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entropical

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War is hell.

Don't forget who instigated this one.
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delta9nxs

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"I would like to emphasize again that Ukraine is not just a neighboring country for us. It is an inalienable part of our own history, culture and spiritual space. These are our comrades, those dearest to us -- not only colleagues, friends and people who once served together but also relatives, people bound by blood, by family ties." Vladimir Putin

again, the direct quote from uncle vova that no one on the Russian side seems to want to talk about.

the entire speech on feb 21 justifying the attack on ukraine.


you can read it or just watch the recording of him saying these things.

so, @entropical, do you really believe he doesn't want to own Ukraine again?

and taking his own words at face value, he is either assaulting a sovereign country or butchering his own people.

"The disintegration of our united country was brought about by the historic, strategic mistakes on the part of Bolshevik and Soviet leaders […] the collapse of the historical Russia known as the USSR is on their conscience."

from the same speech. here he clearly laments the dissolution of the great soviet empire. he clearly wants the power and status and economic base back in russia's corner.


Actually, it is Russia that has the advantage in conventional warfare. The US and it’s vassal states is really nothing but an empire of lies, and hile they historically have had a huge economical advantage the petro dollar is about to be cancelled.

For example, they have since march been saying that Russia is about to run out of its missiles. That was well before the british-ukranian terrorist attack on russian infrastructure, to which Russia responded with a missile offensive that is upheld to this day.

If you consider the latest US contribution of lethal aid to Ukraine, they are sending 80.000 155 mm artillery rounds. To put this into perspective, ukranians launch between 4000-6000 shells per day. So that is enough for 15-20 days for ukranians. It doesn’t even meet basic requirements while Russia fire 10 x as much daily.


this is absolutely fucking hilarious.

the latest shipment included 1,000,000 rounds of 155, 6,500 javelin missiles. more himars, more vehicles, more everything.

the uk has 5000 nlaws enroute.

the germans have just sent 90 upgraded leopard tanks.

poland is turning over all their remaining t-72's

sweden, although not a nato member yet, is sending sophisticated electronic weaponry and fighting vehicles.

i forgot to mention that the patriot anti-missile system is on the way replete with Ukrainians who have been training to use it for 4 months.


Territorial gains are not in the objective of the special military operation. Again, the objective of the special military operation is the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. In other words, Russia is fighting a war of attrition rather than territorial gains.

What does this mean in terms of how gains are counted? It means that russian gains are not counted in terms of territory but in the destruction of ukranian military personell and equipment. 100.000 ukranians are dead after having been thrown into the meat grinder.

As for Kherson the russians repelled every single ukranian attempt to advance then moved their forces into a more favourable position from which they continue their war of attrition.


this does not fit in with putin's statements in his speech above.

his strategy in the opening days of the war was an intended "blitzkrieg", or lightning war that failed miserably.

that's the point it became a war of attrition. it's obviously not the original intended strategy as you have inferred.

when examining the "attrited" losses it doesn't look like russia is the attritor. it's beginning to look like the attritee.

that's on the battlefield, but russia is attacking not just the military in ukraine, it is also attacking the civilian population.

by attacking the energy infrastructure and they have hit many civilian housing areas.

i'm not saying they are the only ones just that it is happening.
 
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Thats just some bs "news" website auto translating a romanian article that was translated from russian initially. Lots of things lost in translation. Also not official position of putin, just some local leader commenting..
 

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The Goldilocks War​


by Dmitry Orlov


Are you satisfied with the way the war in the former Ukraine is going?

Most people aren't, for one reason or another.

Some people hate that there is a war out there, while others love it but hate that it hasn't been won yet, one way or the other.

Abundant amounts of both types of haters are found on both sides of the new Iron Curtain that is hastily building across Eurasia between the collective West and the collective East. This seems reasonable; after all, hating war is standard procedure for most people (war is hell, don't you know!) and by extension a small war is better than a big one and a short war is better than 'a long. And also such reasoning is banal, mundane, platitudinous, tasteless, predictable, unimaginative and… brooding (according to the English Thesaurus).

