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War

Montuno

...como el Son...
​​​​​​THE FALKLANDS WAR
THE MILITARY CONFRONTATION, WHICH ONLY LASTED 72 DAYS, CONFIRMED THE HEGEMONY OF THE UNITED KINGDOM AND THE DECLINE OF THE ARGENTINE MILITARY DICTATODICTATORSHIP




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[FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansextrabold]THE FALKLANDS WAR[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sanslight]THE MILITARY CONFRONTATION, WHICH ONLY LASTED 72 DAYS, CONFIRMED THE HEGEMONY OF THE UNITED KINGDOM AND THE DECLINE OF THE ARGENTINE MILITARY DICTATORSHIP[/FONT][/FONT]






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[FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sanssemibold]CARLOS E. CUE[/FONT]
Correspondent of EL PAÍS in Buenos Aires[/FONT]



[FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]MALVINAS, THE RATTLE OF THE ARGENTINE DICTATORSHIP[/FONT][/FONT]


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[FONT=open_sansregular]The Argentine dictatorship , which had been in power for six years and had thousands of deaths behind it, took him as its lifeline, but in the end it accelerated its fall. That April 2, 1982, when the assault on the Malvinas Islands took place , Argentina suffered from an unsustainable social situation: 90% inflation, impoverishment, skyrocketing debt. The military did not know what to do to stay in power. And Leopoldo Galtieri, who had been at the head of the regime for less than a year , decided that attacking the Malvinas, a historical claim of Argentina such as Spain's with Gibraltar, was the best way to distract attention and seek popular support. His immediate success was total. The squares were filled with Argentines whocheered on their heroes in Malvinas. “If they want to come, let them come, we will give them a fight,” Galtieri bellowed.[/FONT]
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[FONT=open_sansregular]Malvinas Locator[/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular]But the calculation error was total. The military were convinced that Margaret Thatcher, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, would do nothing for lost islands with 2,000 inhabitants. They also believed that US President Ronald Reagan would support the Argentine dictatorship, a battering ram against left-wing movements on the continent. The conversation the night before the invasion must have given Galtieri pause. Reagan called him indignantly and warned him: “North American and world public opinion will adopt a negative attitude towards the use of force by Argentina. Great Britain, Mr. President, is a very close friend of the United States and the new relationship that Washington maintains today with Buenos Aires, achieved after a long effort made before public opinion, will be irremediably affected”, he told him.[/FONT]
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[FONT=open_sansregular]The Argentine dictator Galtieri[/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular]“The dictatorship made a mistake, it was all improvised, there were even combatants who died of hunger. Most of them were very young, boys from the interior who were doing compulsory military service,” recalls Mario Volpe, a former combatant who is deputy director of the Malvinas Institute of the National University of La Plata. “Argentina was not prepared to fight the British army, which also had the support of the United States. It was impossible to win. In addition to Thatcher, who was sinking in the polls, it served to recover her image [thanks to that victory she won the 1983 elections ]. That is why she decided to continue the war to the end. It was a conflict that was good for both of them, Thatcher and the dictatorship,” says Volpe. “But the defeat made Galtieri resignand accelerated the democratization process”, he recalls.[/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sanslight][FONT=open_sanslight][FONT=open_sanslight]"THE DICTATORSHIP WAS WRONG, IT[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sanslight][FONT=open_sanslight]WAS ALL IMPROVISED,[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sanslight][FONT=open_sanslight]THERE WERE EVEN COMBATANTS[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sanslight][FONT=open_sanslight]WHO DIED OF HUNGER"[/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=open_sansregular]It was a debacle for Argentina. A definitive humiliation for the military who ran the country with an iron hand and thousands of disappeared. But also a tragedy. 649 Argentine soldiers died , 255 British and 3 civilians who lived on the island. The dictatorship fell, and in 1983 Argentina regained democracy . But the vindication of the sovereignty of the Malvinas did not stop. All the children in the country do work in their schools on the Malvinas, there are streets dedicated to the combatants in every town and near Buenos Aires there is even a huge municipality called Malvinas argentinas. The claim is more alive than ever. No party dares to discuss it, in a matter that has unanimity political and social, one of the few in Argentina that achieves it.[/FONT]
