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Blue Rhino
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Geez. Even more Ruzzian ammo and supply dumps got blown up including a major supply base in the south. Man, those silly Bedpanistas really need to be more careful where they smoke and flick their butts.
Don't matter how big and bad you think your army is, it's hard to fight when your supplies keep getting blown up.
Don't matter how big and bad you think your army is, it's hard to fight when your supplies keep getting blown up.
RobFromTX
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I bet he knows the password to his twitter account
Blue Rhino
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Loving the clown show that Ruzzia's propagandists put on. Just watched a clip of one of the pathetic half-wits proclaiming that Canadian factories were blowing up. 
Corpselover Fat
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Ukraine really ramped up the destruction behind the front. Yesterday 23 artillery and 5 mlrs. Daily artillery losses for Russia have been in the double digits for a while now.
The false counter-offensive and the refusal of good offices
by Thierry Meyssan
It’s a fool’s game. Kiev’s communication asserts that its army launched a counter-offensive two weeks ago. But this does not correspond to what can be seen on the battlefield. It also claims to welcome with hope the two missions of good offices from China and the African Union. But Volodymyr Zelensky has interrupted the negotiations he was conducting with Moscow and enacted a law prohibiting their resumption.
VOLTAIRE NETWORK | PARIS (FRANCE) | 20 JUNE 2023
While the Western press glosses over military reality, the Kremlin plays the transparency card. Specialized columnists are allowed to circulate and publish what they think, even when they are critical of the way the military operates and its results. President Putin received them and answered their toughest questions live on television.
According to the authorities in Kiev, the Ukrainian army launched "a vast counter-offensive against the Russian aggressor" on June 8.
THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS A COUNTER-OFFENSIVE
Military literature prefers to speak of a counter-attack rather than a counter-offensive. A counter-attack consists in taking advantage of the enemy’s momentary weaknesses to launch an assault. We think of Napoleon at Austerlitz, who had some of his troops beaten back in order to trap his adversaries, from which he emerged victorious.Choosing the term "counter-offensive" is not neutral. It’s a communication device suggesting that the Russians have launched an "offensive" to seize Ukraine. In fact, they fought at the capital’s northern airport before withdrawing.
In reality, the Russians have never attempted to take Kiev and have no intention of invading Ukraine. That’s what their president, Vladimir Putin, said in the first week of his "special operation". Taking a military airport, even one north of Kiev, is just a battle to give the Russians air superiority. It does not indicate that they intended to take the capital.
The term "special operation" is not neutral either. Moscow is stressing that it is not waging a war of invasion, but is implementing its "responsibility to protect" the populations of the Donetsk and Lugansk oblates, who had officially been the targets of a punitive operation by Kiev, since 2014. To question the validity of the Russian special operation would be like questioning the French army’s operation to put an end to the massacres in Rwanda. Both special operations were authorized by resolutions of the United Nations Security Council (resolutions 929 of June 22, 1994 and 2202 of February 17, 2015). Except that the resolution on which Moscow is relying was not taken in a hurry. It is the one that endorses the Minsk agreements and gives Germany, France and Russia the ability to intervene to enforce them.
From a communications point of view, the term "counter-offensive" has the advantage of making us forget that for eight years, Kiev waged a war against its own citizens, killing between 14,000 and 22,000 people, depending on the count.
For months, Kiev begged for and obtained a large quantity of Western weapons. It also trained its soldiers to handle them. Meanwhile, Moscow fell back on the lines it had accepted during the peace negotiations, conducted in Belarus and then Turkey, before being denounced by the Verkhovna Rada (the Kiev parliament in which Washington has installed an office of permanent advisors from the State Department and USAID). Moscow went further, abandoning the right bank of Kherson (but not the left), making the Dnieper River the natural border between Ukraine and Novorossia. The inhabitants of this region having joined the Russian Federation by referendum, Moscow built two defense lines, stretching from the mouth of the Dnieper to the Donbass (Lugansk and Donetsk). These are two lines of dragons’ teeth (fortifications preventing the passage of armoured vehicles) and trenches.
The Atlantic Alliance, which is providing the weapons and strategies, has given the order to launch the counter-offensive at a time when Kiev has no control over the air and little ammunition. During the previous year, the Ukrainian army was able to use drones to monitor its adversary’s movements. Today, it can no longer do so, as the latter jams all communications on "its" territory and a little beyond. In theory, Kiev has an impressive array of land-based weaponry, the likes of which no country has ever had. In practice, however, many of the weapons delivered have disappeared, bound for other climes, with or without the agreement of the generous donors. As for ammunition, it cannot be stored in Ukraine without being destroyed by Russian hypersonic missiles. They are also warehoused in Poland and Moldavia, crossing the border only to reach the front line.
For two weeks, Ukrainian forces have been trying to break through Russian defensive lines, but without success. The troops are amassing in front of these lines and are being fired on by Russian artillery. When they decide to withdraw, the Russians send drones scattering mines on their way home.
