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greyfader

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orlov is a joke! pure fabrication! and romsy, if the russian army is doing so well and crushing the enemy as you want to believe, why are they not able to take any more territory?

putler wants all of the four oblasts he "annexed", and right now he controls less than half of those.

Lavrov is the one calling for negotiations. the Ukrainians say that there is nothing to negotiate until the Russians leave all of ukraines sovereign territory.

you are about to see Russians running away from the fight. Do you remember how Kharkiv collapsed?

the Ukrainians would attack Russian positions and the men in them would run to the next town and tell those soldiers that the Ukrainians are coming and that group would also run away.

so on down the line. the Ukrainians took all that territory in just a few days.

i think you are about to see some shock and awe applied to the Russian army's ass.
 

Roms

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Patience is the mother of all virtues, Russian's smile to destroy and ridicule NATO's armies and staff but this smile is even more serious about the collapse coming of NATO's economies.

Checkmate ^^
 

flylowgethigh

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This article puts the history of the dims takeover of Ukraine, the west encouraging the nazi slaughter of civilians in the east, and the motivation for Russia in clear perspective. Remember, an airliner was shot down in this little nazi operation. That was covered up and blamed on Russia.

Wake up.
 

greyfader

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This article puts the history of the dims takeover of Ukraine, the west encouraging the nazi slaughter of civilians in the east, and the motivation for Russia in clear perspective. Remember, an airliner was shot down in this little nazi operation. That was covered up and blamed on Russia.

Wake up.
man, when are you going to realize that southfront.org is a straight-up Russian propaganda outlet with zero credibility to anyone here except the Russia lovers.
 

armedoldhippy

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the second picture must have been taken BEFORE the "special operation" began. i don't think they have that many tanks now... :dunno: :ROFLMAO: LONG before. Russian tanks in Budapest Hungary in 1956. first one was in Prague in 1968. Putin looks at these pix as being the "good ol' days"...
 

Corpselover Fat

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Since the start of the special military operation in Ukraine, the Russian army has shot down 430 planes, 235 helicopters and 4,407 drones. It destroyed 424 surface-to-air defense systems, 9,352 tanks and other armored vehicles, 1,105 multiple rocket launchers, 4,954 pieces of field artillery and mortars, and 10,587 other military equipment.

If this sounds in any way plausible to you... Uhm... Well ok, I've seen your posts.... Never mind.
 

entropical

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man, when are you going to realize that southfront.org is a straight-up Russian propaganda outlet with zero credibility to anyone here except the Russia lovers.
It speaks volumes of your cognitive abilities..

The genetic fallacy (also known as the fallacy of origins or fallacy of virtue) is a fallacy of irrelevance in which arguments or information are dismissed or validated based solely on their source of origin rather than their content.
 

Roms

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U.S. Empire Named Most Murderous Killing Machine In History

By Jeremy Kuzmarov - May 30, 2023

New study finds U.S. responsible for nearly 300 million deaths—and counting

 

entropical

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That´s true, patience, let´s wait and see what happens to Russsias economy in year 2, 3, or 5 of the sanctions?
Remind me again, whos eceonomy was thrown into recession because of anti-russian sanctions? Oh and lets not forget that America attacked your country and destroyed its infrastructure.

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Never mind the magazine Zeit celebrating that you will soon be a minority in your homeland. Can you tell me which year it was that the United States ended their occupation of your country? I tried searching for this but for some reason could find nothing.
 

Roms

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U.S. and NATO's Terrorism Biolabs, adrénochrome from child abductions, world capital of satanism in the name of Ukraine from Russian word that means "border"!

"This is a real Pandora's box, a diabolical box in which we will discover the most terrible ignominy fomented by the rulers of our supposed democracies for 30 years"

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Roms

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Who caused the war in Ukraine and why is this clarification important for achieving peace​


by Jacques Henry
By recognizing that the issue of NATO enlargement is central to this war, we understand why American weaponry will not end this war. Only diplomatic efforts can achieve this.

