Wearing Masks

[armedoldhippy]

remember we have a top health care system and every single resident of Switzerland is legally obliged to be fully insured, so our death rate is low.

"legally obliged to be fully insured"...hmmm...that sounds like something the GOP would fight to the death! because muh freedom!

 

[xavier7995]

Cancel culture sure sucks huh

 

[aridbud]

i know you mean well, but its actually against the rules to keep spamming the same post. maybe you could put it in your sig instead?

To be clear, the science supports using masks, with recent studies suggesting that they could save lives in different ways: research shows that they cut down the chances of both transmitting and catching the coronavirus, and some studies hint that masks might reduce the severity of infection if people do contract the disease.

It can't be said enough!!

addendum: We can't enter a store unless a mask is worn.
Outside/In Public: Masks, Outdoor dining: Masks, unless eating/drinking.
Exercising outside: Mask (Preferable)

 

[gaiusmarius]

This comes down to a matter of perspective.
I could just as honestly complain that almost each of your posts have taken the thread off topic.
From there, it is a small step to ask you modify your content to both accommodate me, and to bring your posting into compliance.

Would just as soon drop the issue, rather than roll it down the road with our noses.

2. Duplicate/Repetitive Postings: Duplicate postings with identical or similar text are not allowed. Duplicate postings will be removed.

i thought putting it in your sig would be even more effective and wouldn't run afoul of the above rule. but i guess i was wrong.

 

[gaiusmarius]

"legally obliged to be fully insured"...hmmm...that sounds like something the GOP would fight to the death! because muh freedom!

so? its a great system, every nation should do something like it. maybe cut out some of those insurance companies to bring costs down, but yeah i love my health insurance. i didnt need it for years now, but when its perfect, not a penny of money is needed to get your treatment. you then have to pay 10% of the bill up to a certain amount depending on your monthly premium. but yeah its very comforting to know and there is no way insurers can deny claims, nor can they refuse to insure any resident. but yeah its a decent chunk of money every fucking month. healthy are subsidizing the health care of the sick. so its a bit of communism, but good type of communism imo.

 

['Boogieman']

but yeah its a decent chunk of money every fucking month. healthy are subsidizing the health care of the sick. so its a bit of communism, but good type of communism imo.

Do you have the option to opt out and keep your money? I really don't want to live so long I just piss my pants and drool. If you opt out you shouldn't be taxed for others health care as well.

 

[unclefishstick]

Do you have the option to opt out and keep your money? I really don't want to live so long I just piss my pants and drool. If you opt out you shouldn't be taxed for others health care as well.

lol,spoken like a youngster!

 

[Tudo]

Protesters cut locks on Williamsburg playgrounds, kids play, violating shutdown rules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0grZGZXhUQ

Oh it's going to be a heck of a season coming up, a heck of a season I tell ya:

Police Arrest Anti-Lockdown Protest Leader In New York's Orthodox Jewish Community

A leader of protests against coronavirus restrictions in New York's Jewish Orthodox community has been arrested on charges of inciting a riot and unlawful imprisonment of a journalist, according to police.
Harold "Heshy" Tischler, an activist in the city's Orthodox Jewish neighborhood of Borough Park, was taken into custody Sunday following an Oct. 7 protest against limits on the number of worshippers in synagogues.
In a video from the protest posted to social media, a maskless Tischler and others are seen encircling and screaming at Jacob Kornbluh, a journalist for Jewish Insider who has reported on the resistance to the COVID-19 restrictions. Kornbluh also claims he was kicked by the crowd.
VIDEO AND MORE:

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...-leader-in-new-yorks-orthodox-jewish-communit
https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...-leader-in-new-yorks-orthodox-jewish-communit

 

[gaiusmarius]

Do you have the option to opt out and keep your money? I really don't want to live so long I just piss my pants and drool. If you opt out you shouldn't be taxed for others health care as well.

no you don't get to opt out, but you get to choose cheaper plans with more self participation of costs if something were to happen and you need it. but no opt out, as you will end up costing the system anyway sooner or later and they don't want to be stuck with the bill. that just ups the cost for the rest

to be honest im not even sure how its enforced, we look a it as a no brainer. no one is against having it. once you have it, you can't imagine living without, specially not with the prices you are talking about for medical treatment.

 

[Zeez]

remember we have a top health care system and every single resident of Switzerland is legally obliged to be fully insured, so our death rate is low.

You live in Switzerland?

 

[Microbeman]

no you don't get to opt out, but you get to choose cheaper plans with more self participation of costs if something were to happen and you need it. but no opt out, as you will end up costing the system anyway sooner or later and they don't want to be stuck with the bill. that just ups the cost for the rest

to be honest im not even sure how its enforced, we look a it as a no brainer. no one is against having it. once you have it, you can't imagine living without, specially not with the prices you are talking about for medical treatment.

