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Hempy McNoodle

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Well first off I never said Neo Nazi's didn't exist in Ukraine, oddly enough they're concentrated in the very regions that Russia is recognizing as independent and presumably went into Ukraine to "protect" these areas. So yeah it's a bit of a stretch to suggest you're going into Ukraine to de-nazify it when the Nazi's inhabit the areas you claim to be protecting from the Nazis.

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You've got this absolutely wrong. Eastern Ukraine is the territory held by Russian separatists. Western Ukraine is the Deep State ?Nazi controlled region and this is the way it was going back all the way to WW2. The fact that Germany is going to, once again be arming western Ukrain (Nazi) against Russia again (first time since ww2) is an amazing sign.
 
M

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trump is a pussy,just like all blowhard bullies (and keyboard warriors)

He was asked if he would stay and protect America like Zelensky stayed in Ukraine and even he couldn't make such a lie and say "OF COURSE".... was an unusual moment of honesty....

He said something along the lines of "well, you can't really know how you'll react until you're in that situation"- which is VERY TRUE for most people, but you would imagine a guy who loves his country so much :biglaugh: would be rock solid on his stance, wouldn't you?? Nope.... he would be out of there in an instant.

Real 'pair of nuts' on that guy. :covereyes:
 

Hempy McNoodle

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He was asked if he would stay and protect America like Zelensky stayed in Ukraine and even he couldn't make such a lie and say "OF COURSE".... was an unusual moment of honesty....

He said something along the lines of "well, you can't really know how you'll react until you're in that situation"- which is VERY TRUE for most people, but you would imagine a guy who loves his country so much :biglaugh: would be rock solid on his stance, wouldn't you?? Nope.... he would be out of there in an instant.

Real 'pair of nuts' on that guy. :covereyes:

It's a fake war (sort of). If there were any threat to Zelinsky, as a matter of national security, he would not be allowed to be in danger during the crisis of a war. That's not how things work. It is propaganda.
 

Hempy McNoodle

Well-known member
The main threat to Zelinsky is the Deep State (Ukrainian or otherwise). I'm quite confident that Zelinsky has secretly asked Putin to 'denazify' Ukraine. And that seems to be exactly what is happening and why the global neonazis are all reeEEEing and screaming in unison over Ukraine.

(These are the same people who invaded and destroyed Iraq)

And, striking when they know that the US military is not with NATO...

Military planning at its finest!
 
M

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It's a fake war (sort of). If there were any threat to Zelinsky, as a matter of national security, he would not be allowed to be in danger during the crisis of a war. That's not how things work. It is propaganda.

It's really great how you see yourself as some sort of authority on ANYTHING, tbh.... totally delusional, but great confidence. Keep soldiering on, brother.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
What mark is on those vehicles in the 40 mile convoy?

That convoy is decisively Russian, right Berries?

The picture I saw had a white Z but turned sideways like an N but then painted over with a scribble of white paint like it was a mistake that had been crossed out and then a white Z painted correctly and yes it was the same type of armored vehicle like the other armored vehicles in that Russian convoy.
 

armedoldhippy

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mexcurandero420;n1808703 4 said:
I have no love for my government, or Prime Minister, so yes that was awful. Maybe start a thread on the environment and how governments trash it for profit. I suspect Trump's record there will not be great.

Nothing to do with war though which is the topic. Trump abandoned allies, yet some call him a hero. Did Trump ever serve in the military?

Commander Bonespurs, lol...
 

audiohi

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Somebody forgot to cancel the auto publish


Brave new world of Putin: An article by the propaganda publication RIA Novosti, which was to be published after the occupation of Ukraine

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-...on-of-ukraine/


A new world is being born before our eyes. Russia’s military operation in Ukraine has ushered in a new era – in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, internal Russian. Here begins a new period both in ideology and in the very model of our socio-economic system – but this is worth talking about separately a little later.

Russia is restoring its unity; the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more Ukraine as anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together – in its entirety of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians.

If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, then we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.

