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ButterflyEffect
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sounds like someone is in trouble for telling lies to power, who expected truth...
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What is a false flag attack: what the accusations of the use of chemical weapons between Russia and the US hide:
The crossed accusations of biological attacks in the making between the United States and Russia suggest that a "false flag operation" is coming. Russia has been talking for months about the alleged existence of US biological weapons on Ukrainian soil.
The alert comes after controversial statements by the White House spokeswoman, Jen Psaki, on March 9, in a statement via Twitter .
"Now that Russia has made these false accusations, and China appears to have endorsed such propaganda, we should all be vigilant about the possibility of Russia using chemical or biological weapons in Ukraine," Psaki wrote on his official Twitter account . The spokeswoman claimed that Moscow could use such weapons as part of "a false flag operation.
What is a false flag operation?
Russia takes to the UN its accusation that the US has biological weapons in Ukraine
The concept of the false flag operation combines physical combat with communication and propaganda. The technique consists of establishing a communicative story that enables the enemy to be accused of a dirty attack that is planned to be launched to justify acts of war.
The thesis of the United States is as follows: the government of Vladimir Putin , with the propaganda backing of China , has been accusing Ukraine since last December of great progress in obtaining nuclear and chemical weapons, due to the support of the United States . . The objective of these continuous accusations is that when the attack takes place (provoked by Russia) the Kremlin can accuse the enemy and public opinion buys the story. Once the Russian people are convinced that Ukraine and the United States have launched a chemical attack on Russia, they will be able to justify any war action.
The theory is supported in Washington by the US think tank ISW (Institute for the Study of War) , which conducts a daily analysis of the front in Ukraine and has published a report on the "false flag operation".
What clues do the Americans have?
The ISW presents in its report a series of statements made by Russian or Chinese leaders since last December 21 in which Ukraine is accused of collaborating with the United States to attack Russia with nuclear or biological weapons. This series of statements (some of which can be read below) are, in the eyes of the American Think Tank, indications of the preparation of a montage.
The first accusation came from Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu, who accused the United States of planning a chemical attack in Donbas . The next day, the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics accused the Americans of sending botulinum toxin (a non-contagious biochemical agent) to Mariupol and Kharkov and providing the antidote to Ukrainian forces. These two are followed by many others, each more serious.
On February 10, in fact, the director of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, Sergey Naryshkin , launched an accusation identical to the one published by the White House spokeswoman, insinuating a false flag attack by the United State.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian told Chinese media on March 8 that Russia had found laboratories the United States uses to carry out biomilitary plans in Ukraine.
All these accusations are interpreted in the US as the prelude to an attack with radiological dirty bombs. Still, the ISW admits that it "has no reason to assess that the Kremlin intends to carry out a biological attack."
“It is extremely unlikely that Russia would use a contagious biological weapon due to the inherent risks to its own forces and population. Russia could take the opportunity to plan a leak caused by Russia of a non-contagious biochemical agent and blame the United States”, declares the Think Tank, although they also do not have “indicators” that these preparations are taking place.
Any information on a matter like this is sensitive, because one of the powers is lying or wrong. Insinuating that a state is willing to attack itself (with chemical weapons) and then lie and hold the enemy responsible is clearly a very serious accusation . The fact is, however, that there is precedent in both Russia and the United States, which has taken advantage of this type of tactic since the famous incident with the battleship Maine during the war against Spain in Cuba in 1898.
As for the Kremlin , "carrying out illegal chemical attacks on civilians and then blaming those attacks on opposition fighters has become a standard part of the Russian-backed Syrian regime's playbook ," the ISW states in its report.
https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/496...i-la-invasion/
The crossed accusations of biological attacks in the making between the United States and Russia suggest that a "false flag operation" is coming. Russia has been talking for months about the alleged existence of US biological weapons on Ukrainian soil.
The alert comes after controversial statements by the White House spokeswoman, Jen Psaki, on March 9, in a statement via Twitter .
"Now that Russia has made these false accusations, and China appears to have endorsed such propaganda, we should all be vigilant about the possibility of Russia using chemical or biological weapons in Ukraine," Psaki wrote on his official Twitter account . The spokeswoman claimed that Moscow could use such weapons as part of "a false flag operation.
What is a false flag operation?
Russia takes to the UN its accusation that the US has biological weapons in UkraineThe concept of the false flag operation combines physical combat with communication and propaganda. The technique consists of establishing a communicative story that enables the enemy to be accused of a dirty attack that is planned to be launched to justify acts of war.
The thesis of the United States is as follows: the government of Vladimir Putin , with the propaganda backing of China , has been accusing Ukraine since last December of great progress in obtaining nuclear and chemical weapons, due to the support of the United States . . The objective of these continuous accusations is that when the attack takes place (provoked by Russia) the Kremlin can accuse the enemy and public opinion buys the story. Once the Russian people are convinced that Ukraine and the United States have launched a chemical attack on Russia, they will be able to justify any war action.
The theory is supported in Washington by the US think tank ISW (Institute for the Study of War) , which conducts a daily analysis of the front in Ukraine and has published a report on the "false flag operation".
