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Montuno

...como el Son...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KfaAyiP8Wuc

Jimmy Dore discusses Ukrainian Nationalists (killing Gypsy's amongst other things )

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UNIÓN ROMANI - UNION OF THE GYPSY PEOPLE

Ukrainian army gypsies are fighting against Russian occupiers:

"We were born in Ukraine and we are defending it."
Viktor Chovka is a journalist with the radio and television station "TV21 Ungar in Uzhhorod, Ukraine," who has confirmed, in an interview he was given by Radio Romano of Sweden, that Gypsies enrolled in the Ukrainian army are fighting against the Russian occupiers. He himself stated that he had just returned from England to join his family.

As everyone knows, as I write this commentary on Sunday afternoon, the attacks are concentrated in the capital, Kiev where a considerable number of Gypsies live. They are also suffering from the anguish of their families living in Slovakia, the Czech Republic and neighboring countries. "Gypsies," Chovka said, "have families all over the world.

There are indeed many Gypsies soldiers in Ukraine. "Many of the Gypsies who became soldiers a long time ago signed contracts with the Ukrainian army and could not leave now because no one will allow them to cross the border. But there are also many Gypsies who want to go to war, because this is the place where we were born - Ukraine," Chovka said.

Myroslav Horvat, a Gypsy-Roms activist in Ukraine, told Radio Romanó that "Roms are in shock. There is a lot of stress here because it is quite complicated, for example, just to buy groceries," adding that most are worried about how they will make a living, because their jobs ended when the war started.

Horvat shares photos of Roms soldiers in the Ukrainian army on his Facebook profile, which displays the Ukrainian flag. Julian Kondur, another Roms activist from the Chiricli organization in Ukraine, describes the situation of the Roms peaple in Kiev as follows: "We are all doing our best to stay safe, be with our families and be ready to defend our homes. We trust our army and we will defend our country."

Despite everything anti-Gypsyism has also been present in Ukraine:
Ukraine is a very big country. Bigger than Spain. It has more than 600,000 square kilometers (Spain has 505,000 kilometers) and a population very similar to that of Spain, almost 45 million inhabitants. And as in so many Eastern European countries anti-Gypsyism has been present.

It was in June 2018 when a climate of racist, Nazi and fascist-like violence was unleashed against the Roms community in Ukraine whose population is close to 300,000. The Community of St. Egidio of Kiev publicly denounced the outrages that the Gypsies were suffering in various parts of the nation. Thus, in the violent assault on the camp where some gypsy families lived in Lviv, in the neighborhood of Sokilniki, a young man of 24 years old was killed and three other people were injured, among them a 10 year old child. Earlier, however, victims were those living in the Lisa Gora camps and on June 7 in Golossevoa Park; in Ruden, on the outskirts of Lviv, on May 9. And in Velika Beresovitsa, on the outskirts of Ternopil, on May 22, some 15 men attacked a group of Gypsies who were preparing dinner at a campfire. The assailants broke into the meal and started shooting. Several tents were set on fire and the Gypsies fled into the forest. The director of the Police in the region, Alexander Bogomol, explained that the Gypsies came from the Transcarpathian region and had camped next to a sugar factory. They were subsisting as scrap metal dealers.

The St. Egidio community, which is free of any suspicion, claims that, as almost always, this racist violence manifests itself against families of Ukrainian citizens who are Gypsies and who live poorly with many children in shanty camps and dilapidated tents.

Gypsies and Roms have always been present in Ukraine;
The Gypsies in Ukraine are mostly of Russian origin. Before Ukraine gained its independence in 1991, two years after the Berlin Wall fell, the Gypsy population was well over one million. (Today there are 825,000 Gypsies living in Russia). It is natural, therefore, that the contribution of the Gypsy community to the shaping of the collective culture of this part of Europe was widely known.

Valeri Novoselski was a member of the International Romani Union.
Valeri Novoselski was a committed Ukrainian Gypsy. He was born in 1970 and died in 2016 in Riga (Latvia). A tireless activist he was one of the creators of the Romani Virtual Network and developed his work both in Ukraine and in Eastern Siberia, in Moscow and finally in Israel. I am pleased to say that in July 2000 he was elected a member of the International Romani Union, an institution in which we served together. We all remember him.

