Wuhan Coronavirus is an Offensive Biological Warfare Weapon

[gaiusmarius]

yes Chimera is being antagonistic, but he is not using personal attacks, he is attacking your content, not you personally, that makes a difference, you keep insulting him personally. in reality i should binning every post with personal insults. it was one of the conditions of having a speakers corner, people would refrain from personal insults or not be allowed to participate. you can ridicule his opinion/words, but not the member himself.

if you say i think what you say is stupid its not the same as saying you are stupid. every time you do it i cringe.

 

[Chimera]

If it is not related to sars why use sars in the name.

Once again, it is named for the disease phenotype the virus causes in humans.

Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome

This is the 2nd Corona Virus to cause this phenotype, so the scientific community named it SARS-CoV-2

 

[Chimera]

... every time you do it i cringe.

Respectfully gaiusmarius, maybe every time he does it you should hit the bin button rather than cringe?

I guess it's OK to just insult members over and over. I mean it's not like that creates a hostile environment nobody in their right mind would want to post in, don't you think?

 

[shaggyballs]

yes Chimera is being antagonistic, but he is not using personal attacks, he is attacking your content, not you personally, that makes a difference, you keep insulting him personally. in reality i should binning every post with personal insults. it was one of the conditions of having a speakers corner, people would refrain from personal insults or not be allowed to participate. you can ridicule his opinion/words, but not the member himself.

if you say i think what you say is stupid its not the same as saying you are stupid. every time you do it i cringe.

He is using personal attacks, they have been edited.
I have to fend off every troll in this place.
All of the personal attack I endure, can shape my reaction
So my actions may reflect this, sorry about that.
I am not perfect, I agree I could choose better words.
Try to understand if you can, walk a mile in the shoes.

I honestly tried to play nice more than once
I asked him to avoid the personal attacks.
He did not, I tried more than once.
Look back in the thread, you will see it is true.

I have asked for a man to man rational debate.
All feelings aside.
Do you feel he has provided that?
He is intentionally vague and evasive.
How does that help anyone.
He has caused the issue from the start, intentionally.

But you blame me......
You say you know he is here just to intentionally poke the bear.
But you condemn the bear?
What gives.

 

[gaiusmarius]

to be honest i saw him attacking the quality of your sources, and posts, but i didnt catch any personal attacks like you been making. maybe i missed it. but you need to seperate these things. debate topic and personal attack.

 

[shaggyballs]

Respectfully gaiusmarius, maybe every time he does it you should hit the bin button rather than cringe?

I guess it's OK to just insult members over and over. I mean it's not like that creates a hostile environment nobody in their right mind would want to post in, don't you think?

Yea, I am the one that started the drama, you are totally inocent in the matter.
Nice work, edit out all your personal attacks and then post this.
Well thought out plan.
Why don't you use that effort to help the community.
You are very good at deception.

 

[unclefishstick]

does everyone know about the "ignore user" function?



and realize it's voluntary reading these threads?

 

[shaggyballs]

to be honest i saw him attacking the quality of your sources, and posts, but i didnt catch any personal attacks like you been making. maybe i missed it. but you need to seperate these things. debate topic and personal attack.

Have I not been asking for that exact thing.
A man to man rational discussion.
Without feelings and political rants.

You see I have made this exact request time and time again.
I want that exact thing I keep saying it over and over.

Folks don't play by those rules.
Look through my posts, there is a personal attack on me for just about every statement I ever made.

Folks do not debate my topics they attack me personally.

Let us leave the sarcastic comments out of the debate.
Let us leave out politics.
Let us leave out personal feelings.
Let us leave out insults.
Let us lay the facts side by side without any drama.

A debate among men not children.
Civil and to the point, not about personal gain.