It is rare to find a war observer who is satisfied with the course and duration of the war. Fortunately, Russian state television shows a very important one, almost daily. It's Russian President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. Having paid attention to him for more than twenty years now, I can say with certainty that he has never been so imbued with a calm and assured serenity lifted with a funny humor. This is not the behavior of someone who feels in danger of losing a war. Senior Department of Defense brass appear austere and sullen on camera – behavior befitting men who send other men to fight and possibly be injured or die; but off camera, they flash each other quick Mona Lisa smiles.

Given that Putin's approval rating remains at around 80% (a figure beyond the reach of any Western politician), it is reasonable to assume that he is just the tip of a gigantic iceberg of 100 millions of Russians who are calmly awaiting the successful conclusion of the special military operation to demilitarize and denazify the former Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.

These 100 million Russians are rarely heard, and when they make noise, it is to protest against bureaucratic hassles or to raise private funds to compensate for the shortage of certain specialized equipment requested by the troops: night vision goggles , quadrocopters, optical sights and all kinds of sophisticated tactical equipment.

Much more noise is made by the one or two percent whose entire business plan – business plan – has been destroyed by the sudden appearance of the new Iron Curtain. The stupidest of them thought that fleeing west or south (to Turkey, Kazakhstan or Georgia) would somehow magically solve their problem; it is not and it will not be.

The people who would be expected to shout the loudest are LGBTQ+ activists, who thought they were going to use Western grant money to build East Sodom and East Gomorrah. They have been shackled and muzzled by new Russian laws that label them foreign agents and prohibit their kind of propaganda. In fact, the very term LGBTQ+ is now illegal, and so I guess they'll have to use PPPPP+ instead (“P” is for “pídor”, which is the generic Russian term for any kind of sexual pervert, degenerate or deviant ). But I digress.

It is fairly easy to see that those who are the least satisfied with how the Russian campaign went are also the least likely to be Russian. Least fortunate of all are the brave folks at the Ukrainian Security Service's Political and Information Operations Center who are tasked with creating and maintaining the Ukrainian Victory Ghost. These are followed by people from Washington and the surrounding area, who are quite exasperated by the Russian dawdling and dragging. They also struggled to show that the Ukrainians win while the Russians lose; to that end, they portrayed every Russian tactical repositioning or tactical withdrawal as a huge and personally humiliating defeat for Putin and every relentless and suicidal Ukrainian attack on Russian positions as a great heroic victory.

To be fair, Russia's tactical cat-and-mouse games in this conflict have been nothing short of infuriating.

The Russians spent some time driving around kyiv to drive Ukrainian troops away from Donbass and prevent a Ukrainian attack on it; once that was done, they withdrew. Great Ukrainian victory!

They also spent time working around the Black Sea coast near Odessa, threatening seaborne invasion, to lure Ukrainian forces in that direction, but never invaded. Another Ukrainian victory!

The Russians occupied much of the Kharkov region which the Ukrainians left largely undefended and then, when the Ukrainians finally paid attention, partially retreated behind a river to conserve resources. Yet another Ukrainian victory!

The Russians occupied/liberated the regional capital of Kherson, evacuated all who wanted to be evacuated, then retreated to a defensible position behind a river. Victory again! With all these Ukrainian victories, it is truly amazing that the Russians managed to win about 100 km2 of the most valuable real estate of the former Ukraine, more than 6 million inhabitants, to secure a land route to Crimea and to open a vital channel that supplies irrigation. water and makes the water flow that the Ukrainians blocked a few years ago.

It doesn't look like a defeat at all; it looks like a great result of just one limited summer campaign.

Russia has already achieved several of its strategic goals; the rest can wait. How long do they have to wait? To answer this question, we must look beyond the limited scope of Russia's special operation in Ukraine. Russia has bigger fish to fry, and frying fish takes time because eating undercooked fish can give you nasty parasites such as tapeworm and liver fluke. And so, I would like to invite you to Mother Russia's secret kitchen, to see what's on the cutting board and to estimate how much heat treatment will be required to turn it all into a safe and nutritious meal.