Similar to British Columbia but the monthly premium cost is based on your income. Nobody pays any of the cost of treatment.

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

“It is important to note that detecting viral material by PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. The isolation of infectious virus from positive individuals requires virus culture methods. These methods can only be conducted in laboratories with specialist containment facilities and are time consuming and complex.”


from some article someone posted back a few pages about the inventor of the pcr not saying whatever quote they are passing around on facebook.

Is this the quote you were talking about?:

• Dr Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel prize for inventing PCR to detect HIV, explains its limitations—why the PCR is not especially diagnostic, for HIV or for anything else:

“Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron. PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral-load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV."




here's a couple resources:


https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27...hb9hIrW_ERjypeDi31RlsdRv8BakgNyos8pJExvCuBUQ8
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/

 

[h.h.]

“It is important to note that detecting viral material by PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. The isolation of infectious virus from positive individuals requires virus culture methods. These methods can only be conducted in laboratories with specialist containment facilities and are time consuming and complex.”


from some article someone posted back a few pages about the inventor of the pcr not saying whatever quote they are passing around on facebook.

Is this the quote you were talking about?:

• Dr Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel prize for inventing PCR to detect HIV, explains its limitations—why the PCR is not especially diagnostic, for HIV or for anything else:

“Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron. PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral-load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV."




here's a couple resources:


https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27...hb9hIrW_ERjypeDi31RlsdRv8BakgNyos8pJExvCuBUQ8
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/

“Believed”, based on evidence. “In some cases wrongly”, yet more often right.

 

[oldschoolnitro]

“It is important to note that detecting viral material by PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. The isolation of infectious virus from positive individuals requires virus culture methods. These methods can only be conducted in laboratories with specialist containment facilities and are time consuming and complex.”


from some article someone posted back a few pages about the inventor of the pcr not saying whatever quote they are passing around on facebook.

Is this the quote you were talking about?:

• Dr Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel prize for inventing PCR to detect HIV, explains its limitations—why the PCR is not especially diagnostic, for HIV or for anything else:

“Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron. PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral-load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV."




here's a couple resources:


https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27...hb9hIrW_ERjypeDi31RlsdRv8BakgNyos8pJExvCuBUQ8
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/

Its all a big fake !!! A corporate/political group wants to destroy the American election system and Covid19 is the tool they plan to use

 

[Microbeman]

“It is important to note that detecting viral material by PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. The isolation of infectious virus from positive individuals requires virus culture methods. These methods can only be conducted in laboratories with specialist containment facilities and are time consuming and complex.”


from some article someone posted back a few pages about the inventor of the pcr not saying whatever quote they are passing around on facebook.

Is this the quote you were talking about?:

• Dr Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel prize for inventing PCR to detect HIV, explains its limitations—why the PCR is not especially diagnostic, for HIV or for anything else:

“Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron. PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral-load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV."




here's a couple resources:


https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27...hb9hIrW_ERjypeDi31RlsdRv8BakgNyos8pJExvCuBUQ8
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/

I did not find such a statement by Mullis in your links. Here is an actual interview with him.
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/25900-interview-transcript-1993/

I'm not saying that others do not criticize PCR

 

[mr.brunch]

This thread seems to be slightly broken... can’t access by new posts/my posts

 

[h.h.]

This thread seems to be slightly broken... can’t access by new posts/my posts

“Too many HTTP redirects “

 

[gaiusmarius]

Similar to British Columbia but the monthly premium cost is based on your income. Nobody pays any of the cost of treatment.

here the poor get it subsidized, even if you are broke and homeless you still have health insurance and even the 10% gets covered by the state in those cases.

also that 10% is only up to a certain amount per year. once the costs get above that the insurance covers it all. depending how high you will pay the 10% your self, the lower your monthly premium.

 

[Hammerhead]

When we get seriously sick not many can afford to get any treatments the Dr recommend. This year 2 of the women I grew up with got diagnosed with Leukemia. 1 has passed, the other just started chemo. Neither could afford it. Both had to setup a go fund me page. For us we don't have much of a choice. We can go bankrupt as we die or just die.

 

[Horselover Fat]

When we get seriously sick not many can afford to get any treatments the Dr recommend. This year 2 of the women I grew up with got diagnosed with Leukemia. 1 has passed, the other just started chemo. Neither could afford it. Both had to setup a go fund me page. For us we don't have much of a choice. We can go bankrupt as we die or just die.

That's horrrible. Here you pay taxes and health care is essentially free. You do pay a little, but the sums are very small and if you're unemployed or what ever it's free of charge. Drugs are subsidized anyway and if you end up having to pay 600€(?) per year the rest of your drugs will be free of charge.