Wuhan Coronavirus is an Offensive Biological Warfare Weapon

[shaggyballs]

The discourse here on ICmag has really settled to an embarrassing level.

I guess you earn the level of discourse you curate.

Why do you keep jacking everyone off here?
Answer the dam question, if you can?

Let us start with this short video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-S-Qq9M53Y
I am still waiting on Chimera's answer to this question.
Why is it very clear to her this thing is a product of Accelerated evolution.

The jump is too large to make in on leap.
It would need to do it incrementally.
But the natural evolutionary steps are missing, they do not exist.
This indicates human intervention does it not.

Could you be as short and direct as possible leaving any and all political references out of you explanation.

In short dumb it down for us stoners who don't talk politics, please.

 

[gaiusmarius]

The discourse here on ICmag has really settled to an embarrassing level.

I guess you earn the level of discourse you curate.

nice. very friendly, use a bunch of tnt when a sniper is required.

 

[Chimera]

I should really be more accurate.

Let me clarify... the discourse in this thread.

Truth is, I don't spend much time on the forums here, because I find users like this dominate the discussions generally, and well... discussion under these circumstances, isn't really a discussion at all, is it?

 

[shaggyballs]

I should really be more accurate.

Let me clarify... the discourse in this thread.

Truth is, I don't spend much time on the forums here, because I find users like this dominate the discussions generally, and well... discussion under these circumstances, isn't really a discussion at all, is it?

I agree, but you spout bull shit claiming you know.
You suggest others follow your lies.
Not talking phylos here.

I show you something that suggests you may be wrong.
You dismiss it as trash.
example WHO reference ignored!

You like to talk your educated spin, never revealing any real truth.
If this is wrong, quote to show your side is true.

I am up for a rational debate.
As you see from the start of the conversation I have said this.
Do you feel that is what you have provided here.
A debate like men, or children.
I asked to leave the personal attacks out of it even after you attacked me first.
But did you do that?
Did you respond like a man in a rational debate?
No you made nothing but personal attacks on me.

Please summarize the facts you have provided thus far.
If you do that, and we stick to the facts,eliminating personal feelings we would have a rational debate with men not children.

Is that something you would be interested in doing?
We could simply list our facts and compare notes.
No personal feeling involved what so ever.
Is that something you would be interested in doing?

 

[geneva_sativa]

Dr Ron Paul --- Fake "Scare" Coverage and Overkill Response

https://youtu.be/4fi877VXKw0

 

[Storm Shadow]

Hoax

 

[mexcurandero420]

RaTG13 – the undeniable evidence that the Wuhan coronavirus is man-made

https://nerdhaspower.weebly.com/ratg13-is-fake.html

 

[funkyhorse]

Let us start with this short video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-S-Qq9M53Y

Why is it very clear to her this thing is a product of Accelerated evolution.

The jump is too large to make in on leap.
It would need to do it incrementally.
But the natural evolutionary steps are missing, they do not exist.
This indicates human intervention does it not.

You have the floor.

Thank you

This is the website of the expert:
https://plandemicmovie.com/


and this is the youtube link of that 1st part movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B8qJbKwx_o&feature=emb_logo



If you can give more info, then the people who can provide answers to all these questions can judge better and provide a better and thoughtful answer.

At the end of the day this is just business, everybody is making business out of this, so if anyone needs a container of KN95 masks, let me know, maybe I can give you a better quotation than the one you have...

 

[shaggyballs]

Humanity is imprisoned by a killer pandemic. People are being arrested for surfing in the ocean and meditating in nature. Nations are collapsing. Hungry citizens are rioting for food. The media has generated so much confusion and fear that people are begging for salvation in a syringe. Billionaire patent owners are pushing for globally mandated vaccines. Anyone who refuses to be injected with experimental poisons will be prohibited from travel, education and work. No, this is not a synopsis for a new horror movie. This is our current reality.

Let’s back up to address how we got here...

In the early 1900s, America’s first Billionaire, John D. Rockefeller bought a German pharmaceutical company that would later assist Hitler to implement his eugenics-based vision by manufacturing chemicals and poisons for war. Rockefeller wanted to eliminate the competitors of Western medicine, so he submitted a report to Congress declaring that there were too many doctors and medical schools in America, and that all natural healing modalities were unscientific quackery. Rockefeller called for the standardization of medical education, whereby only his organization be allowed to grant medical school licenses in the US. And so began the practice of immune suppressive, synthetic and toxic drugs. Once people had become dependent on this new system and the addictive drugs it provided, the system switched to a paid program, creating lifelong customers for the Rockefellers. Currently, medical error is the third leading cause of death in the US. Rockefeller’s secret weapon to success was the strategy known as, “problem-reaction-solution.” Create a problem, escalate fear, then offer a pre-planned solution. Sound familiar?