Mixing our food metaphors, allow me to introduce you to Boucle d'Or with its three teddy bears and its neither too hot nor too cold porridge. What Russia seems to be doing is keeping its special military operation at a steady pace, neither too fast nor too slow. Going too fast would not allow enough time to cook the different fish; going too fast would also increase the cost of the campaign in casualties and resources. Going too slow would give the Ukrainians and NATO time to regroup and rearm and prevent the proper heat treatment of the various fish.

In an effort to find the optimal tempo for the conflict, Russia initially committed only a tenth of its professional soldiers to active duty, then worked hard to minimize the casualty rate. He chose to start turning off lights throughout former Ukraine only after the kyiv regime tried to blow up the Kerch Strait Bridge that linked Crimea to the Russian mainland. Finally, he only called up 1% of the reserves to relieve pressure from front line troops and potentially prepare for the next stage, which is a winter campaign – which the Russians are famous for.

With this background information presented, we can now list and describe the various secondary objectives that Russia plans to achieve in this Goldilocks War.

The first and perhaps the most important set of problems that Russia has to solve during the Goldilocks War is internal.

The aim is to reorganize the Russian society, economy and financial system in order to prepare them for a de-Westernized future. Since the collapse of the USSR, various Western agents, such as the National Endowment for Democracy, the US State Department, various Soros-owned foundations, and a wide range of Western grants and exchange programs have made serious breakthroughs in Russia. The overall goal was to weaken and eventually dismember and destroy Russia, turning it into a docile servant of Western governments and transnational corporations that would supply them with cheap labor and raw materials. To help this process, these Western organizations did everything they could to drive the Russian people towards eventual biological extinction and replace them with a more docile and less adventurous race.

For more than 30 years, Western NGOs have been corrupting the minds of young Russians. No effort has been spared to denigrate the value of Russian culture, to falsify Russian history, and to replace them with Western pop culture and propaganda narratives.

These initiatives had limited success, and the USSR and Soviet-era culture still remained popular, even among those who were too young to have experienced life in the USSR.

Where the damage has been most severe is in education. Excellent Soviet-era textbooks that taught students to think independently have been destroyed and replaced with imports. These were at best useful for training experts in narrowly defined fields who can follow previously defined procedures and recipes but cannot explain how those procedures and recipes were developed or create new ones. Russian teachers, who saw their job not just in education but in educating their students to become good Russians who love and cherish their country, were replaced by Western-trained educators who saw their mission as providing a competitive and market-based service by bringing in qualified, knowledgeable consumers

Who are these people ? Well, luckily the internet remembers everything, and there are plenty of other jobs for these people, like shoveling snow and fueling furnaces. But identifying and replacing them takes time, as does finding, updating, and reproducing old, great manuals.

But what about the young people left behind by this wave of destruction?

Fortunately, all is not lost.

The special military operation provides them with very valuable lessons that their ignorant educators have overlooked: that Russia – a unique and miraculous agglomeration of many different nations, languages and religions – has been preserved and enlarged over the centuries through the efforts of heroes whose names are not only remembered but revered. Moreover, some of them are alive today, fighting and working in the Donbass. It's one thing to visit museums, read old books and hear stories about the great deeds of grandfathers and great-grandfathers during the Great Patriotic War; it's quite another to see the story unfold through the eyes of one's own father or brother. Give it another year or two, and young Russians will learn to look with disdain at the products of Western-oriented Russian culture dealers. Their elders are already doing it: opinion polls show that a large majority of Russians perceive Western cultural influence as negative.

And what about those Russian culture mongers who have worshiped all things Western for as long as they can remember? Here a most curious thing happened. When the special military operation was first announced, they came out against it and in favor of the Ukrainian Nazis – a stupid thing to do, but they thought it was good and proper to keep their political views in line. harmony with those of their Western patrons and idols. to stay in their good graces. Some of them protested against the war (ignoring the fact that it had already been going on for eight long years). And then quite a few of them fled the country in unseemly haste.

