wet grass with a touch of sweet carrot.
She was a big yielder for me considering I am micro growing with little vegging time.
Trimmed and is drying now. Smells like wet grass with a touch of sweet carrot.
She was a big yielder for me considering I am micro growing with little vegging time.
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I haven't been to Thailand for a long time. Real quality Thai sticks ended arriving in California in about '82-'83. Less good quality kept appearing till '88 and then the Feds busted those importers too. I'm not certain the lesser ones were actually Southeast Asian product.
I spent a fair amount of time in Thailand in the late '80s and found sticks a few times but they weren't as good as the early 80s ones. However I have to think it was more about the production situation than the genetics. The thing is, I think "Thai sticks" may also have been produced in border regions of Laos and Cambodia too. Sticks were not all coming from the same place and strain. There was variation.
When I first checked out Ace for seeds, Zamaldelica and Golden Tiger seemed like they might provide a similar experience. At the time, Ace also offered me some Thai Stick seeds they happened to find in their inventory. My climate is fairly different from Southeast Asia as in being "mediterranean". So while there isn't a hard winter here, the conditions are not tropical. A greenhouse might make a big difference.
A few years back I cured some Chocolope for 6 months and reproduced as best I could from memory, about 100 5 - 7 gram sticks.
These really could have passed for the real thing and I shocked and surprised a few old timers with them but I never tried to actually pass them off as real.I always let them know they weren't actually genuinely from Thailand. I provided them to a dispensary as Thai'd Sticks. They weren't as good as the really good originals but they were good. With the right strain and further practice I bet I could get something very nearly as good as the originals. But the effort isn't worth it. The younger crowd just wants indoor OG Kush or Girl Scout Cookie or whatever.
Anyway, back to the official thread topic, Zamaldelica.
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Are you saying no modern selectively bred pure sativa completely matches the psychedelic quality of the best weed of the 70's or 80's ? I have never smoked weed from back then but when you read about Zamaldelica you would think it would at least match that quality if it dose not surpass it.?
for u fans of Thai Stick (circa 1974 Bangkok police bust)
