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ButterflyEffect
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You mean following the exact plan that the Trump administration created? Sure Biden could have and should have modified but for you to say what you did is incredibly disingenuous and so very typical.
I’d read RT before your corporate american garbage any day, ”unbiased news” lol.
Russian state just let the world know the ’snake island’ heroes are alive and well.
Americanski website "Yahoo" published that the guys on the island were shelled. Another site at the same time showed the shells hitting a remote corner, and the shipleft. Pics took by guys on the island. It took yahoo two days to change their tune on the incorrect story. FAKE NEWS.
So the sides are:
Liberals / xiden lovers / NWO lovers / WEF lovers / news media - Go Ukraine puppet guv
.............................. ...............VS............. .............................. ...............
Freedom lovers / patriots / conservatives / non-robot thinkers - Go Putin and squash the NWO NATO-Nazis
ButterflyEffect
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Theres more conflict, tension and fighting in this thread than there is in Ukraine...
Not surprising when some people like to insist that their opinions have equal weight to facts. When actual reality meets fabricated ones this tends to be the outcome.
ButterflyEffect
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Don't confuse them with facts, it only makes them believe even more in their alternate universe.
That crazy fool erdowan traded his F-35s for Putins S-400s, and now he is pissing off Putinagain. Turkey is supposedly in NATO.
Trump wanted to leave NATO. The election Russia hoax is what the NWO did to make NATO relevant.
The MIC is good business, and those MIC stawks were what kept the American stawk market from crashing today.
ButterflyEffect
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Well, those were words
ButterflyEffect
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https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1498668151827054596
John Bolton pushes back on Newsmax host: "[Trump] barely knew where Ukraine was...It's just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians"
But I'm sure he's just a RINO, Deep State, Traitor, or whatever it is that cults brand people when they call out the cult.
John Bolton pushes back on Newsmax host: "[Trump] barely knew where Ukraine was...It's just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians"
But I'm sure he's just a RINO, Deep State, Traitor, or whatever it is that cults brand people when they call out the cult.
Well first off I never said Neo Nazi's didn't exist in Ukraine, oddly enough they're concentrated in the very regions that Russia is recognizing as independent and presumably went into Ukraine to "protect" these areas. So yeah it's a bit of a stretch to suggest you're going into Ukraine to de-nazify it when the Nazi's inhabit the areas you claim to be protecting from the Nazis.
The relevance of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is that it clearly demonstrates that the Soviets and therefore Russians had no real issues with Nazism from a moral perspective, just so long as the German Nazis didn't come after Russian Jews. Once they did all bets were off and they fought and eventually conquered the Germans invading the USSR. If the USSR was as against Nazism as Putin now likes to portray they never would have stood by while the Nazis invaded Poland and either enslave or killed the Jewish population of Poland. or would they have joined the invasion of Poland with the Nazis and then took over the Eastern half of Poland for themselves once Poland surrendered. Clearly when Putin claimed the desire to denazify Ukraine as part of his justification for invading Ukraine he was counting on the world's general knee jerk hatred of Nazis and the knowledge that there was an awareness by the world that Neo-Nazis existed in Ukraine. I can only assume he figured the world was largely ignorant of where these Neo-Nazis existed rather then realizing it was aware that the Neo-Nazis represented the majority of the people in the very regions he was claiming to defend from the Ukranian government.
Well I'd be lying if I tried to say nobody shared your fears. What has me mostly skeptical though is that by everything I've seen and heard the way Putin's ego comes into this whole situation isn't as much of a pure grab for power as it is a vision of securing a legacy of restoring Russia to the former glory once known as the USSR. I mean he's in his 70's now and some think he may have some serious illness such as cancer that will end his life soon and therefore he needs to act now for any chances of establishing this historic legacy of bringing back the once powerful USSR. If however he uses nukes in his attempt to accomplish that goal is he stands a greater chance of going down in the history books as the man that turned Russia into a sheet of radioactive glass and relegated the Russian people to annihilation which to me doesn't seem like that would be satisfactory to his ego. Furthermore since the fighting is mostly on Russia's borders if he uses nukes to achieve victory he'll be harming his own people as much as anyone else, while Nations like the US and those of Western Europe would mostly be unaffected. The only way around that would be if he launched nukes on all the nations he seems to be fighting which would result in multiple retaliatory strikes and then he wouldn't make the history books at all because virtually nobody would be left except maybe cockroaches.
Wrong that uncorroborated signed statement only covers that one incident at the radio station known as the "The Gleiwitz incident" it never covered all of the various false flag attacks.
You have a funny interpretation of "cornered" usually that doesn't include civilian volunteer forces armed with a gun and Molotov Cocktails holding off a much larger, better equipped and supposedly better trained (although given their failures to this point that training is questionable) army.
Don't forget that Russia is now so strong the Ruble is worth less then a penny...maybe they would do better to call it the Rubble?
How does that prove it's Ukrainian? There's no Z in the Ukrainian alphabet either. I mean if a symbol not being in the Russian alphabet proves it isn't Russian then the same logic should apply to Ukrainians as well.
ButterflyEffect
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I'd think your mistake was assuming that they use logic at all. You can't really expect more than that from the "I diD My rEseArch" crowd.
Well for one thing they first declared they were just doing military exercises after nobody bought that then they switched to recognizing two areas as separatists wanting to leave Ukraine and needing their protection. Of course that fell apart when they blew past those areas, and started attacking the capital.
Budz Lightyear
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What mark is on those vehicles in the 40 mile convoy?
That convoy is decisively Russian, right Berries?