Flash forward to 2020...

They named it COVID19. Our leaders of world health predicted millions would die. The National Guard was deployed. Makeshift hospitals were erected to care for a massive overflow of patients. Mass graves were dug. Terrifying news reports had people everywhere seeking shelter to avoid contact. The plan was unfolding with diabolical precision, but the masters of the Pandemic underestimated one thing... the people. Medical professionals and every-day citizens are sharing critical information online. The overlords of big tech have ordered all dissenting voices to be silenced and banned, but they are too late. The slumbering masses are awake and aware that something is not right. Quarantine has provided the missing element: time. Suddenly, our overworked citizenry has ample time to research and investigate for themselves. Once you see, you can’t unsee.

The window of opportunity is open like never before. For the first time in human history, we have the world’s attention. Plandemic will expose the scientific and political elite who run the scam that is our global health system, while laying out a new plan; a plan that allows all of humanity to reconnect with healing forces of nature. 2020 is the code for perfect vision. It is also the year that will go down in history as the moment we finally opened our eyes.

 

[gaiusmarius]

you are making it hard Shaggy, not sure what it is, but you are flooding the thread with stuff, and being overly antagonistic for you to be able to expect civil engagement. you have to take it one issue at a time and actually digest what the other side is saying as a whole. its no good focusing in on some while ignoring the rest. i feel you need to be more succinct, make 2 posts instead 10. don't focus on the personality but the question you wish to discuss or present. i do see Chimeras point about the clutter. its like you are spamming.

 

[shaggyballs]

you are making it hard Shaggy, not sure what it is, but you are flooding the thread with stuff, and being overly antagonistic for you to be able to expect civil engagement. you have to take it one issue at a time and actually digest what the other side is saying as a whole. its no good focusing in on some while ignoring the rest. i feel you need to be more succinct, make 2 posts instead 10. don't focus on the personality but the question you wish to discuss or present. i do see Chimeras point about the clutter. its like you are spamming.

Ok, I will back off a bit.
To avoid the clutter I had separate thread for every topic.
But that is just crazy talk, organized threads to stay on topic.
Off topic posts could be deleted.
I would love to have a thread that stayed on topic and had proper moderation.
Delete all off topic posts, as long as everyone is equal.

I have tried to take one issue at a time.
My first question for chimera was totally ignored.
Then he call my links trash without providing anything himself.
So I got off topic.

What real info did he provide to us?
I was not able to get any facts from him only opinion.
When I asked for a man to man rational debate.
I got personal attacks, so I attacked back, fire with fire, ya know.
Why is it ok for them to attack me, but I do it and Oh boy...

So yes, let us have a thread where men can debate like men, not like children on a playground.

Let us just lay facts side by side, leaving out feelings and all politics.

Just the facts nothing more.
Yea, I can get behind that.

I don't think that they want to play that way......

At 50 seconds she says the virus evolved from SARS "within a decade".

We know conclusively from genetic sequencing that this virus did not evolve from SARS.

I asked for a better explanation as to why he stated this?
It was ignored.

Why is it called SARS-CoV-2 virus, the causative agent of COVID-19
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/de...g-of-bodies-or-persons-dying-from-COVID19.pdf

This was a link provided by him.
I am just looking for answers.

May I ask nicely?
What did you come away with after his conversation?
Did he provide you with any answers?

 

[shaggyballs]

I feel the need to clear the air.

What you are referring to as spam is me asking the same question 10 times.
All 10 times it was ignored.

The question makes a statement that shows human intervention.
There are pieces missing.
The virus can not make an evolutionary jump skipping steps.
Those missing step do not exist.
If this is true, then he is wrong.

He will never admit that.
The spam as you call it, in reality could be the smoking gun.
Thanks for your time

Peace
Shag

 

[Klompen]

So the man literally standing next to the president and giving medical advice through this whole crisis seems to be the very man who conspired with his Chinese counterparts to run an extremely dangerous gain-of-function bat virus study. So both countries are trying to start crap with each other when in fact they created this as a team. It may have been an accident, but their exploitation of this crisis is certainly no accident. I can't believe how blind Republicans and Democrats can become when its "their guy" in charge.

 

[flylowgethigh]

No mask foochie needs to spend the rest of his life in prison IMO.

 

[Dropped Cat]

You arguments are like an empty box.
There is nothing fucking in there...LOL

All opinion and feelings.
Leave politics out of this discussion.
It really is a problem, it just gets in the way.
Come on back an present some facts.
Or stand on the sideline spewing hot air, if that gets you off.