Keep in mind that these aren't brain surgeons or rocket scientists: they're people prancing around the stage making noises with their hands and mouths; or it's people who sit there while makeup artists do things to their face and hair, then endlessly repeat lines written for them by someone else. They are not people who have the ability to analyze a delicate political situation and make the right choice. In an older, saner age their opinions would be firmly ignored, but the effect of the internet, social media and everything else is such that any hysterical moron can shoot a little video and millions of people , having nothing better to do with their time, will watch it on their phones and comment.

The fact that these people are voluntarily clearing the Russian media space of their presence is a positive development, but it takes time. If the special military operation were to end tomorrow, no doubt they would try to come back and pretend that none of this ever happened. And then Russian popular culture would remain a Western-style cesspool full of meaningless characters who seek to glorify every mortal sin in the name of personal notoriety and gain. Russia is full of talented people eager to take their place.

The emergence and dominance of pro-Western economic and financial elites has been particularly damaging to Russia's future. Since the anarchic and often criminal privatization of state resources in the 1990s, a whole cohort of powerful economic agents has emerged who do not have Russia's interests in mind. Instead, they are purely selfish economic actors who, until recently, believed that their ill-gotten gains would allow them to enter posh Western society. These people usually have more than one passport, they try to keep their families in a wealthy enclave outside of Russia, they send their children to Western schools and universities, and their only use for Russia is as a territory that they can leverage to create their wealth extraction plans.

When in response to the start of Russia's special military operation, the West launched a speculative attack on the rouble, forcing the Russian central bank to impose strict currency controls, these members of the Russian elite were forced to start thinking about a crucial choice. They could stay in Russia, but then they would have to cut their ties with the West; or they could move west and live off their savings, but then they would be cut off from the source of their wealth. Their choice was made easier by Western governments who worked hard to confiscate the assets of wealthy Russian nationals, freeze their bank accounts, and subject them to various other indignities and inconveniences.
Still, it's a tough choice for them to make — knowing that, despite their sometimes fabulous wealth, to the collective West they are just Russians who can be robbed. Many of them are not mentally prepared to engage with their own people, whom they have been taught to despise and exploit for personal gain. A quick victory in Russia's special military operation would make them think that their problems were temporary in nature. Given enough time, some of them will flee for good while others will decide to stay and work for the common good in Russia.

Next come various members of the Russian government who, having been trained in Western economics, are unable to understand the economic transformation taking place in Russia, let alone help it. Much of what passes for economic thought in the West is but an elaborate smokescreen on this basic saying: "The rich should be allowed to get richer, the poor should be kept poor, and government shouldn't try to help them (much).

It worked when the West had colonies to exploit, whether through old-fashioned imperial conquest, plunder and plunder, or through the financial neo-colonialism of Perkins' "economic hitmen" or, as the reluctantly admitted several senior EU officials recently, taking advantage of cheap Russian energy.

This no longer works, neither in the West, nor in Russia, nor elsewhere, and mentalities must adapt. There is a lot of inertia in appointments to government posts, where there are many vested interests vying for power and influence. It takes time for such fundamental ideas to permeate the system, such as the fact that the US Federal Reserve no longer has a planetary money-printing monopoly. Therefore, it is no longer necessary for the central bank of Russia to have dollars in reserve to cover its ruble issues in order to defend against speculative attacks since it is no longer necessary for the central bank of Russia to allow foreign currency speculators to run amok and stage speculative attacks.

But some results have already been achieved, and they are nothing short of spectacular: in recent months, a few well-chosen departures from Western economic orthodoxy have made the ruble the strongest currency in the world, allowed Russia to gain more export earnings by exporting less oil, gas and coal, and allowed him to bring inflation down to almost zero. Since the start of the special military operation, Russia has been able to significantly reduce its national debt and increase government revenue. A swift end to Russia's special military operation could spell the end of such miracles and a most unwelcome return to the unsustainable status quo ante.