Vladimir Putin has assumed, without a drop of exaggeration, a historic responsibility by deciding not to leave the solution of the Ukrainian question to future generations. After all, the need to solve it would always remain the main problem for Russia – for two key reasons. And the issue of national security, that is, the creation of anti-Russia out of Ukraine and an outpost for the West to put pressure on us, is only the second most important among them.

The first would always be the complex of a divided people, the complex of national humiliation – when the Russian house first lost part of its foundation (Kyiv), and then was forced to come to terms with the existence of two states, not one, but two peoples. That is, either to abandon their history, agreeing with the insane versions that “only Ukraine is the real Rus,” or to gnash one’s teeth helplessly, remembering the times when “we lost Ukraine.” Returning Ukraine, that is, turning it back to Russia, would be more and more difficult with every decade – recoding, de-Russification of Russians and inciting Ukrainian Little Russians against Russians would gain momentum. And in the event of the consolidation of the full geopolitical and military control of the West over Ukraine, its return to Russia would become completely impossible – we would have to fight for it with the Atlantic bloc.

Now this problem is gone – Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state as a part of the Russian world. Within what boundaries, in what form will the alliance with Russia be consolidated (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus)? This will be decided after the end is put in the history of Ukraine as anti-Russia. In any case, the period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end.

Here begins the second dimension of the coming new era – it concerns Russia’s relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in the geopolitical dimension as a whole. These relations have entered a new stage – the West sees the return of Russia to its historical borders in Europe. And it is loudly indignant at this, although in the depths of his soul it must admit that it could not be otherwise.

Did anyone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin, seriously believe that Moscow would give up Kyiv? That the Russians will forever be a divided people? And at the same time when Europe is uniting, when the German and French elites are trying to seize control of European integration from the Anglo-Saxons and assemble a united Europe? Forgetting that the unification of Europe became possible only thanks to the unification of Germany, which took place according to the good Russian (albeit not very smart) will. To swipe after that also on Russian lands is not even the height of ingratitude, but of geopolitical stupidity. The West as a whole, and even more so Europe in particular, did not have the strength to keep Ukraine in its sphere of influence, and even more so to take Ukraine for itself. In order not to understand this, they had to be just geopolitical fools.

More precisely, there was only one option: to bet on the further collapse of Russia, that is, the Russian Federation. However, the fact that it did not work should have been clear twenty years ago. Moreover, already fifteen years ago, after Putin’s Munich speech, even the deaf could hear – Russia is returning.

Now the West is trying to punish Russia for the fact that it returned, for not justifying its plans to profit at its expense, for not allowing the expansion of the western space to the east. Seeking to punish us, the West thinks that relations with it are of vital importance to us. However, this has not been the case for a long time already – the world has changed, and this is well understood not only by Europeans, but also by the Anglo-Saxons who rule the West. No amount of Western pressure on Russia will lead to anything. Losses from the sublimation of confrontation will be on both sides, but Russia is ready for them morally and geopolitically. Nevertheless, for the West itself, an increase in the degree of confrontation incurs huge costs – and the main ones are not at all economic.

Europe, as part of the West, wanted autonomy – the German project of European integration does not make strategic sense while maintaining the Anglo-Saxon ideological, military and geopolitical control over the Old World. Moreover, it cannot be successful, because the Anglo-Saxons need a controlled Europe. However, Europe needs autonomy for another reason as well — in case the States go into self-isolation (as a result of growing internal conflicts and contradictions) or focus on the Pacific region, where the geopolitical center of gravity is moving.

The confrontation with Russia, into which the Anglo-Saxons are dragging Europe, deprives the Europeans of even the chances of independence – not to mention the fact that in the same way Europe is trying to impose a break with China. If now the Atlanticists are happy that the “Russian threat” will unite the Western bloc, then in Berlin and Paris they cannot fail to understand that, having lost hope for autonomy, the European project will simply collapse in the medium term. That is why independent-minded Europeans are now completely uninterested in building a new iron curtain on their eastern borders – realizing that it will turn into a corral for Europe. Whose age (more precisely, half a millennium) of global leadership is over in any case – but various options for its future are still possible.