Link to the genome sequence:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/NC_045512

You can tell that the sequence shows no human manipulation.

But you should social distance and wear a mask, better safe than sorry.

And don't have sex with a corpse, as you may contract some nasties.

 

[gaiusmarius]

Ok, I will back off a bit.
To avoid the clutter I had separate thread for every topic.
But that is just crazy talk, organized threads to stay on topic.
Off topic posts could be deleted.
I would love to have a thread that stayed on topic and had proper moderation.
Delete all off topic posts, as long as everyone is equal.

I have tried to take one issue at a time.
My first question for chimera was totally ignored.
Then he call my links trash without providing anything himself.
So I got off topic.

What real info did he provide to us?
I was not able to get any facts from him only opinion.
When I asked for a man to man rational debate.
I got personal attacks, so I attacked back, fire with fire, ya know.
Why is it ok for them to attack me, but I do it and Oh boy...

So yes, let us have a thread where men can debate like men, not like children on a playground.

Let us just lay facts side by side, leaving out feelings and all politics.

Just the facts nothing more.
Yea, I can get behind that.

I don't think that they want to play that way......



I asked for a better explanation as to why he stated this?
It was ignored.

Why is it called SARS-CoV-2 virus, the causative agent of COVID-19
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/de...g-of-bodies-or-persons-dying-from-COVID19.pdf

This was a link provided by him.
I am just looking for answers.

May I ask nicely?
What did you come away with after his conversation?
Did he provide you with any answers?

in the end participation is voluntary and no one ows anyone an answer. folks post what they want and the readers make up their own minds. trying to somehow be right or win at all costs shouldn't be the objective. new info should always be digested and used to re evaluate.

if you feel a link or post wasn't accounted for, just link the post or something, no need to keep reposting stuff. challenging people. post your info and let it stand. i get that you are convinced about the bio weapons lab leak aspect, but i'm not convinced. what did i get from Chimera? the impression that he knows more then i on the subject, but also can't be 100% sure. in the end, even if it's a naturally occuring virus, that doesnt nagate it getting accidentally released somehow. what we need is scientists to go out in the caves near wuhan and start collecting samples to see if it's present in the wild bat population which it should be if it's natural.

 

[TNTBudSticker]

Corona Virus could be a gay Disease.

It is sexual transmittable.59 men tested,13% had virus is sperm.

Everyone on lockdown but who is having all that sex?

 

[shaggyballs]

Link to the genome sequence:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/NC_045512

You can tell that the sequence shows human manipulation.

 

[shaggyballs]

in the end participation is voluntary and no one ows anyone an answer. folks post what they want and the readers make up their own minds. trying to somehow be right or win at all costs shouldn't be the objective. new info should always be digested and used to re evaluate.

if you feel a link or post wasn't accounted for, just link the post or something, no need to keep reposting stuff. challenging people. post your info and let it stand. i get that you are convinced about the bio weapons lab leak aspect, but i'm not convinced. what did i get from Chimera? the impression that he knows more then i on the subject, but also can't be 100% sure. in the end, even if it's a naturally occuring virus, that doesnt nagate it getting accidentally released somehow. what we need is scientists to go out in the caves near wuhan and start collecting samples to see if it's present in the wild bat population which it should be if it's natural.

Nope nothing is owed I agree.
I was not trying to say anything was owed.
It is clear he came here to agitate me, if you can not see that??
Winning and being right does not matter to me, I have said this over and over.
I could care less if I am right.
I seek the truth, I have said that over and over too.
I don't have a problem with being wrong, I am human.
I make mistakes all the time, no big deal to me.
I am up for confirmed info.
Just not, because I said so.

When you state someone is wrong.
Should you not back up your statement?
Talk is cheap.
If feel the accuser, at least owes an explanation as to why he thinks that person or statement is wrong.
It is just the right thing to do.
That is all I was trying to say.

If my question does not prove he is wrong.
Why did he not simply answer the question?
Why all the drama, just answer a simple question.
Seems easier than starting all that drama.

 

[shaggyballs]

At 50 seconds she says the virus evolved from SARS "within a decade".

We know conclusively from genetic sequencing that this virus did not evolve from SARS.

So, we know she's wrong about that 100%. Sounds to me like she needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

I realize you see a conspiracy everywhere you look and tbh I'm not going to debate with you, just leave info for people with open minds to consider.

I'm old enough to realize that you can't rid the world of fools believing nonsense spewed by Chimera, so fill yer boots

From : https://nextstrain.org/

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M.I.T. PHD says Chimera is spreading misinformation.
I think we need to take what he says with a grain of salt.
As he suggests we should leave this for people with open minds to consider.

Covid is so close to sars 1 they call it sars 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=junMJFK6ddc