Beyond the intangible world of finance, equally significant shifts have taken place in Russia's physical economy as a whole. Previously, many economic sectors, including the sale of cars, construction and home improvement, software development and many others, were owned by foreigners and the profits from these activities left the country. And then a decision was taken to block the expatriation of dividends. In response, foreign companies sold their Russian assets, taking a huge loss and foregoing access to the Russian market. The change has been quite amazing. For example, at the beginning of 2022, Western automakers held a significant share of the Russian auto market. Most of the cars sold had been assembled in Russia at foreign-owned factories, and the profits from those sales were expatriated. Now, less than a year later, European and American automakers have all but disappeared from Russia, replaced by a rapidly resurgent domestic auto industry. Chinese automakers immediately grabbed a large market share, while South Korea continued to trade with Russia and retained its market share.

Equally astonishing were the changes in the aviation industry. Previously, Russian airlines flew Airbuses and Boeings, most of them leased. After the start of the special operation, Western politicians demanded that these leases be terminated and the planes be returned to their owners, neglecting to take into account that this would be financially ruinous (clogging the market for second-hand planes for years to come and destroying the demand for new aircraft) and, moreover, physically impossible, since there was no way to effect the transfer of the aircraft. In response, Russian airlines nationalized the aircraft registry, stopped flying to hostile destinations where their planes might be stopped, and began making rental payments in rubles to special accounts at the Russian central bank.

Then came the news that Aeroflot planned to buy more than 300 new passenger planes, all Russian МС-21s, SSJ-100s and Tu-214s, all before 2030, with the first deliveries scheduled for 2023. There was a scramble to replace nearly all Western sourced components, such as composites for the MC-21's carbon fiber wing and jet engines, avionics and more for all of the above. During this period, many previously leased Boeings and Airbuses will be phased out, but the market share of these companies in the world's largest country will disappear forever. Damage to Western aircraft manufacturers will match damage to Western airlines. At the outbreak of hostilities, the collective West closed its airspace to Russia, and Russia returned the favor. The problem is that Europe is small and easy to navigate while Russia is huge and it takes a whole day to walk around. European airlines suddenly found they couldn't compete on routes to Japan, China or Korea.

After the closure of the airspace came other sanctions, both from the European Union and the United States, all illegal, since the UN Security Council is the only body empowered to impose sanctions. Currently, the European Union is working on the ninth sanctions package, all of which have been called "sanctions from hell". Speaking of hell, “Inferno” by Dante Alighieri, there are nine circles of hell, so maybe the juggernaut of sanctions is about to run its course.

These sanctions were supposed to have quickly destroyed the Russian economy and caused so much social upheaval and suffering that the people would gather in Red Square and overthrow the dreaded dictator Putin (or so Western foreign policy experts thought). Clearly, no such thing happened and Putin's approval rating is higher than ever.

On the other hand, the good people of the European Union are indeed beginning to suffer. They can no longer afford to heat their homes or take regular hot showers, food has become outrageously expensive for them and so many other things are going wrong that huge crowds of protesters have gathered across Europe demanding , among other things, an end to anti-Russian sanctions, normalization of relations with Russia and a return to the status quo. Their demands are unlikely to be met,

But there is a more important reason why the sanctions will remain: a return to the status quo would mean that Russia would again supply energy and raw materials to Europe at lower cost while allowing European companies to benefit from the work of the Russians. This is quite unpleasant and therefore unlikely to happen. Russia is using the sanctions as an opportunity to rebuild its domestic industry and redirect its trade away from hostile nations towards friendly nations that are fair and sympathetic in their dealings with Russia. He is also working hard to phase out the use of currencies that Dmitry Medvedev called “toxic”; namely, the US dollar and the euro.

