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Water-
"the strains are US creations"
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Montuno,
I think he meant legal climate not weather.
peace
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Montuno,
I think he meant legal climate not weather.
peace
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Why do the most popular varieties come from American breeders?
- Thread starter Burro Johnson
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Montuno
...como el Son...
This thread is about AMERICAN BREEDERS so I listed what I believe to be at the top.
If you're NOT using American genetics You have ZERO say in the matter.
Hi; Im not agree: a lot of great strains have any USA genetics, like Destroyer, Panamá, Durban Punch, Golden Tiger, Guawi, Double Jam, Double Thai, Double Congo, Double Zamal, ColJam, White Widow, Reina Madre aka Queen Mother, Taskenti, Red Snake, Zamaldelica...,etc...
Salud.
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A little harsh.
The thread technically is asking why varieties from American breeders are so popular so yeah obviously the genetics behind the end product plays a major part in it but is far from being the sole reason.
Again technically the seed & cannabis trade started way before America was born, way before cannabis was demonized & outlawed. America certainly kick started the most recent iteration of the seed & weed industry.
Cannabis used to be legal around the world in many countries including in the UK as was opium, heroin & cocaine. No one knows exactly when cannabis seeds first started being traded.
In the grand scheme of things it means bugger all really. In 15 years time Iran could be the weed capital of the world. They're certainly gearing up for it.
Maybe we'll have threads by members from Iran in 15 years taking credit for the whole shebang.
G `day PDX
Never forget where the home of Hollywood is .
Thanks for sharin
EB .
Montuno
...como el Son...
Thousand thaxs to help me with the English (mine is more rusted than a Somalian cargo's ship)!
Salud!
PD: Btw, when they sais "American" here are meaning in fact "from USA, not? Thanks again.
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I have no idea what he or anybody else means by American.
I kind of think of North America as being one package, so to speak.
(im british but live in the US)
the pacific northwest of North America, starting in Oregon and including Vancouver Canada is kind of considered the same cultural zone and there was a good deal of cross border trade in seeds and clones over the years.
Im not sure but it seems like people think of Canada as as not being much of anything other than that cold place to north where the nice people live.
peace
Give it up. California has always produced the best before people even knew what og or sour was. Trainwreck anyone?
The genes originated outside the US, but the strains are US creations, just as the Phenos that emerged of Skunk 1 in the UK are British!
Am funny coming from the guy that thinks Chimera is one of the best American breedershe Canadian , clueless numpty
Cheese is a skunk 1 pheno. It was brought to holland by sam the skunkman from Commufornia. How is that not American genetics? Im signin off before i get banned.
Fucking geniuses.
insomniac_AU
Active member
Is this really worth arguing about? All that matters is cannabis is being bred somewhere. I really don't care where that is. Honestly I can't think of a better country to get behind and drive cannabis research and breeding. The US has the money, resources and population to do more than any other country could.
Emperortaima
Namekian resident/farmer
My personal favorite/inspirational breeder's from the US are
1)Jaws
2)Bodhi
3)Riot
4)the REVski
5) Obsoul33t
But this list is just my opinion of who are the greatest North American cannabis breeders
But greatest is only perception so remember that
1)Jaws
2)Bodhi
3)Riot
4)the REVski
5) Obsoul33t
But this list is just my opinion of who are the greatest North American cannabis breeders
But greatest is only perception so remember that
jaypopnseeds
Member
I tend to agree. I’m not sure why this thread keeps turning into an argument. I have myself,as have others on multiple occasions on this thread given props to American breeder’s past & present. I’ve gone as far as blowing a little excess smoke up the backside of the American cannabis industry but some people here seem to be stuck on autopilot & keep missing all the positive & just focus on the random slightly negative comments that pop up. Those comments could just be ignored by being the bigger person or they could question the reason behind those views but sometimes I guess its easier for some to revert to the old AMERICA F*CK YEAH mentality.
Please note, I said “some”. I’ve spoken to many Americans over the years & the vast majority do not fit the America f*ck yeah stereotype. I only ever see that stereotype rearing its ugly head on this forum.
Makes me wonder if after full scale legalization when America no longer has the monopoly we see posts on the forum complaining that other countries “TOOK OUR JOBS”.
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metsäkana
where i can pick n mix there expensive hype packs?
Don't forget balls....
As in any industry.....Supply and Demand....
