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moose eater

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B-2 stealth bomber damaged in Missouri emergency landing​


Take a peek at the historical failings of the coveted F-35, and the price tag on an aircraft that initially performed extremely poorly in cold weather (so they decided to park a bunch of them here in the sub-arctic to bolster nat'l security in re. to Russia), and for which pilots complained early on about difficulties with visual targeting from the cockpit, among other short-comings.

"War is a racket!" (Smedley Butler)
 

dramamine

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Take a peek at the historical failings of the coveted F-35, and the price tag on an aircraft that initially performed extremely poorly in cold weather (so they decided to park a bunch of them here in the sub-arctic to bolster nat'l security in re. to Russia), and for which pilots complained early on about difficulties with visual targeting from the cockpit, among other short-comings.

"War is a racket!" (Smedley Butler)
Yes. Hard not see that as simple money laundering. The US economy starts to resemble a "bust out" operation, a la the restaurant in Goodfellas.
 

moose eater

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Yes. Hard not see that as simple money laundering. The US economy starts to resemble a "bust out" operation, a la the restaurant in Goodfellas.
Our Borough Assembly spent over a quarter-million dollars of local property owners' tax money, and applied for permission to use another quarter-million, purposed for wining and dining DoD folks to get a decision that would land us a group of aircraft, pilots, support teams and families into what would come to be tax-free/tax-reduced housing around North Pole, Alaska, due to the Borough's awareness of the gift such a placement would provide to the local economy. (Meanwhile I'm paying somewhere near 18.5 mils on my property taxes).

They craftily side-stepped direct questions about their interests having nothing to do with actual national security and everything to do with who presented the nicest, biggest, bestest perks and 'glory hounding' praise for the military.

These are the people we trust to make strategic decisions about our security and defenses.

Coincidentally (sarcasm), Eielson Air Base had been slated to be closed at least two times in recent history preceding those 'negotiations', which was narrowly averted each time, and was saved by the F-35 decision, after they had already planned for and begun phasing out the F-16s that were there previously.

The loss of one cash cow replaced by another... What our National Defense systems -really- dance to.
 

mean mr.mustard

I Pass Satellites
Veteran
Yes. Hard not see that as simple money laundering. The US economy starts to resemble a "bust out" operation, a la the restaurant in Goodfellas.

Meanwhile in an alternate universe...

Our workers and the ability of our best funded (by far) industry are just sinking like a stone due to incompetence and confidence (a condition I propose naming "Trumpishness").

I giggle thinking about how many conspiracy theorists grant multiple idiots the ability to compose and execute grand plans while the average IQ is plummeting and has been for some time.

There's a bunch of money called our defense budget and a metric fuck ton of morons wanting a piece.

Don't expect Ocean's Eleven from our military.

You can't be disappointed.
 

buzzmobile

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Veteran
There's a bunch of money called our defense budget and a metric fuck ton of morons wanting a piece.
Tyndall is home to 55 F-22 stealth fighters, which cost a dizzying $339 million each. Before the storm, the Air Force sent at least 33 of the fighters to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio.

Air Force officials have not disclosed the whereabouts of the remaining 22 planes, other than to say that a number of aircraft were left at the base because of maintenance or safety reasons.


And now 5 years later...

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xtsho

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B-2 stealth bomber damaged in Missouri emergency landing​



The B2 still has a very good record considering it flew it's first combat mission in 1999. It's a very impressive piece of technology. The B21 Raider is even more advanced.

There's also the F-35 Lightning which is impressive as well.

 

EastCoastGambit

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This is sick. It echos some of the sentiment I read on Reddit regarding the war this weekend. What a toxic forum that place is.

It is unreal how conflict addicted some people have become. It appears all they want to do is cheer-lead for death and destruction.

This is a social ill and probably conditioned into the younger generations by those military sponsored 1st person shooter games such as COD and MW. Sure those games can be fun, but as you can see, in some individuals it creates blood lust and conditions a desensitization to the human condition and sanctity of life.
 

moose eater

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The B2 still has a very good record considering it flew it's first combat mission in 1999. It's a very impressive piece of technology. The B21 Raider is even more advanced.

There's also the F-35 Lightning which is impressive as well.


You might want to take a closer look at some of the F-35's failures.
 

Brother Nature

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This is sick. It echos some of the sentiment I read on Reddit regarding the war this weekend. What a toxic forum that place is.

It is unreal how conflict addicted some people have become. It appears all they want to do is cheer-lead for death and destruction.

This is a social ill and probably conditioned into the younger generations by those military sponsored 1st person shooter games such as COD and MW. Sure those games can be fun, but as you can see, in some individuals it creates blood lust and conditions a desensitization to the human condition and sanctity of life.
It's a pretty tired argument that video games cause violence, but they are definitely being used as propaganda for the military industrial complex. We have ex NSA and CIA personnel in executive positions in the companies that develop those video games. There is a reason the enemies are always Russian or Arabic or Latin and the focus tends to be on US military might and technology.