George Orwell wrote in "1984"Que"who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past". Governments work tirelessly to distort public perceptions of the past. With respect to the Ukraine War, the Biden administration has repeatedly and incorrectly asserted that the Ukraine War began with an unprovoked Russian attack on Ukraine on February 24, 2022. In fact, the war was provoked by the United States in a way that great American diplomats had foreseen for decades before the war, which means that the war could have been avoided and must now be stopped by negotiations.

Recognizing that war was caused helps us to understand how to stop it. This does not justify the invasion of Russia. A much better approach for Russia might have been to step up diplomacy with Europe and the non-Western world to explain and oppose US militarism and unilateralism. In fact, relentless US pressure to expand NATO is widely opposed around the world, so Russian diplomacy rather than war would likely have been effective.

Biden's team uses the word "unprovoked" over and over again, including in its major one-year anniversary speech, in a recent NATO statement, and in the most recent G7 statement. The Biden-friendly mainstream media just repeat the White House. THE New York Times is the main culprit, describing the invasion as “unprovoked” no less than 26 times, in five editorials, 14 opinion columns by authors from the NYT, and seven guest columnists!

There were actually two major American provocations. The first was the intention of the United States to extend NATO to Ukraine and Georgia in order to surround Russia in the Black Sea region by NATO countries (Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria , Turkey and Georgia, counterclockwise). The second was the role of the United States in installing a Russophobic regime in Ukraine through the violent overthrow of pro-Russian Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014. The shooting in Ukraine began with the overthrow of Yanukovych he nine years ago, not in February 2022, as the US government, NATO and G7 leaders would have us believe.

The key to peace in Ukraine is through negotiations based on Ukraine's neutrality and non-enlargement of NATO. Biden and his foreign policy team refuse to discuss these roots of the war. Recognizing them would undermine the administration in three ways. First, it would reveal the fact that the war could have been averted or stopped quickly, sparing Ukraine its current devastation and the United States over $100 billion in spending to date. Second, it would expose President Biden's personal role in the war as a participant in the overthrow of Yanukovych and, prior to that, as a staunch defender of the military-industrial complex and early proponent of NATO expansion. Third, it would push Biden to the negotiating table, undermining the administration's continued push for NATO expansion.

Records show irrefutably that the governments of the United States and Germany repeatedly promised Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not budge an inch east when the Soviet Union dismantled the Warsaw Pact military alliance. Nevertheless, the United States began planning NATO expansion in the early 1990s, long before Vladimir Putin became President of Russia. In 1997, national security expert Zbigniew Brzezinski spelled out with remarkable precision the timetable for NATO expansion.

American diplomats and Ukrainian leaders knew full well that NATO enlargement could lead to war. The great American scholar George Kennan called NATO enlargement a "fatal mistake", writing in the New York Times that : "Such a decision can be expected to inflame nationalist, anti-Western and militarist tendencies in Russian public opinion, have a negative effect on the development of Russian democracy, restore the atmosphere of the Cold War in the East-West relations, and pushing Russian foreign policy in directions we don't like.»

President Bill Clinton's Secretary of Defense, William Perry, considered resigning in protest at NATO expansion. Reflecting on that pivotal moment in the mid-1990s, Perry said the following in 2016: “Our first move that really put us in the wrong direction was when NATO started to expand, bringing in countries from Eastern Europe, some of which border Russia. At that time we were working very closely with Russia, which was getting used to the idea that NATO could be a friend rather than an enemy… but it was very uncomfortable with having NATO right on her border and she strongly urged us not to go ahead with that idea.»

In 2008, then-US Ambassador to Russia and now CIA Director William Burns sent a telegram to Washington warning of the grave risks of NATO expansion:Ukraine's and Georgia's NATO aspirations not only touch raw nerve in Russia, but they raise serious concerns about the implications for stability in the region. Not only does Russia perceive the encirclement and efforts to undermine its influence in the region, but it also fears unpredictable and uncontrolled consequences that would seriously affect Russian security interests. Experts tell us that Russia is particularly concerned that strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the Russian ethnic community against membership, could lead to a major split, involving violence or, at worst, civil war. In that event, Russia would have to decide whether or not to intervene, a decision it does not want to face.»