I am all in, but will the rest play by those rules?
They have not wanted to thus far.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

- yeah shaggy - take your foot off the gas for a while - and learn to debate without calling the entity you are debating with insulting names - even if they might resort to that type of language - no need to encourage it by replying in kind -

- attack the ball - not the man - this ain't Gridiron - or some opportunity for one-upmanship - its about debating whether or not this wuflu is an offensive weaponized virus - so calling other members silly names don't really enter into it - and is more of an irritating distraction - that takes the mind off the subject of thread -

 

[shaggyballs]

- yeah shaggy - take your foot off the gas for a while - and learn to debate without calling the entity you are debating with insulting names - even if they might resort to that type of language - no need to encourage it by replying in kind -

- attack the ball - not the man - this ain't Gridiron - or some opportunity for one-upmanship - its about debating whether or not this wuflu is an offensive weaponized virus - so calling other members silly names don't really enter into it - and is more of an irritating distraction - that takes the mind off the subject of thread -

You make a good point.
But
Seems there is a bit of a double standard going on here.
My actions are under scrutiny but I am trolled heavily and I am bombed with personal Attacks everyday.

My I ask why there seems to be a double standard?
Folks seem to say what they want to me, no one bats an eye.

But when I get defensive and play their game.
I am seen as the problem.

I have been a bit overly defensive lately.
This is due to the huge barrage of personal attacks.
If there are no personal attacks on me, I will not be on the defense.


Hell, I bet I can post 5 pages of nothing but personal attacks.


I do see this action as childish.
But when folks are constantly throwing rocks.
Sometimes you need to settle the score.

I do not see this action as right.
But it sure feels good to throw rocks back once in a while.
I hope you understand.

Ok I have said my piece, I will try and quit with the personal attacks.

 

[shaggyballs]

Once again, it is named for the disease phenotype the virus causes in humans.

Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome

This is the 2nd Corona Virus to cause this phenotype, so the scientific community named it SARS-CoV-2

Well that made things crystal clear, not!

If it is not related to sars....
Why use sars in the name at all?
Why not drop sars completely if it is not related.
Kinda like buffalo wild wings to me.

It is not sars not related to sars, so we call it SARS-CoV-2.

How does that make any sense?

 

[shaggyballs]

Do you have any comments on this?

If we know for sure, man came from apes, as you allege where is the proof?
We don't know for sure as you allege do we?

You are a scientist right.
Can you really make statements like that without proof?
Try and publish a peer reviewed paper without proof.
You will be the laughing stock of the community.
Would you not?

This is the exact point I was trying to make.
We do not have the missing link.
It does not exist.
This suggests accelerated evolution in a lab.
The virus seem to have made a huge/impossible evolutionary jump to infect humans.

Much like humans....
How can you say this is true for sure without the missing link.
It is pure speculation on your part is it not?
If you say it is not....
Please provide the missing link.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

- it takes 2 to Tango - and if you don't engage - their ain't no engagement -

- so less of the drama - and more on the theme of the thread - if you please -

 

[geneva_sativa]

https://youtu.be/xxuHUgtLdfk

--- HighWire --- The Scam --- 24 mins

 

[gaiusmarius]

Chimera if i remove those posts now, your responding posts will make no sense. also see a lot of it has been self edited. what i'm trying to do is agree the ground rules so things can continue smoothly. also, i just havn't gotten back in the moding sadel. there is a moding team active and i dont want to step on any toes. i only just got back after all.

 

[unclefishstick]

it would be a lot simpler for us if both parties would take advantage of the ignore function...

 

[shaggyballs]

Chimera if i remove those posts now, your responding posts will make no sense. also see a lot of it has been self edited. what i'm trying to do is agree the ground rules so things can continue smoothly. also, i just havn't gotten back in the moding sadel. there is a moding team active and i dont want to step on any toes. i only just got back after all.

Some behind the scene editing going on...coool.
Lots of shadowy stuff surrounds some folks, be careful.

 

[shaggyballs]

gaiusmarius

Your points were well made.
I do agree with you and would like to get back on track with the discussion.
I agree some of my post have been unproductive and I mean to correct this.
As gypsy said it takes 2 to tango.
In real life I don't let foolish statements bother me. usually....LOL
It seems I will need to implement that here.
I appreciate your patience.

 

[geneva_sativa]

NYT's attempts at damage control with their ScrewYouTube commercials are too funny,,,,

as if they had any cedibility anymore

 

[gaiusmarius]

Some behind the scene editing going on...coool.
Lots of shadowy stuff surrounds some folks, be careful.

i was talking about your own self edits bro, please chill out a bit.