Also, the younger generation talking this shit online have mostly not experienced physical repercussions for talking shit. When you associate shit talking with getting your ass beat, you think about it in a different way. I have a half brother, 19 now, him nor any of his friends have been in a physical fight in their lives. That's not a bad thing really, fighting sucks, but it does teach you a valuable lesson when you loose.
 

xtsho

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You might want to take a closer look at some of the F-35's failures.

There was a crash just last September. 29 crashes in 17 years for 750,000 flying hours. These weapons programs are dynamic with constant changes and improvements being implemented. Despite any failures it's still the most advanced fighter aircraft deployed at scale in the world. There's close to 1000 in service.
 

moose eater

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There was a crash just last September. 29 crashes in 17 years for 750,000 flying hours. These weapons programs are dynamic with constant changes and improvements being implemented. Despite any failures it's still the most advanced fighter aircraft deployed at scale in the world. There's close to 1000 in service.
I was specifically referring to failures of turbines and equipment in cold weather (not an arctic aircraft at the time they were placing them up here), and pilots' complaints about poor visuals from the cockpit in targeting.
They were an economic boom to the local money pit, and little more up here at that time.

Look into the hundreds of thousands spent by the Fairbanks North Star Borough in romancing the DoD to put them up in the Interior of Alaska (far more extreme cold than Los Anchorage), despite our being much further from the Coast than the joint air base/army base JBER near Anchorage.

DoD runs a money game. Performance and functionality come second to kick-backs and profiteering.

From Reagan's Star Wars Program to the Blackhawks, to the early M-16s, they have often produced high-dollar garbage and corrected it later after loss of life.
 

xtsho

Well-known member
It's a pretty tired argument that video games cause violence, but they are definitely being used as propaganda for the military industrial complex. We have ex NSA and CIA personnel in executive positions in the companies that develop those video games. There is a reason the enemies are always Russian or Arabic or Latin and the focus tends to be on US military might and technology.

Also, the younger generation talking this shit online have mostly not experienced physical repercussions for talking shit. When you associate shit talking with getting your ass beat, you think about it in a different way. I have a half brother, 19 now, him nor any of his friends have been in a physical fight in their lives. That's not a bad thing really, fighting sucks, but it does teach you a valuable lesson when you loose.

Everybody's a tough guy online. I remember before the internet if you were going to talk shit it had to be in person. There are no repercussions when talking anonymously to people you don't know and may live thousands of miles away from.

These days though ass beatings are a thing of the past. Now people don't even fight. They just pull out a gun and start shooting. So it's probably best if you're going to talk shit to do it online even if you're tough enough to avoid an actual ass beating.
 

xtsho

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I was specifically referring to failures of turbines and equipment in cold weather (not an arctic aircraft at the time they were placing them up here), and pilots' complaints about poor visuals from the cockpit in targeting.
They were an economic boom to the local money pit, and little more up here at that time.

Look into the hundreds of thousands spent by the Fairbanks North Star Borough in romancing the DoD to put them up in the Interior of Alaska (far more extreme cold than Los Anchorage), despite our being much further from the Coast than the joint air base/army base JBER near Anchorage.

DoD runs a money game. Performance and functionality come second to kick-backs and profiteering.

From Reagan's Star Wars Program to the Blackhawks, to the early M-16s, they have often produced high-dollar garbage and corrected it later after loss of life.

It's all about profit. Everyone has their hand out wanting some of the money. That's never going to change.
 

Roms

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There's also the F-35 Lightning which is impressive as well.

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F-35 fighter jet crash in South China Sea accidentally captured on video

by Avia.pro.

US sailors accidentally film the crash of an F-35 fighter jet.

The crash of a fifth-generation US F-35 fighter jet in the South China Sea was accidentally caught on camera by a carrier crew member's mobile phone. The video images revealed the cause of this disaster and are likely to have a very serious impact on the future operation of the fifth generation American combat aircraft.

The video shows the American fighter turning and landing. The pilot lost speed too quickly, while the bridge was still far enough away, and when he attempted a second approach, the fighter engine simply could not develop the necessary thrust.

It is remarkable that the version about the failure of the fighter systems appeared a few hours after the incident. Additionally, it has been claimed that the pilot may have been misinformed of the flight altitude. This does not exclude interference in the fighter's systems by electronic warfare systems, especially since the crash occurred near Chinese military bases in the Paracel Islands.

Currently, the United States is trying to carry out an operation to recover the sunken F-35 fighter, but the United States Navy does not have the necessary equipment.

source: https://avia.pro
 
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