Ukrainian leaders knew full well that pushing for NATO enlargement to Ukraine would mean war. Zelensky's former adviser, Oleksiy Arestovych, said in a 2019 interview that "our price for joining NATO is a great war with Russia". In 2010-2013, Yanukovych pushed for neutrality, in line with Ukrainian public opinion. The United States worked secretly to overthrow Yanukovych, as the recordings of then United States Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and United States Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt clearly showed. by planning the post-Yanukovych government a few weeks before the violent overthrow of Yanukovych. Nuland makes it clear that she was coordinating closely with then-Vice President Biden and his national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, the same Biden-Nuland-Sullivan team that is now at the center of state politics. States with regard to Ukraine.

Historian Geoffrey Roberts recently wrote:Could the war have been prevented by a Russian-Western agreement that halted NATO expansion and neutralized Ukraine in exchange for strong guarantees of Ukrainian independence and sovereignty? Very probably". In March 2022, Russia and Ukraine reported progress towards an early negotiated end to the war based on Ukraine's neutrality. According to Naftali Bennett, Israel's former prime minister, who was a mediator, a deal was close to being reached before the US, UK and France blocked it.

While the Biden administration says the invasion of Russia is unprovoked, Russia has pursued diplomatic options in 2021 to avoid war, while Biden has rejected diplomacy, insisting that Russia does not had no say in the question of NATO enlargement. And Russia pushed diplomacy in March 2022, while the Biden team again blocked a diplomatic end to the war. By recognizing that the issue of NATO enlargement is central to this war, we understand why American weaponry will not end this war. Russia will step up if necessary to prevent NATO enlargement to Ukraine. The key to peace in Ukraine is through negotiations based on Ukraine's neutrality and non-enlargement of NATO. The Biden administration's insistence on NATO expansion to Ukraine has made Ukraine a victim of false US military aspirations. It is time for the provocations to stop and for the negotiations to restore peace in Ukraine to end this conflict.

Source. Commondreams.org, author Jeffrey D. Sachs, Professor at Columbia University. Illustration: Ukrainian army fighter shelling the city of Bhakmut-Artemiosk. The acoustic detection of the starting point of the shell directs the Russian-Donbassian counter-artillery and the "enemy" battery is located in a few seconds and almost immediately destroyed, transforming the operators, 3 to 5 gunners, into minced meat.

source: Jacques Henry
 

Roms

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A racist enlistment ad for Ukraine​


by Amar Djerrad

A strange announcement is circulating.
After the publication, on March 3, on the Facebook page of the Ukrainian Embassy in Dakar (Senegal) of an appeal to foreign citizens (volunteers, mercenaries and others) to come and fight in Ukraine against Russia and the strong protest of the Senegalese authorities condemning this practice violating the Vienna convention and the laws of the country, here that the Ukro-Atlanticists repeat with another deception, racist and ethnicist, of enlistment of volunteers for a certain death in Ukraine!
For this post oftechnicianthe contract requires them toparticipate in the Ukrainian counter-offensive. "
Nazism, racism, ethnicism, tribalism, terrorism, fraud, deceit, lies, villainy and all the monstrous behaviors that morality condemns and that religions curse... have become their values which they use and abuse cynically to achieve their dirty goals and to hell with laws, conventions and morals...
By this war in the Ukraine, Russia has laid bare the King, the kinglets and the vassals. Imps who do better than the devil!
Short of fighters in Ukraine, they make this announcement to recruit "Military maintenance technicians". (see image and link). In fact, it is a recruitment of poor people, cannon fodder, from Africa and the Middle East precisely to come and die in Ukraine in their place and place, offering them a high salary "for a contract and guaranteeing them citizenship in theUK or EU". All this… after the contract!
Understand “after their death”, because of course there will be nothing (no money, no coffin, no burial!). Neither seen nor known !
A quidam, Arab-African, simpleton who came to commit suicide himself!
 

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