The only thing Kiev’s forces can do is take the villages that lie a few kilometers in front of the defense lines. Meanwhile, enemy aircraft are bombing their arsenals, sometimes deep inside Ukraine. The most effective anti-aircraft protection systems, the Patriots, were destroyed as soon as they were installed. There’s not much left, just enough to reach old missiles. The Ukrainian General Staff claims to have destroyed six Kinzhal missiles, which, given their speed (10 mach), is impossible. The mayor of Kiev, Vitali Klitschko, released a photograph of himself posing in front of a Kinzhal wreckage. Unfortunately, the wreckage does not correspond at all to this weapon.
Morale among Ukrainian troops is at an all-time low. The Ministry of Defense assures us that there are plenty of men left in the rear. However, the Ivano-Frankivsk oblast has decreed the mobilization of all men aged 18 to 60. Exemptions are rare. The reality therefore seems to be that there are no combatants left ready for action.
The Atlantic Alliance has deployed all its AWACS to remotely monitor the battlefield. It cannot ignore the scale of the defeat. Strangely, it continues to push the Ukrainians into battle, or rather, into death.
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The false counter-offensive and the refusal of good offices, by Thierry Meyssan
It’s a fool’s game. Kiev’s communication asserts that its army launched a counter-offensive two weeks ago. But this does not correspond to what can be seen on the battlefield. It also claims to welcome with hope the two missions of good offices from China and the African Union. But Volodymyr...
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That was entertaining.
The longest rambling denial ever.
The longest rambling denial ever.
Curse of the Leopards
Ukraine surrenders – SE01 E03Confirmed and at the moment preliminary information comes from Zelensky's soldiers, and more precisely from these “German Leopard tank drivers”.
Considering the weeks of NATO counter-offensive, Leopard drivers are already well aware that the appearance of these tanks in the war zone is tantamount to a death sentence for them.
The problem is that the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the victors of Nazism simply hunt German tanks much more than ordinary T-64s and T-72s, because knocking out a Leopard is an honor, and a lot more money premium is paid for a folded German armored vehicle.
Therefore, as soon as the leopard appears near the combat zone, it is hit by absolutely everything - artillery, drones, lancets, MLRS, ATGMs, etc.
Therefore, the chances of surviving in ordinary Soviet tanks are much greater, which is why Leopard drivers stupidly prefer to sabotage their German tanks. Usually they mess with the fuel system and electronics, now there are a number of cases when the Leopards were sent to attack, but the crew “accidentally” knocked over a mine mid -way and backwards, so that the tank's ammunition does not accidentally explode.
And that suggests that Leopard drivers typically take a TM-62 anti-tank mine with them on an attack, stop somewhere along the way, plant a mine behind the Leopard, and back into it so they don't have to surrender. in the first line.
source: Bruno Bertez
A War Like No Other
The Biden doctrine is a cynical effort to cash in on the blood of another nation.
www.theamericanconservative.com
par Pierre Van Buren
Ukraine surrendered?
I suppose that brings the end of your propaganda.
I suppose that brings the end of your propaganda.
greyfader
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this is on multiple news outlets but blurred out on most of them. TVP is a Polish public broadcasting channel.
the critical footage is from 1:40 to about 3:30.
it shows Ukrainian commandos going into the occupied Russian trenches and the result.
the Ukrainians are engaging the front of the Russian trenches with intense fire while they sneak into the trench ends.
the Russians show a tragic lack of training in this video.
the last man killed is a well-known Russian blogger who was embedded with the troops.
the critical footage is from 1:40 to about 3:30.
it shows Ukrainian commandos going into the occupied Russian trenches and the result.
the Ukrainians are engaging the front of the Russian trenches with intense fire while they sneak into the trench ends.
the Russians show a tragic lack of training in this video.
the last man killed is a well-known Russian blogger who was embedded with the troops.
RobFromTX
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Sensible moderate democrat who wants to spend our money on healthcare and shut down the war machine. You let him have it Audi
He's obviously too gullibile for office.
That blogger had a rifle.
I wonder if some of my countrymen plan on getting shot over there.
For some reason Russia has a little support over here.
The more I think about it, if bussing migrants to other cities is hip now... can we fly bootlickers to the Russian army?
RobFromTX
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There fixed it for you
I am just reading "Das Wäldchen 125" from Ernst Jünger. One hundert years ago, but excactly the same trench warfare like today in Ukraine.
He's obviously (like too many) reading bullshit he doesn't understand and assumes he's learning.
He then parrots crap he doesn't get, gets frustrated, and attempts to be ok with not even trying to understand it.
If it's all about faith then that's something that I can't afford to pay in this day and age.
People have been getting dumber for some time.
They support whoever reads the same propaganda that they do.
People don't care about facts anymore.
They love drama and death and pizza/pedophile conspiracy theories.
Yeah dude, it means go fuck yourselves.