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[FONT=open_sansregular]Falkland Islands landscape.[/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular]The tension with the United Kingdom has been lowered by the decision of Mauricio Macri, but the conflict continues. London has no intention of giving in, the kelpers, as the island's inhabitants are called, want to remain British and Argentina knows that things are very difficult. No one thinks of a new conflict. The latter taught a hard lesson to the Argentines. But the pressure will continue, now with a new much more pragmatic objective: the possibility that there is oil in the waters near the islands.[/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sanslight]THE ORIGINS OF THE WAR[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=open_sansregular]The war between the Argentine Republic and the United Kingdom occurred between April 2, 1982, the date of the invasion of the islands, and June 14, when the end of hostilities was agreed. The origin of the dispute was the attempt, by the Argentine dictatorship, to recover the sovereignty of the archipelago—with an area greater than that of the Community of Madrid and with a population, today, of just over 3,000 inhabitants. —.[/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]GREAT BRITAIN WILL RECOGNIZE ARGENTINE SOVEREIGNTY[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]TWO INCIDENTS REOPEN THE DISPUTE[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]THE CONFLICT OVER THE MALVINAS INTENSIFIES[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]RUPTURE OF DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]SPAIN, FAVORABLE TO DECOLONIZATION[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]AN ARGENTINE GENERAL, NEW GOVERNOR OF THE MALVINAS[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]THE MALVINAS, BETWEEN REASON AND FORCE[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]NATIONALIST FERVOR THROUGHOUT ARGENTINE SOCIETY[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]THE BRITISH FEEL HUMILIATED[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]THE INVASION OF THE FALKLANDS CAN PROVOKE A WAR[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]DRIVING ON THE LEFT, A FORM OF RESISTANCE[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]DIPLOMACY BECOMES THE PROTAGONIST[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]UK TO DECLARE ISLANDS 'WAR ZONE'[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]THE CLIMATE OF WAR SEIZES ARGENTINE SOCIETY[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sanslight]THE DECLINE OF THE ARGENTINE DICTATORSHIP[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=open_sansregular]The effects of the Malvinas war were the most varied. On the military front, it became clear that air-naval weapons had barely evolved since the Second World War. The ironclad Argentine regime was ridiculed and the democratic transition was accelerated. However, more than three decades after the conflict, during the Kirchnerist era, the sovereignty claims did not decline. It has been with the new president, Mauricio Macri, with whom the tension has been reduced.[/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]WITH OR WITHOUT THE FALKLANDS[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]WAR OF NERVES[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]THE REPERCUSSION OF THE CONFLICT IN SPAIN[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]ARGUMENTS TO DEFEND ARGENTINE SOVEREIGNTY[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]UNEQUAL DEPLOYMENT OF FORCES[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]THE SHAMEFUL WAR OF WESTERN SOCIETY[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]COLONIALISM OR NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]DENUNCIATIONS TO "THIS REST OF COLONIALISM"[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]BRITISH-ARGENTINE DIFFERENCES[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]'THE PRESTIGE OF DEATH', BY FERNANDO SAVATER[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]14,800 ARGENTINE SOLDIERS SURRENDERED[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]ARGENTINES BEGIN TO DEMAND RESPONSIBILITIES[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]MASS SUICIDE OF WHALES[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=open_sansregular] [/FONT][FONT=open_sansregular][FONT=open_sansbold]THE FALKLANDS, A YEAR LATER[/FONT][/FONT]
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
Operation Algeciras aka Operation Gibraltar

Operation Algeciras or Operation Gibraltar was a frustrated Argentine military plan , of a commando type, that was attempted to be carried out covertly and unofficially during the Malvinas War in 1982 , in Spanish territory . Its —unfinished— tactical objective was to sabotage the British Royal Navy , trying to sink any warship with underwater mines at the British base in Gibraltar and prevent its march to the Malvinas Islands . scene of the war conflict. The plan would be carried out through the action of tactical divers and the use of underwater mines of Italian origin.

'HMS Hecla' at Gibraltar Naval Base, during conversion to a hospital ship for service during the Falklands War (1982). In that war, Gibraltar was the object of an Argentine sabotage attempt.



