War

[mean mr.mustard]

Man hands.

Attitude to spare.

What she doesn't have is a plan... or respect.

Or brains.

But that's becoming the new cool thing.

 

[Hiddenjems]

no, it's not...now. and they were not under attack either, so that blows that excuse out of the water.

The whole reason they’ve been pushing into Ukraine for almost the past ten years was to end up with a more defensible border than they started with.

Sure Putin is a bad guy. But what does the morality base of someone’s decisions have to do with the factual realities of the situation?


If I’m describing the bullet trajectory of a certain physical projectile, does the intent of the shooter change anything?

 

[Hiddenjems]

Can we start an online gambling pool on where the borders will be on a certain date? That way people pay money the more wrong they are? $1us a mile for how far you’re off, with closest getting all the money?


I’ve noticed the cost of being wrong is free over the past few years.

 

[Microbeman]

The whole reason they’ve been pushing into Ukraine for almost the past ten years was to end up with a more defensible border than they started with.

Sure Putin is a bad guy. But what does the morality base of someone’s decisions have to do with the factual realities of the situation?


If I’m describing the bullet trajectory of a certain physical projectile, does the intent of the shooter change anything?

With today's ballistics, defensible borders are senseless so far as the big powers go. On the other hand if you are seeking more real estate or wish to massacre your neighbor pushing borders makes sense.

NATO is not (supposedly) an aggressor. Why do nations wish to join? Because they are afraid; because they want protection. Same reason you might buy a security system for your house.

 

[armedoldhippy]

The whole reason they’ve been pushing into Ukraine for almost the past ten years was to end up with a more defensible border than they started with.

they were not being attacked, nor was anyone planning to attack them that we know of. that's a bullshit excuse for aggression if i've ever heard one...

 

[armedoldhippy]

I’ve noticed the cost of being wrong is free over the past few years.

looking pretty expensive for Putin and Russia so far. and he just keeps on throwing money (and people) into the flames...

 

[Microbeman]

looking pretty expensive for Putin and Russia so far. and he just keeps on throwing money (and people) into the flames...

In private he is saying to himself

 

[Microbeman]

For Europeans, Russians and Asians to fully understand the American attitude, they will need to grok Johnny Carson.

 

[Zeez]

With today's ballistics, defensible borders are senseless so far as the big powers go. On the other hand if you are seeking more real estate or wish to massacre your neighbor pushing borders makes sense.

NATO is not (supposedly) an aggressor. Why do nations wish to join? Because they are afraid; because they want protection. Same reason you might buy a security system for your house.

They can get us to pick up the tab.

 

[Microbeman]

For Europeans, Russians and Asians to fully understand the American attitude, they will need to grok Johnny Carson.

Caveat to this; excluding @shiva82 as there is no possibility of his/her/it/they understanding any of this oblique shit.

 

[Microbeman]

They can get us to pick up the tab.

Although that may be a benefit, that is not a motivator. It sounds more like Trump shit really. Don't forget the US was a late comer to WW2. The guys with the cojones were in that mix up prior to the Americans. [including some Americans who joined the Canadian and British military]

 

[mean mr.mustard]

The whole reason they’ve been pushing into Ukraine for almost the past ten years was to end up with a more defensible border than they started with.

It's more than that. It's unfettered access to the Black Sea and the ports necessary for trade, as well as deep seated adoration for the return of ancient history as the USSR dances like a sugar plum fairy in front of Putin's ego.

 

[Zeez]

Although that may be a benefit, that is not a motivator. It sounds more like Trump shit really. Don't forget the US was a late comer to WW2. The guys with the cojones were in that mix up prior to the Americans. [including some Americans who joined the Canadian and British military]

It does sound that way, but it is true. It's like the United Nations. Bringing it full circle, I would prefer that much more of this money gets spent at home on education and our infrastructure.

 

[Microbeman]

It does sound that way, but it is true. It's like the United Nations. Bringing it full circle, I would prefer that much more of this money gets spent at home on education and our infrastructure.

[and healthcare] I would prefer that too. I was only addressing Europeans' motivation for wanting to join NATO.

 

[igrowone]

Mr Prigozhin has showed up once again
interesting that a 'traitor' is out and about, roaming in Russia as he sees fit
from Fox, the least unfriendly large American news source to the Russian side

Prigozhin appears publicly for first time since mutiny, suggests mercenaries won't fight in Ukraine

Wagner Group mercenary leader Yevgeny Prigozhin appears in a video speaking to his troops as they arrive in Belarus, the first public image of him since his short-lived mutiny.

www.foxnews.com

 

[greyfader]

as long as she/it's not reading to kids it's fine...also i doubt she/it can read

she may be in violation of transmitting porn to minors. apparently, she sent copies of that pic to everyone on her email list without any age verification.

 

[Zeez]

Although that may be a benefit, that is not a motivator. It sounds more like Trump shit really. Don't forget the US was a late comer to WW2. The guys with the cojones were in that mix up prior to the Americans. [including some Americans who joined the Canadian and British military]

Very familiar with this. Don't forget Belgians, French and Nederlanders. I have heard th stories, many of them, first person . My wife's grandparents were in the underground with American and British flyers living in their attic in an occupied town. Then, smuggling them to the coast where they got on fishing boats and made their way to England. If caught, they would have been killed along with all family members.

 

[unclefishstick]

she may be in violation of transmitting porn to minors. apparently, she sent copies of that pic to everyone on her email list without any age verification.

what a fucking idiot...and to stay on topic,putin sucks!

 

[Blue Rhino]

I'd call Bedpan a piece of shit but that would be an insult to shit. At least shit is useful and worth something.

 

[armedoldhippy]

Bringing it full circle, I would prefer that much more of this money gets spent at home on education and our infrastructure.

and when Russia quits trying to turn back the clock & rebuild the USSR, we can cut back on the money we put into NATO. that will still leave China to keep tabs on, but...pulling troops etc out of Europe would be a real cost-cutting exercise.