Add to this list a wonderful new Russian innovation called “parallel import”. If a company, in compliance with anti-Russian sanctions, refuses to sell its products to Russia or to service or upgrade its products in Russia, then Russia will purchase those products and upgrades from a third party, a fourth or fifth without US, EU or manufacturer authorization. If a certain branded product becomes unavailable, the Russians simply rename the brand and manufacture the same product themselves, or ask the Chinese or another business partner to do it for them. And if the West refuses to license its intellectual property to Russia, then that intellectual property becomes free in Russia.

It works especially well with software: free copies of branded software are just as good as paid copies, and if tech support, training, or other related services become unavailable from the West, the Russians just organize their own. .

Intellectual property of all kinds constitutes a large part of Western theoretical wealth, and Western sanctions have the effect of allowing Russia to use it for free. Thanks to modern digital technology, it also works quite well with hardware. Instead of painstaking reverse engineering of products, the same effect can now be achieved by purchasing the 3D models on a USB stick and 3D printing them or automatically generating the milling and drilling paths to create them on an NC milling machine . Putin likes to use the phrase “tsap-tsarap” to describe this process. It is difficult to translate directly but concerns the act of a cat snatching its prey with its claws. In short, what Russia once had to pay is now, thanks to the sanctions, free.

Since the Goldilocks War is, after all, a kind of war, we must briefly discuss its military aspects.

Here too, a stable as you go approach seems to be the most copacetic. The stated objective is to demilitarize and denazify the former Ukraine, and to some extent this has already been achieved: most of the armor and artillery that Ukraine inherited from the USSR has already been destroyed ; most hardline Nazi battalions are either dead or a shadow of their former selves. Most of the volunteers who fought on the Ukrainian side also left.

After more than 100 Ukrainian soldiers "have been killed" since February 000 (as bluntly declared, then timidly denied, by the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen), and after perhaps until half a million victims, escapes of men of service age bribing them to leave the country, these are heavy losses. With well over a hundred Ukrainian casualties a day, the pickings are sure to dwindle over time. Foreign mercenaries have been used to fill the void – Anglos, Poles, Romanians – but there is a major problem with them: as Julius Caesar pointed out, many people are willing to kill for money but no one wants to die for money – except one idiot, I might add. And on the Russian NATO front, an idiot and his life are soon separated.

Right now, there's still no shortage of idiots on the Ukrainian side – yet – and there's also no shortage of donated western weapons. First came Soviet-era tanks and other used weapon systems donated from all over Eastern Europe; then came the real Western weapon systems. And now, everywhere in NATO, we hear plaintive cries that they have nothing more to give to the Ukrainians: the closet is empty. They also cannot craft more weapons in a hurry. To start producing weapons at the same rate as Russia, these NATO members would first have to re-industrialize, and there are neither the human resources nor the money to do so. And so the Russian army goes, demilitarizing Ukraine, and the rest of NATO with it.

Maybe it's mission creep, or maybe it's always been the plan, but what Russia is doing at this point is destroying NATO. You may recall that a year ago Russia demanded that the United States honor certain security guarantees it had made as a condition of allowing the peaceful reunification of Germany; namely that NATO would not expand eastward. "Not an inch to the east" is how the official minutes of the meeting read. Gorbachev and Shevardnadze failed to put this agreement on paper and sign it, but a verbal agreement is an agreement. A year ago, Russia's offer was quite moderate: that NATO withdraw to its pre-1997 borders, when it expanded into Eastern Europe.

But, as usually happens when negotiating with the Russians, their initial offer is usually the best. As far as we know, based on the way things are going in Ukraine, Russia's best final offer may require the complete dissolution of NATO. After all, the Warsaw Pact dissolved 31 years ago, but NATO is still here and bigger than ever; Why ? Fight Russia? So what are they waiting for? Come and get it ! It may not even take the form of a negotiation. For example, Russia might say, give Latvia a quick jab (it deserves a jab or two for abusing its large native Russian population the Nazi way) and then step back and say, "Come on, NATO , come and die heroically on our doorstep for poor little Latvia! At this, NATO officials will stand united but very quiet, scrutinizing their own shoes and those of others.