Location of Gibraltar , in the Bay of Algeciras .




military coverageEditThe operation was approved by Admiral Jorge Isaac Anaya , who kept it a secret from most of his comrades. The military managed to convince two former members of the Peronist guerrilla Montoneros that they had underwater experience, despite the repression of the guerrillas. One of the commandos was Máximo Alfredo Nicoletti, a tactical diver and former guerrilla who worked for the Navy's intelligence service. The planners would deny any involvement of Argentine officials.
From Spanish territory, a three-man force (two Montoneros and an Argentine liaison officer) monitored British naval traffic around Gibraltar, preparing to attack a target on command, using Italian frogmen and mines. They expected the arrival of HMS Ariadne as the first target. [SUP][ 1[/SUP] ]


FailureEditHowever, the plan failed after British intelligence intercepted and deciphered communications between Buenos Aires and the Argentine embassy in Madrid and informed the Spanish government (¿?), which arrested the team. The arrest was carried out by the Ministry of the Interior without involving the Superior Center for Defense Information, ( CESID ), the Spanish intelligence agency.
What made this operation impossible was an almost fortuitous incident. On May 31, 1982, two Spanish police officers stopped a rented car in Malaga in which two Argentines were traveling who had raised suspicions due to the expenses they were making. They stayed in a hotel as tourists and were thought to be drug traffickers.
The paradoxical fact occurred that, in order not to attract attention, all the equipment acquired to carry out the operation was not bought in a specialized establishment, but in a department store located in Malaga and called El Corte Inglés .
When the Spanish police arrested the Argentines, they tried to continue the operation at any cost. That is why the captain of the operation asked to speak alone with the commissioner , with whom he had the following conversation:

I am Captain Fernández, of the Argentine Navy, and I am on a secret mission. From this moment I consider myself a prisoner of war and I will not say another word.

" If you're an Argentine sailor, I'm the Pope 's nephew ," replied the commissioner, smiling, and ordered the police to arrest the other two Argentines who were waiting at the hotel in the town of San Roque .
When the members of the operation were captured, they realized that the arrest process was going to take a long time, so they asked the policemen to have lunch with them. According to the same members of the operation, " It was a very fun lunch, the Spanish policemen regretted that this fact had reached their superiors, and if it had not, they would have set them free, " recalled the members of the operation.
" The Spaniards treated us very well ," said members of the commando in an interview. One of them came and said to them: « Man, if I had known that you were going to sink an English ship I would leave you. After all, the Rock of Gibraltar is also territory usurped by England ». After lunch, the captain and the former guerrillas were transported to Málaga .
Leopoldo Calvo-Sotelo , the president of the Spanish government, who was in the area in the middle of an electoral campaign tour, ordered the incident covered up and reserved eight seats on the charter flight he was using, so that the three Argentines and the four police officers could return to Madrid along with him. Already in Madrid he boarded them on a flight to Buenos Aires .
They were accompanied to the Canary Islands by the Spanish policemen and then continued their journey alone.


EvaluationEditThe reasons why this operation could not be carried out are many, it is said that if the group had been provided with a military map instead of a tourist map, they would have carried good quality forged passports (not like the ones they carried, that already generated suspicion in France , the first destination of the members of the operation), and had used credit cards instead of cash, the story would have had a different outcome.
On the other hand, operations of this caliber are usually planned by a specialized group, in which one performs the tasks related to reconnaissance and another executes the operation.


on videoEditIn 2003 , an Argentine-Spanish documentary was shot, Operación Algeciras (see documentary) , which tells the story of this covert operation .

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oper...%B3n_Algeciras



Operation Algeciras was a foiled Argentine plan to sabotage a Royal Navy warship in Gibraltar during the Falklands War. The Argentine reasoning was that if the British military felt vulnerable in Europe, they would decide to keep some vessels in European waters rather than send them to the Falklands.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP]
Part of the Falklands War
Argentine diversionary sabotage
Algeciras, Cádiz; Bay of Gibraltar
Admiral Jorge Anaya
Diversion of British resources through sabotage of a Royal Navy warship
24 April – 4 May 1982
Peronist Montonero Movement
Unit captured before execution

Gibraltar

A commando team observed British naval traffic in the area from Spain during 1982, waiting to attack a target of opportunity when ordered, using frogmen and Italian limpet mines.[SUP][4][/SUP]

The plan was to launch divers from Algeciras, have them swim across the bay, to Gibraltar, under cover of darkness, attach the mines to a British naval ship and swim back to Algeciras. The timed detonators would cause the mines to explode after the divers had time to safely swim back across the bay. The plan was foiled when the Spanish police became suspicious of their behaviour and arrested them before any attack could be mounted.
BackgroundEditPlanningEdit


The operation was conceived, ordered and directly managed by Admiral Jorge Anaya, who at the time was a member of the National Reorganization Process and head of the Argentine Navy.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP] The plan was top secret and not shared with other members of the government. Anaya summoned to his office Admiral Eduardo Morris Girling, who was responsible for the Naval Intelligence Service, and explained to him the convenience of hitting the Royal Navy in Europe. Girling would be the one who would make the plan and select the participants but Anaya remained in charge of the operation throughout.