There has been a great demand for drug cultivar varieties of cannabis for at least 100 years in the USA, probably much longer if you start taking apart the constituents of what North American Indians have put in their peace pipes for hundreds of years...
As the industry has developed stateside Americans have taken advantage of the space and good climates they have to grow outstanding cannabis outdoors and they wanted variety, as in most every product variety is the spice of life, particularly when the home-indoor growing revolution started to take off in the 1980's and 90's, so most breeders looked to be creating plants that yielded well, with short flowering stages and with particular flavors/bouquets that would give the 'erb 'Bag Appeal'....to supply the burgeoning indoor cultivation revolution as well as the ever-growing outdoor demand for new and interesting cultivars in seed form.
The demand for good sensimilla (un-seeded bud) grew exponentially during the 1980's/90's - thru to the present, and with more demand for varied cannabis for consumption a multitude of new hybrids and some in-bred lines have been created over the years to try to supply the almost insatiable demand within the USA, while other areas of the world were relying on imported cannabis 'erb or resin or just beginning to develop their own herbal cannabis industries.
The legal situation, on the state level in many US states now helps to encourage the cannabis industry there to flourish more than it ever did for 80+ years, and as the years go by it looks to be accepting a legal cannabis industry which is producing many different cannabis products as well as allowing cannabis breeders to practice their craft in peace, and without the risk of legal intervention in what they do.......so they can work without the risk of persecution and/or prosecution to try and create something special, something new that might titillate your taste-buds.... few European breeders can grow and breed in a carefree legal environment like that...at present.
So when asked 'Why do most popular varieties come from American breeders'.....I would say that its all about the supply keeping up with the demand......and there is a greater demand in the USA for new and exciting varieties of cannabis than in any other country out there.
There has been a great demand for drug cultivar varieties of cannabis for at least 100 years in the USA, probably much longer if you start taking apart the constituents of what North American Indians have put in their peace pipes for hundreds of years...
As the industry has developed stateside Americans have taken advantage of the space and good climates they have to grow outstanding cannabis outdoors and they wanted variety, as in most every product variety is the spice of life, particularly when the home-indoor growing revolution started to take off in the 1980's and 90's, so most breeders looked to be creating plants that yielded well, with short flowering stages and with particular flavors/bouquets that would give the 'erb 'Bag Appeal'....to supply the burgeoning indoor cultivation revolution as well as the ever-growing outdoor demand for new and interesting cultivars in seed form.
The demand for good sensimilla (un-seeded bud) grew exponentially during the 1980's/90's - thru to the present, and with more demand for varied cannabis for consumption a multitude of new hybrids and some in-bred lines have been created over the years to try to supply the almost insatiable demand within the USA, while other areas of the world were relying on imported cannabis 'erb or resin or just beginning to develop their own herbal cannabis industries.
The legal situation, on the state level in many US states now helps to encourage the cannabis industry there to flourish more than it ever did for 80+ years, and as the years go by it looks to be accepting a legal cannabis industry which is producing many different cannabis products as well as allowing cannabis breeders to practice their craft in peace, and without the risk of legal intervention in what they do.......so they can work without the risk of persecution and/or prosecution to try and create something special, something new that might titillate your taste-buds.... few European breeders can grow and breed in a carefree legal environment like that...at present.
So when asked 'Why do most popular varieties come from American breeders'.....I would say that its all about the supply keeping up with the demand......and there is a greater demand in the USA for new and exciting varieties of cannabis than in any other country out there.
udontknowme
Member
Is cannabis native to the US? No it's not so the genetics came from elsewhere, the strains were created in the US and brought to Europe, i said Cheese was a British strain not that it was British genetics.
Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension before you start calling people geniuses.
If i grow fucking blue berry in mexico does,that make it mexican? If i find a pheno of it i peru does that make it peruvian?
Try logic before insulting my reading comprehension, which I admit is 3rd grade,at best. Certainly not on your level.
You are talking of land races now. How does that compare to a bred variety?
Try logic before insulting my reading comprehension, which I admit is 3rd grade,at best. Certainly not on your level.
You are talking of land races now. How does that compare to a bred variety?
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Is cannabis native to the US? No it's not so the genetics came from elsewhere, the strains were created in the US and brought to Europe, i said Cheese was a British strain not that it was British genetics.
Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension before you start calling people geniuses.
you need to look up the definition of the word strain in relation to biology.