Because the construction of a new world order – and this is the third dimension of current events – is accelerating, and its contours are more and more clearly visible through the spreading cover of Anglo-Saxon globalization. The multipolar world has finally become a reality – the operation in Ukraine is not capable of rallying anyone but the West against Russia. Because the rest of the world sees and understands perfectly well – this is a conflict between Russia and the West, this is a response to the geopolitical expansion of the Atlanticists, this is Russia’s return of its historical space and its place in the world.

China and India, Latin America and Africa, the Islamic world and Southeast Asia – no one believes that the West leads the world order, much less sets the rules of the game. Russia has not only challenged the West, it has shown that the era of Western global domination can be considered completely and finally over. The new world will be built by all civilizations and centers of power, naturally, together with the West (united or not) – but not on its terms and not according to its rules.
 

armedoldhippy

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https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1498668151827054596

John Bolton pushes back on Newsmax host: "[Trump] barely knew where Ukraine was...It's just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians"

But I'm sure he's just a RINO, Deep State, Traitor, or whatever it is that cults brand people when they call out the cult.

he's in "good company" tonight. ex-Fox host Bill O'Reilly now slamming his former network (on his podcast) for allowing Russian cheerleaders air time without pointing out their blatant lies.... he DID praise Fox interviewer Jennifer Griffin for calling out guest Douglas McGregor for claiming that Russia "was entitled to annex " the Crimean Peninsula, but had harsh words for the majority of his former network, claiming that they were doing the American people "a disservice" for airing and amplifying pro-Russian propaganda.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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You've got this absolutely wrong. Eastern Ukraine is the territory held by Russian separatists. Western Ukraine is the Deep State ?Nazi controlled region and this is the way it was going back all the way to WW2. The fact that Germany is going to, once again be arming western Ukrain (Nazi) against Russia again (first time since ww2) is an amazing sign.

So for you Germany = Nazi? My how exquisitely simple minded you are. You are correct that the separatists are in Eastern Ukraine so good to know you're at least smart enough to read a compass. As for the Neo-Nazis one of the best known examples of them are known in Ukraine as the Azov Battalion which is headquartered in...you guessed it, Donetsk which is one of the two regions containing the separatists in Eastern Ukraine.
 

armedoldhippy

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I'm quite confident that Zelinsky has secretly asked Putin to 'denazify' Ukraine.

And, striking when they know that the US military is not with NATO...

i'm quite confident that your head is so far up your ass that you could damn near lick your tonsils ...what makes you think that the US is not "with" NATO? THIS is gonna be hilarious...🤣
 

armedoldhippy

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It's a fake war (sort of). If there were any threat to Zelinsky, as a matter of national security, he would not be allowed to be in danger during the crisis of a war. That's not how things work. It is propaganda.

you might want to remind Putin that Zelenskyy is not to be endangered next time you talk to him, lol. i'm sure he is unaware of his military launching missiles into Kyiv, and knows nothing about the massive convoy of tanks etc trying to enter the city. when the US went into Iraq, and the conflict was ongoing, a USAF general suggested targeting Hussein because "he is a one-man show"; whereupon the nearly universally despised (for a few good reasons) Dick Cheney fired his ass because that violates the rules of war that the US follows, even if no one else bothers. odd, even Cheney had scruples...
 

HempKat

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It's a fake war (sort of). If there were any threat to Zelinsky, as a matter of national security, he would not be allowed to be in danger during the crisis of a war. That's not how things work. It is propaganda.

That's true for a country like the US that has a well trained, well equipped Military of all volunteers to protect it but when you run a country of 45 Million with a small poorly equipped military and you're asking every and all citizens willing and able to fight to take up arms you get out there with the troops as inspiration. Besides it's not like he's standing on the front lines engage in a live fire battle he's operating out of the Capital which is perhaps the most fortified position in the country. If he's not safe there he's not safe anywhere unless he leaves the country but it's kind of hard to ask your citizens to stand and fight if you yourself tuck tail and run to safety outside of the country.
 
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