Striking in the United Kingdom was considered at first but it was thought that the commandos would have difficulty remaining unnoticed and Spain was chosen because the commandos could more easily pass unnoticed as tourists.
ParticipantsEdit


The leader of the operation was Héctor Rosales, a spy and former naval officer. He was in charge but would not participate in the actual placing of the mines which was left to the experts. Three former members of the Peronist guerrilla Montoneros were convinced to participate in spite of the earlier repression of the Montoneros by the military.

The leader of the commandos was Máximo Nicoletti, a diver and expert in underwater explosives. His father served in the Italian Navy's underwater demolition team during the Second World War and thereafter owned a diving business. In the early '70s Nicoletti had joined the Montoneros and engaged in urban actions labelled terrorist by the military junta. On 1 November 1974, Nicoletti placed a remote-controlled bomb under the yacht of the police chief of the Argentine Federal Police, Alberto Villar, who was killed together with his wife.

On 22 September 1975, while the destroyer ARA Santísima Trinidad was still under construction in Buenos Aires, Nicoletti placed an explosive charge under the hull which caused it to sink. Later in the decade, Nicoletti was arrested by the infamous Grupo de Tareas 3.3.2 of the Navy Mechanics School, but escaped serious punishment by cooperating with the authorities.

Soon, due to his cooperation and expertise, he managed to get himself appointed to carry out a similar submarine attack against a Chilean ship because tensions between Chile and Argentina were high due to the Beagle dispute. This attack was not carried out in the end because the disagreement between Chile and Argentina was finally resolved peacefully. Nicoletti was then sent to Venezuela as a spy but he was discovered and had to return to Argentina. Shortly after he settled in Miami, but when he heard of the Argentine invasion of the Falkland Islands he immediately got in touch with the Argentinian government in case his services were needed and he was instructed to return to Buenos Aires.

The other two commandos, both also ex-Montoneros, were Antonio Nelson Latorre and another man who went by "Marciano," while remaining anonymous to this day. Both had participated with Nicoletti in earlier sabotage plans. In the event of capture, Argentina would deny all knowledge. The agents were to say they were Argentine patriots acting on their own. They had orders not to do anything which could involve or embarrass Spain, to sink a British naval vessel and to get express approval from Anaya before carrying out any attack.

When planning the operation in Argentina it was decided that acquiring or manufacturing explosives in Spain would prove too difficult and so two explosive mines with timed detonators would be shipped to Spain via diplomatic pouch and would be delivered to the commando group in Spain. Italian limpet mines were acquired for this purpose and shipped to Spain in diplomatic pouch as planned.
Situation in SpainEdit


At that time the political climate in Spain was unstable with the government of Leopoldo Calvo Sotelo having political difficulties on many fronts, including with the military who mistrusted him. The trials for those responsible for the military coup attempt of 23-F a year earlier were concluding and this further raised tensions. The Basque terror group, Euskadi Ta Askatasuna, were very active and police checkpoints were common.

The upcoming 1982 FIFA World Cup in Spain meant the police were very alert to any suspicious or terrorist activity. The police requested that everybody remain vigilant, and that people should report anything unusual, especially within the travel industry.
ExecutionEditInfiltrationEdit


The commandos were issued counterfeit Argentine passports under false names and marked with false earlier entry stamps to Spain. This was done so the Argentine government could deny any involvement in case the commandos were discovered, and the passports were made by another former Montonero, Víctor Basterra.[SUP][7][/SUP]

On 24 April, Nicoletti and Latorre left Buenos Aires for Paris where Latorre's passport raised the suspicions of French authorities, but they were allowed to continue their onward travel by air to Málaga.[SUP][7][/SUP] They carried the closed-circuit, military scuba gear in their luggage and passed through Spanish customs control without raising suspicion. They carried a substantial amount of US dollars and paid for everything in cash. They both checked into a hotel in Estepona and spent some days reconnoitring the area, after which they travelled to Madrid in a rented car to meet Rosales and Marciano. They then rented another two cars whilst in Madrid and went to the office of the Argentine Naval attaché to pick up the mines.