What clues do the Americans have?
The ISW presents in its report a series of statements made by Russian or Chinese leaders since last December 21 in which Ukraine is accused of collaborating with the United States to attack Russia with nuclear or biological weapons. This series of statements (some of which can be read below) are, in the eyes of the American Think Tank, indications of the preparation of a montage.
The first accusation came from Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu, who accused the United States of planning a chemical attack in Donbas . The next day, the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics accused the Americans of sending botulinum toxin (a non-contagious biochemical agent) to Mariupol and Kharkov and providing the antidote to Ukrainian forces. These two are followed by many others, each more serious.
On February 10, in fact, the director of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, Sergey Naryshkin , launched an accusation identical to the one published by the White House spokeswoman, insinuating a false flag attack by the United State.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian told Chinese media on March 8 that Russia had found laboratories the United States uses to carry out biomilitary plans in Ukraine.
All these accusations are interpreted in the US as the prelude to an attack with radiological dirty bombs. Still, the ISW admits that it "has no reason to assess that the Kremlin intends to carry out a biological attack."
“It is extremely unlikely that Russia would use a contagious biological weapon due to the inherent risks to its own forces and population. Russia could take the opportunity to plan a leak caused by Russia of a non-contagious biochemical agent and blame the United States”, declares the Think Tank, although they also do not have “indicators” that these preparations are taking place.
Any information on a matter like this is sensitive, because one of the powers is lying or wrong. Insinuating that a state is willing to attack itself (with chemical weapons) and then lie and hold the enemy responsible is clearly a very serious accusation . The fact is, however, that there is precedent in both Russia and the United States, which has taken advantage of this type of tactic since the famous incident with the battleship Maine during the war against Spain in Cuba in 1898.
As for the Kremlin , "carrying out illegal chemical attacks on civilians and then blaming those attacks on opposition fighters has become a standard part of the Russian-backed Syrian regime's playbook ," the ISW states in its report.
https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/496...i-la-invasion/
The title ”what do we know” would more properly be: ”what do we, NATO propagandists, want you to know and think”. The genocide in Donbass has been documented in more detail with links posted in this thread, and the west - who instigated the coup, provided lethal aid and training to Nazis etc, are in full denial on account of their complicity. Nazi sympathizers can deny all they want.
Bullshit. Provide some facts, not what you want to be facts. Your documentation is a lie. Do some reading outside of your very , very, small circle. Your hero is slaughtering innocent folks while you excuse the death of babies. Sick.
Where do your loyalties lie?
Funny how you would call that racist, but then again I hear so is math. I am not racist, you are.
Bullshit. The racism is coming from you.
Whatever dude. Go back to Russia. Putin will love you.
I am not making excuses, you are. You are bullshit, you are a liar, and you deny and excuse genocide for the simple reason that for the past eight years you have supported the slaughter of innocents like Kristina Zhuk and her daughter Kira. It is to them that my loyalties lie, while your loyalty is with the Nazi perpetrators.
Between a rock and a hard place.
Many disposed by the Stalinists embraced the nazis on the other side. Many disposed by the nazis embraced the stalinists. None the less, Ukraine is it’s own country where democracy has taken a foothold. There is no one to blame for their current mess, except putin. In 2014 the America aided the Ukrainians. It had nothing to do with aiding nazism. That is Stalinist bullshit. Putin regurgitation. Shit spread by wanna be intellectuals.
Many disposed by the Stalinists embraced the nazis on the other side. Many disposed by the nazis embraced the stalinists. None the less, Ukraine is it’s own country where democracy has taken a foothold. There is no one to blame for their current mess, except putin. In 2014 the America aided the Ukrainians. It had nothing to do with aiding nazism. That is Stalinist bullshit. Putin regurgitation. Shit spread by wanna be intellectuals.
You spread all the best propaganda. Well done you!
”In 2014 America aided the Ukranians”: specifically America aided Svoboda and the Right Sector in conducting a coup d’etat against the elected government followed by pogroms and genocide against ethnic russians in eastern Ukraine. But, but ”it had nothing to do with aiding nazism”, is Nazi apologetics 101.
You write it in clear text that your frens are without blame for their slaughter of innocents because you are a Nazi sympathizer.
It seems to only be found on Russian propaganda sites. The first copy of it I saw was from 2015 from a Russian twitter troll.
I doubt it’s verifiable in any case; just the likes of entropical sharing the same photo and story - dark corners of the net, 300 followers, that sort of thing.
Always happy to eat humble pie if entropical can verify it.
entropical - you might be interested in reading about Pavel Gubarev if you don’t know of him already. A Ukrainian neo-nazi like you keep mentioning, but a Russian separatist. Go figure?
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The Russians have been found to stage cadavers for these types of photos:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2022...in-the-donbas/
If it is real, it shows us a killed mother & child, a genuine tragedy. But who? Where? By whom?
Without verification it gives us nothing.
What you can tell due to the naming of the victims and the story behind them (whether it’s true or not) to elicit an emotional response, is that it’s certainly being used as propaganda.
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