Finally, we come to what is perhaps the least important reason for the Goldilocks War: old Ukraine itself. Considering Russia's other strategic goals, it looks more like a sacrificial piece in a game of chess. Given what Russia has already achieved in the past nine months – four new Russian regions, six million new Russian citizens, a land bridge to Crimea, Crimea's irrigation water supply – it much remains to be done militarily for Russia before its military campaign. reaches the stage of diminishing returns. Adding the Nikolaev and Odessa regions and full control of the Black Sea coastline would, of course, be most valuable; control of Kharkov and kyiv a little less. Control of the entire Dnieper hydroelectric cascade is an undeniable advantage.

Allow me to divulge a personal detail or two. Two of my grandparents were from Zhitomir, my father was born in kyiv, my first romantic interest was a girl from Odessa, and over the years I had so many friends from Odessa, Kharkov, Lvov, kyiv, Donetsk, Vinnitsa and elsewhere like everywhere else in Russia. Russia? You read that right: there is no way to convince me that the so-called "Ukrainian territory" is not Russia or that the people who live there are not Russian, no matter what some of they have recently been brainwashed into thinking. What's more, none of these people I've known over the years have ever considered themselves the least bit Ukrainian and they would probably view the very idea of a Ukrainian nationalist identity as symptomatic of a mental state disturbs. The label "Ukrainian" was for them Bolshevik nonsense.

If in doubt, let's apply the good old duck test: do the people there walk, gossip and look like Russians? All of this territory, with one minor exception in the far west, was part of Russia for ten to three centuries; most people there, and virtually all of the urban population, speak Russian as their mother tongue; their religion is predominantly Russian Orthodox; they are genetically indistinguishable from the rest of the Russian population. So what happened to them?

Unfortunately, a small part of this Russian land spent three centuries in captivity in the Austro-Hungarian Empire or as part of Greater Poland, and this poisoned their minds with foreign ideas such as Catholicism and ethnic nationalism. Unlike Russia, which is a multinational, multi-ethnic and religiously diverse monolith, the West is a mosaic of ethnic nationalisms, and where there are nationalists there can be Nazis, ethnic cleansing and a genocide.

Like a drop of poison infects the whole barrel of wine, these Western Ukrainians, with much help and funds from the German Nazis, and then from the Americans and Canadians, managed to infect a large part of the former territory Ukrainian with a false nationalism based on a forged history and a haphazardly concocted culture. Official bans on education and ultimately the use of Russian have spawned a generation of young people who are essentially illiterate in their native Russian. They are taught in Ukrainian, but Ukrainian literacy is close to an oxymoron, since nothing of significance has ever been written or published in that language and the vast majority of Ukrainian literary works are, you guessed it, in Russian.

The Russian special military operation underway since February 2022 has polarized the entire population. Those who had decided to be with Russia in 2014 were obviously delighted to finally be able to get help from Russia. The now Russian regions of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson happily voted to join Russia. But when it comes to the rest of the former Ukrainian territory, the polarization is mostly in the opposite direction. Those who wanted to be with Russia mostly voted with their feet and now live somewhere in Russia.

It's something time alone can fix. Eventually, the people of the former Ukraine will be forced to make a choice: they can be Russian, or they can be refugees somewhere in Europe, or they can die fighting Russians at the front. Note that even Donetsk and Lugansk did not make this choice right away, unlike Crimea. At that time, only about 70% of their population was in favor of leaving Ukraine and joining Russia. It took eight years of incessant Ukrainian bombing to convince them to make this choice.

In those intervening years, diehard “Ukrainians” filtered out, leaving behind a near 100% pro-Russian population. Only then did the Kremlin grant them official recognition, send troops to defend them from an impending invasion, and soon after accept them into the Russian Federation.

And now the same type of sorting operation is to take place in the rest of the former Ukraine. How long will it take? Only time will tell, but it is already clear that when it comes to Russia, there is no compelling reason to rush.