While in Spain, the commando communicated daily by telephone with the Naval Attaché of the Argentine Embassy in Madrid, who in turn would relay everything back to his superiors in Buenos Aires. The four-man commando group, travelling in three cars, moved southwards along the main roads. The mines were carried in a bag in the boot of a car, yet their shape and appearance would clearly indicate they were explosives if anyone saw them. While cover stories could be plausibly invented for the specialised military scuba gear, there was no way to explain the explosives, so they were careful to avoid the Spanish police on the roads.

They travelled to the south of Spain separately, with Nicoletti going ahead as a scout and the other two cars ten minutes apart. They had no way to communicate between cars except visually. Nicoletti encountered a police block and turned around to warn his accomplices, but even though he signalled them, the first car behind him did not see him and continued until the police checkpoint and turned around. They all met up again, their U-turns having gone unnoticed by the police officers manning the road-check. They then continued south using minor roads to minimise the chance of running into further police activity.
AlgecirasEdit


When they were near Algeciras, they booked separately into three different hotels in the town, and changed hotels often over the next few weeks. They paid their bills weekly in cash, which after a while raised suspicions, and led to their arrests. They kept the explosives in one of the cars and used the other two only for transport. For the first few days, they surveyed Algeciras bay in search of the best place to enter the water and to observe the maritime traffic in and out of Gibraltar. There was not as much British security in Gibraltar as they had expected: two sentry posts were unmanned, and only one small Royal Navy patrol craft was observed guarding the waters of the port.

They bought an inflatable raft to cross part of the bay, and a telescope and fishing tackle to give cover to their activities. The plan was to enter the water at 18:00, swim across, plant the mines around midnight, and swim back by about 05:00. The mines would explode a short while afterwards. They would then drive north to Barcelona, cross into France, then Italy, and fly back to Argentina from there.
Aborted attemptsEdit


The first opportunity came when a British minesweeper entered Gibraltar, but Anaya considered the target not to be worth the effort. A few days later Nicoletti suggested sinking a large oil tanker with non-British flag, as it would block the port of Gibraltar, but Anaya decided against it, since an oil spill and environmental disaster could provoke outrage in Spain, especially if it damaged the tourism industry, and it could affect other Mediterranean countries.

For weeks the commandos continued their routine of changing hotels and renewing their car rental. During this time the British task force was already sailing south towards the Falklands. Finally a high-value target, the frigate HMS Ariadne, arrived in Gibraltar on 2 May 1982, but Anaya again refused permission to attack it, this time because the President of Peru, Fernando Belaúnde, had just produced a comprehensive peace plan and Anaya believed this might produce a peaceful resolution to the conflict, which could be undermined by a successful attack in Gibraltar.

Later that day, the Argentine cruiser ARA General Belgrano was attacked and sunk by the British attack submarine HMS Conqueror, with substantial loss of life to the Argentine Armed Forces. The following day, 3 May, Nicoletti anticipated that permission would now be granted by Anaya as fighting had now had broken out in the South Atlantic Ocean, and he asked if the team could claim to be acting for the Argentine military if they were caught. This was refused but they were ordered to execute the plan of attack.
OutcomeEditCaptureEdit


The following day, Nicoletti slept late, as he usually did because the plan was to act at night, while Latorre and Rosales went to the car rental agency to extend the rental for another week. The owner of the rental business, Manuel Rojas, had become suspicious on previous encounters. He noticed that the man had keys with him for cars rented in other car rental businesses, that he always paid in cash using US dollars and that he never came in exactly when he said he would but rather would come in earlier or later.

Because of this, Rojas had notified the police, who asked him to call them next time the man came by and to try to keep him there until they arrived. Rojas notified the police and the men were arrested. The police then went to arrest the other two men and they found Nicoletti and Marciano still asleep. The police initially thought they had a gang of common criminals but, in spite of the orders not to do so, Nicoletti soon stated that they were Argentine agents.