Eugene Hütz is known in the international music world as the creator of "transglobal gypsy punk".



https://unionromani.org/2022/02/28/l...upantes-rusos/
 

h.h.

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Psyops are a hell of a thing. They're clever devices that are designed to get through our mental defenses, kind of like a virus or malware getting through a firewall. Plus they have the added 'benefit' of having that grain of truth so when someone who isn't the mark argues against it, the rube will always fiercely point out the one truthful element to the lie in defense of their position.

If you ever get a chance, listen or read the 48 Laws of Power. It's an insightful look into how power is accumulated and the mental manipulation that drives it.

All propaganda has a hint of truth to it. Just enough to draw in the gullible and the wanna bees. Those too lazy to look for themselves.
 

h.h.

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There’s a lot of assholes in my own country. Perhaps we should be sacrificed to Russia? What kind of bullshit talk is that?
 

Three Berries

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And you know this how?? Not that it helps your point since it's your ilk that believes these lies as many of them eventually become mainstreamed to FOX so GOP politicos can start to safely parrot them.

There is Q, there are Anons, but QAnon is nothing more than a Twitter handle and MSM propaganda. Many Paytriaots and traitors. But many have been outed. Truth Social will clear the rest out.
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
LE PEN, LEADER OF THE FRENCH ultra-RIGHT, CRITICIZES THE SENDING OF ARMS TO UKRAINE: .
The French leader of the far-right National Rally party, Marine Le Pen, criticized on Saturday the European strategy of sending arms to Ukraine and advised to exhaust diplomatic channels to resolve the conflict.
 

Three Berries

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Again the 12 day mark was when the operation wrapped up, the withdrawal actually began a full month before 9/11. If it was all about 9/11 Biden could have easily stretched it out. After all he got the Taliban to agree to letting him delay things from the May 1st deadline Trump had promised, up to August 31, so another 11 days would have been nothing. Coincidentally (although not really a coincidence as much as the plan all along) The Taliban began the final offensive on May 1st, which gave them control of the country in a matter of days rather then weeks or months like the Pentagon was forecasting. Of course now you'll probably say something equally stupid like "30 days is close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades" in order to try to keep your fake news narrative alive.

As of the SOTU address Biden's approval rating was at 40% which is dismal of course but about the same as Trump's average approval rating over the 4 years of his presidency. Now that the pandemic is wrapping up, mandates are being lifted, job creation is still very high and unemployment is still very low and life will likely begin to return to normal, I feel rather then plunging like you predict Biden's numbers will start to rise once people get out there and see what is actually going on rather then staying at home and obsessing on social media reports.

By the way, you do realize don't you that a big part of why Biden's numbers have dropped so low is because many Americans are upset that the Attorney General and the DOJ have yet to do anything meaningful about holding Trump accountable for 1/6 but if you've been paying close attention to all the news rather then just focusing on Ukraine you know that's likely to change very soon.

It should be obvious that Bidan can not do anything let alone hold back the Taliban for another 12 days. The date alone would antagonize the Taliban enough to work hard to destroy the Deep States goals.

Go ahead and make apologies for the worst US military disaster all time for the US. Trump was the only President focused on withdrawing from the 20 year fiasco. Bidan did not have a choice on the actual withdrawal.
 

ButterflyEffect

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Again the 12 day mark was when the operation wrapped up, the withdrawal actually began a full month before 9/11. If it was all about 9/11 Biden could have easily stretched it out. After all he got the Taliban to agree to letting him delay things from the May 1st deadline Trump had promised, up to August 31, so another 11 days would have been nothing. Coincidentally (although not really a coincidence as much as the plan all along) The Taliban began the final offensive on May 1st, which gave them control of the country in a matter of days rather then weeks or months like the Pentagon was forecasting. Of course now you'll probably say something equally stupid like "30 days is close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades" in order to try to keep your fake news narrative alive.