 

delta9nxs

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Thats just some bs "news" website auto translating a romanian article that was translated from russian initially. Lots of things lost in translation. Also not official position of putin, just some local leader commenting..
of course, but it is all over the news.

nowhere did i say that it was putin's view.

it was on russian tv first. everyone else just showed it to the world.
 
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anti-fascist
adjective
(also anti-Fascist, antifascist)

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/ˌæn.t̬iˈfæʃ.ɪst/ UK

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That is a very broad "government" and covers a lot of ground.

Anti-fascism has been an element of movements across the political spectrum and holding many different political positions such as anarchism, communism, pacifism, republicanism, social democracy, socialism and syndicalism as well as centrist, conservative, liberal and nationalist viewpoints.

Does Russia have a constitution?
 
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He must have been listening to this fellow american of yours.

 

delta9nxs

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he's not mine! he's a well-known traitor here. the only people who listen to him here are dumbass trump supporters who now hate their own country because the orangutan is done and gone forever.

he worked for putin and everyone here knows it. he will never get close to power again. trump tried repeatedly to dismantle nato.

but you are right about escalation. it's about to get real escalated.

the Ukrainians have been timing the delivery of weapons to coincide with the ground freezing in late dec or early jan to begin more counterattacks.

i study war strategy as a hobby. my favorite period is ww2. I'm not as interested in the land battles as i am the air and naval campaigns.

it's like a big, for real. game of chess, which was also a hobby of mine for years.

looking at the current map of Ukraine, i think the next step for the Ukrainians will be to cut the southern front into 2 pieces by taking Melitopol.

melitopol is known as the "gateway to crimea".

how do i think this war will end?

as i mentioned earlier the front lines are in a virtual stalemate right now.

both sides are fighting hard to hold ground that is not really meaningful strategically.

but it is a struggle to take as much ground as possible before negotiations begin.

i think there will be a negotiated settlement.

putin has called up another 200,000 men to replace losses.

there is activity in belarus again. it is thought that the russians will stage another attempt to take kiev from the north.

but kiev has now recruited a total of 750,000 personnel since the war started. some are being trained in large groups in nato countries right now.

russia used 200,000 in the initial attack, then mobilized 350,000.

why did he have to mobilize 350,000 if the attack was going as planned?

the mobilized people were sent into battle with very little equipment or training.

now he is bringing up another 200,000. this does not look planned as they are not trained either.

it all looks like emergency decisions made late in the game.

but even if we assume all of the russians involved are still alive and effective on the battlefield, which would be some kind of miracle, that would give the russians about 750,000 as well.

this is going to be a slugfest of a war. unless it is stopped soon half a million people will die on both sides.

this is an incredibly stupid loss of life.
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
Not only are the corrupt American politicians trying to cover-up or destroy the evidence of their looting of Ukraine under the puppet stripper, they are protecting the interests of the criminals that finance them.

Here is to hoping Putin took the 17 million acres.

 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
The biden administration is disarming the American military by sending it all to Ukraine. From there the arms are scattered around the world. the stash biden left in Afghanistan was pretty big also.

Arming the world, disarming America. Nice job joe.
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
It's also illegal to take 5 billion euros from the Privat Bank to the Zuidas in A'dam like Kolomoisky did.
Btw miss Zelenska did spend $40.000 in Paris this week according to some news stations.

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delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
Veteran
disarming the american military? just how uninformed are you?

you're obviously another disgruntled trump humper!


here's another opportunity to give money to trump and get nothing in return.

and here's a list of the top military budgets in the world. disarming america?


RankCountrySpending
(US$ bn)
% of GDP% of global spending
World total
2,113
2.2
100%​
1 United States United States
801.0​
3.2​
38%​
2 China China[a]
293.0​
1.7​
14%​
3 India India
76.6​
2.4​
3.6%​
4 United Kingdom United Kingdom
68.4​
2.1​
3.2%​
5 Russia Russia
65.9​
3.1​
3.1%​
6 France France
56.6​
2.0​
2.7%​
7 Germany Germany
56.0​
1.4​
2.7%​
8 Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia[a]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures#cite_note-y-8
 
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