The Minister of Interior, Juan José Rosón, instructed Málaga police chief Miguel Catalán to keep the arrests secret. The Spanish government decided to expel the four men without penalty or prosecution to avoid publicity. The police were ordered to take the arrested men to Málaga. Nicoletti said that once the policemen realized they were not common criminals, their attitude changed and became more favourable. The police let Nicoletti handle the explosives, as he had training while the police had none. Then Nicoletti invited them to lunch, so the police convoy, still carrying the explosives, stopped at a roadside restaurant. Then they went to pick up some clothes at a dry cleaners and finally headed for the Málaga police headquarters.
DeportationEdit


By coincidence, Prime Minister Leopoldo Calvo Sotelo, was campaigning in Málaga and ordered that the men be quietly taken to Madrid in an airplane which had been chartered for the campaign. The men were not interrogated or put on trial. They were quietly flown to Madrid and on to the Canary Islands under police custody, and finally were put on a flight to Buenos Aires without custody. They were returned under the same passports, now known to be false. Spain had recently joined NATO and Sotelo preferred not to create tensions with the UK or with Argentina; quietly returning the men to Argentina seemed the best course.

The operation was handled entirely by the Spanish Police and the Ministry of the Interior; the CESID (Spanish military intelligence agency) was not informed or involved. The operation was kept secret by all and was not openly talked about or disclosed by the participants until many years later. The Spanish police were ordered to destroy all associated records. At the last minute, when the men were at the airport, the police chief realised they had not taken the men's ID information and called to order photos of the men be taken. At the airport, the police charged with taking the photos thought it would look awkward to take mugshots in public and so a friendly, group photo of the commandos with the police guarding them was taken. This photo has not been found.
AftermathEditAn October 1983 article in The Sunday Times titled How Argentina tried to blow up the Rock exposes the basic plot but contains various errors due to the limited information about the operation available at the time.[SUP][8][/SUP]

In 2003, a documentary was made where Anaya, Nicoletti and other participants were interviewed. Nigel West, a British writer who specialises in covert operations, told the documentary team that Britain had known about the plot because of telephone-taps of conversations between Argentina's embassy in Madrid and Buenos Aires and had informed Madrid.[SUP][2][/SUP]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Algeciras
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
Folks here may want to envision real poverty in America. Xiden is the one who is nailing the coffin shut on the west, and the 'elites' vision of the liberal NWO. The WEF crowd may win, they may fail - but people's well-being is not a priority for them. Gonna be 'interesting' watching this unfold.

I'm gonna get more food supplies. Will have a garden this year.

https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/e...containing?s=r

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/gazprom-halts-gas-shipments-europe-critical-pipeline


People should have their own brains, do their own thinking. The rich want most people dead and gone. Their great reset utopia is in play, and the commod NWO is resisting. The world is waking up to the theft and corruption perhaps?

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/03/29/gradually-then-suddenly/#more-262971
 
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HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
I was one month away from being drafted due to my low lottery number when Nixon stopped the draft. Films as in Hollywood?

No films as in reporters there in Vietnam embedded with American forces, showing how badly it was going.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
And do you quote USA media propaganda? The media that bans conservatives and their ideas? It's legal at the Federal level in the USA to produce propaganda to frame a policy narrative and pay the media to use it, use you for free.

What will trip up the media in the USA is all those who took foreign money to knowingly promote false stories affecting the election and not registering as foreign agents.

Sounds like you're confusing Social Media Platforms (privately owned companies with the right to ban people not following user guidelines) with Media. I get that it confuses you because the word media is in there as well but the operative word is really Social. Typically when people just talk about Media, they mean newspapers and news channels (ie NY Times, Washington Post, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC etc.)
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
I survived many years ago a multiple explosion of several fuel tanks (People burned alive... it took days and days to be able to turn them off, and not bursting the nearby gas spheres), and I do not wish anyone to have been in that installation of the video ...
​...About what the subtitles of the video comment "how could the Ukrainian MI-24s have made it, with so much likely Russian air presence?"

That's likely why Ukraine has neither confirmed nor denied it was them. If Russia insists on saying it was the Ukrainians then that forces Russia to explain how that could be since they've been telling the Russian people they've taken away Ukraine's air capabilities and they (Russia) have air superiority.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
The question is.......

Are you willing to use nuclear weapons and destroy humanity under the pretense to save Ukraine from the Russians?