As of the SOTU address Biden's approval rating was at 40% which is dismal of course but about the same as Trump's average approval rating over the 4 years of his presidency. Now that the pandemic is wrapping up, mandates are being lifted, job creation is still very high and unemployment is still very low and life will likely begin to return to normal, I feel rather then plunging like you predict Biden's numbers will start to rise once people get out there and see what is actually going on rather then staying at home and obsessing on social media reports.

By the way, you do realize don't you that a big part of why Biden's numbers have dropped so low is because many Americans are upset that the Attorney General and the DOJ have yet to do anything meaningful about holding Trump accountable for 1/6 but if you've been paying close attention to all the news rather then just focusing on Ukraine you know that's likely to change very soon.

Well said HK.
 

ButterflyEffect

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You mean the book that a week after its publication, Ariel Toaff withdrew the book from circulation, in order to "re-edit the passages which comprised the basis of the distortions and falsehoods that have been published in the media" The book was republished the following year. Toaff added an afterword, "Trials and Historical Methodology: In defence of Pasque di Sangue", in which he wrote,

"I wish to specify that the principal aim of my research was to investigate the role of the so-called ‘blood culture’ in the German-speaking Jewish community, as in the Christian society that surrounded it. This was a manifold, therapeutic, magical, propitiatory, alchemic role which flouted the strict biblical and rabbinic prohibitions on the consumption of blood....But between this dried blood used in the rite – blood which originated from unknown ‘donors’, alive and well, and mostly belonging to indigent families – and alleged ritual murders there was no relationship whatsoever save in the minds of judges (and not only those of Trent) as they endeavoured to prove the blood accusation against the Jews. Through their tendentious interpretations, the magical, therapeutic, alchemic, propitious or maleficent use of blood served to give plausible support to the deadly blood libel."

Next up on deck, he'll be telling you how Dr Andrew Wakefield discovered ground-breaking research into the direct relationship between autism and vaccines 🤣🤣
 

ButterflyEffect

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AUGUSTO MONTERROSO : La oveja negra :


En un lejano país existió hace muchos años una Oveja negra. Fue fusilada.
Un siglo después, el rebaño arrepentido le levantó una estatua ecuestre que quedó muy bien en el parque.
Así, en lo sucesivo, cada vez que aparecían ovejas negras eran rápidamente pasadas por las armas para que las futuras generaciones de ovejas comunes y corrientes pudieran ejercitarse también en la escultura.
...

In a distant country, many years ago, there was a black sheep. She was shot.
A century later, the repentant flock erected an equestrian statue of her that looked very nice in the park.
Thus, from then on, whenever black sheep appeared, they were quickly put to the sword so that future generations of ordinary sheep could also be trained in sculpture.


Is that how the phrase 'black sheep' was actually created? I love your posts and the stories you tell, friend!
 

ButterflyEffect

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All propaganda has a hint of truth to it. Just enough to draw in the gullible and the wanna bees. Those too lazy to look for themselves.

All by design, of course. That's how they're able to get through our defenses. I'm still intrigued as to how some people are susceptible to propaganda and some are not. Like I stated prior, it has much less to do with actual intelligence. I'm sure the answer is rather nuanced and complex.
 

Volcanna

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All by design, of course. That's how they're able to get through our defenses. I'm still intrigued as to how some people are susceptible to propaganda and some are not. Like I stated prior, it has much less to do with actual intelligence. I'm sure the answer is rather nuanced and complex.

Says the guy who bought all the ghost of Kiev type stories and the covid narrative for 2 years. Hahahahha
 

ButterflyEffect

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There is Q, there are Anons, but QAnon is nothing more than a Twitter handle and MSM propaganda. Many Paytriaots and traitors. But many have been outed. Truth Social will clear the rest out.

Of course, it is. Naturally you have proof of this? Truth Social? The site with the waiting list to even get an account? Do you truly believe that it's because there are so many people signing up that it's just taking a long time? Wait, don't tell me, I know your answer already. Hey maybe Trump will actually post on his own site someday being that he's just like you, one of the regular people.
 
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