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GenghisKush

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For the record: I want the state of Israel to continue to exist; this makes me a Zionist.
A year ago I would not have agreed to that label. Now I do.

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P.S. There is no death penalty in Israel and Palestinian activists in Israel are not being "executed [maybe] on the spot." That is a deranged fantasy.


Whether or not Israel has a death penalty is of consequence only in Israel.


That list has 29 entries, all of which correspond to events outside of Israel in Gaza or the West Bank, where Hamas or the PA govern.

Activists in Israel who advocate for Palestinian causes are not being executed "on the spot." My claim stands.
 
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moose eater

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AMP Extends Condolences to Zarefah Baroud for the Loss of Her Aunt, Dr. Soma Baroud, as UN Report Exposes Systematic Targeting of Gaza’s Health Sector​

[WASHINGTON D.C., October 11, 2024] - We are deeply saddened to announce the tragic news that on Wednesday, October 9th, Israeli forces targeted and killed Dr. Soma Baroud while she was in a taxi in Khan Younis, Gaza. Dr. Baroud was the sister of renowned author and journalist Dr. Ramzy Baroud and the aunt of our colleague, Digital Media Associate Zarefah Baroud.

Dr. Baroud was a prominent Obstetrician-Gynecologist in Gaza who dedicated herself to serving women and those in need across the Strip. Dr. Baroud worked at the now-destroyed Al-Shifa and Nasser Hospitals and ran her own medical clinic in Al-Qarara prior to the genocide. Even prior to the genocide, Dr. Baroud was compelled by her urge to help others and did not charge the poor, doing what she could to heal those victimized by occupation and genocide.

Dr. Baroud now joins her husband, Dr. Hamdi Baroud, who was killed by Israeli forces in January of this year while in Khan Younis. Prior to her passing, Dr. Baroud found herself displaced, like 1.9 million other Palestinians in Gaza, in the last months of her life before she was killed by a US-backed Israeli airstrike on her taxi.

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Israel’s targeting of Dr. Baroud came one day before the United Nations Independent International Commission of Inquiry announced an investigative report accusing Israel of “committing war crimes and the crime against humanity of extermination with relentless and deliberate attacks on medical personnel and facilities.” The report provides evidence of Israel engaging in a concerted effort to undermine, attack, and destroy the healthcare infrastructure of Palestinians in Gaza. Such crimes are severe violations of international human rights, United States law, and basic human morality.

We use this moment to reflect on the service of Dr. Baroud and the 165 other doctors murdered by Israel in the midst of this ongoing genocide and call on the Biden administration to cease providing weapons to Israel and stop this senseless violence. We honor the lives of all Palestinian martyrs taken by the Israeli apartheid regime—those who perished in the last year and over the past 76 years—whose courage and sacrifice endure as a testament to the relentless pursuit of justice and freedom for Palestine.

Sincerely,
American Muslims for Palestine
 

GenghisKush

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To be clear:

Palestinian peace and nonviolence activists in Gaza are (as a matter of course) informed on by so-called journalists for the crime of "normalization" of relations between people in Israel and people in Gaza.

This is not journalism, but instead making oneself a voluntary agent of oppression.



 

JKD

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moose eater

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Look up anti-Semitic, anti-Zionist, anti-settler colonialism, anti-apartheid. Consider why the definitions are not the same.
Rob seems to play intentionally dense through over-generalization (to the point of absurdity) for sake of effect. Either that or he's an idiot who can't reconcile the broad chasm that exists between the incongruent concepts he attempts to merge that are uniquely separate and different.

Unfortunately, such attributes can be found in far too many US voters.
 

GenghisKush

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lol really? were still posting protocols in 2024?
Hamas is relevant, so discussing this silly forgery is relevant, too.

No one forced Hamas to base their whole reason for being on the proposition that the so-called Protocols are genuine. They volunteered it.

In fact, they volunteer this claim in the very same paragraph where they describe this "Greater Israel" conspiracy theory that you have been promoting, in this thread.

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The Islamic Resistance Movement calls on Arab and Islamic nations to take up the line of serious and persevering action to prevent the success of this horrendous plan, to warn the people of the danger eminating from leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism. Today it is Palestine, tomorrow it will be one country or another. The Zionist plan is limitless. After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying.
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peace isn't an option when the stated policy of israel is to expel everyone from the land and expand the settlements into the remaining occupied territories and into greater israel.
It's looking more and more like they false flagged those people to steal the rest of the country and to expand into Jordan and elsewhere for the 'greater Israel's project.

How is Israel's expansion into Jordan going, BTW?
 

mean mr.mustard

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Rob seems to play intentionally dense through over-generalization (to the point of absurdity) for sake of effect. Either that or he's an idiot who can't reconcile the broad chasm that exists between the incongruent concepts he attempts to merge that are uniquely separate and different.

Unfortunately, such attributes can be found in far too many US voters.

It's silly to think that someone is bereft of the distinction between those titles.

Some people really get off on calling others idiots.

Meanwhile, others just get called names because they notice people hiding behind calling others names they could be called.
 

RobFromTX

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Rob seems to play intentionally dense through over-generalization (to the point of absurdity) for sake of effect. Either that or he's an idiot who can't reconcile the broad chasm that exists between the incongruent concepts he attempts to merge that are uniquely separate and different.

Unfortunately, such attributes can be found in far too many US voters.
Well thank god we have reasonable people like you that can see the light of truth and righteousness😅

I just don't have this hater-in-denial syndrome that some of you have. You rotate between calm periods of protesting genocide and doing away with the apartheid aka lets get rid of Israel

and lets not bullshit ourselves on how you mean that either
 

moose eater

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Well thank god we have reasonable people like you that can see the light of truth and righteousness😅

I just don't have this hater-in-denial syndrome that some of you have. You rotate between calm periods of protesting genocide and doing away with the apartheid aka lets get rid of Israel

and lets not bullshit ourselves on how you mean that either
No, you just coincidentally miss the mark as to what it is people are justifiably hating... seemingly on purpose... unless you're simply that fucking dense.

Unlike yourself, some off us take umbrage at serial mass murderers and the faux righteous criminals behind it..

'Reasonable' includes stopping murderers and land thieves, not sending them more bombs.
 
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