So far the Russian's are the only ones to threaten to use nukes. The US and many other Western Nations would love to do more such as establish a no fly zone but since Putin has threatened to use nukes they're not willing to risk it. So the real question is, Is Putin willing to use nukes and destroy humanity just to steal land that doesn't belong to them from a sovereign nation? Like they did with Crimea in 2014.
 

Three Berries

Active member
Sounds like you're confusing Social Media Platforms (privately owned companies with the right to ban people not following user guidelines) with Media. I get that it confuses you because the word media is in there as well but the operative word is really Social. Typically when people just talk about Media, they mean newspapers and news channels (ie NY Times, Washington Post, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC etc.)

No, they passed legislation legalizing propaganda.

Smith–Mundt Act
 

Three Berries

Active member
So far the Russian's are the only ones to threaten to use nukes. The US and many other Western Nations would love to do more such as establish a no fly zone but since Putin has threatened to use nukes they're not willing to risk it. So the real question is, Is Putin willing to use nukes and destroy humanity just to steal land that doesn't belong to them from a sovereign nation? Like they did with Crimea in 2014.

For 8 years the eastern part of Ukraine has sought alignment with Russia. Stealing something is only looking at it from one side.

Do you think if Russia used nukes in Ukraine the US should retaliate? And just what do you think the outcome of that would be? That is what would destroy humanity. If you don't think US war hawks aren't salivating at using nukes against Russia then you are quite naïve. Regime change in Russia is paramount, a US Deep State specialty that's been in play all my long life.

The horrors of nuclear war is a lesson being taught. Lets hope it gets stymied. Maybe it's a good thing Turkey has most of NATOs nukes?

The US does NOT have a No First Use nuclear policy.

https://sgp.fas.org/crs/nuke/IN10553.pdf
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
Ukraine revealed chilling images of the massacre perpetrated by Russia in Bucha

The recovery of the city, near kyiv, uncovered the horror of the execution of civilians. SENSITIVE IMAGES

April 3, 2022






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Ukrainian forces found dozens of executions upon entering Bucha (Credit: Ukrainian Foreign Ministry)“The Bucha massacre was deliberate. The Russians intend to eliminate as many Ukrainians as they can. We must stop them and throw them out,” Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba wrote.in a chilling message in which he shared images of civilians executed by Putin's forces.

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Most of the bodies belong to men (Credit: Ukrainian Foreign Ministry)The chancellor demanded "devastating new sanctions from the G7" such as an oil, gas and coal embargo, the closure of all ports to Russian ships and goods, and the disconnection of all Russian banks from SWIFT.

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There are remains scattered throughout the city (Credit: Ukrainian Foreign Ministry)
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Corpses are lying in the streets (Credit: Ukrainian Foreign Ministry)




“kyiv region. The hell of the 21st century. Bodies of men and women, who were killed with their hands tied. The worst crimes of Nazism have returned to Europe”, denounced presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak. And he assured that the massacre "was done on purpose by Russia."

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Three victims were entangled in their bicycles (Credit: Ukrainian Foreign Ministry)Like Kuleba, he demanded an embargo on energy resources and the closure of seaports. “Stop the killings!” she implored.
”It can only be described as genocide,” said kyiv Mayor Vitali Klitschkó.to the German tabloid Bild and added that these are "cruel war crimes" for which Russian President Vladimir Putin will be held accountable. Klitschkó stressed that the lifeless civilians found in the streets of Bucha after the withdrawal of the Russian troops "had their hands tied behind their backs," as can be seen in the released photographs.



"For the whole world, and in particular for Germany, there can only be one consequence: Russia cannot receive a penny more," the mayor of kyiv demanded, calling for the implementation of an embargo on Russian oil and gas exports. "It's money." bloody, which is used to slaughter people,” he argued.
After the withdrawal of the Russian forces, a tree-lined street in the Ukrainian town of Bucha, on the outskirts of kyiv, was littered with scattered bodies, as far as the eye could see.

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The Zelensky government denounces war crimes (Credit: Ukrainian Foreign Ministry)The 20 corpses wear civilian clothes. Some seem to look at the overcast sky, while others remained with their faces on the asphalt. Three of them were left entangled in their bicycles while others, pale-skinned, were left lying near crushed or bullet-riddled vehicles.
One has his hands tied behind his back next to his open Ukrainian passport,AFP journalists who accessed Bucha indicated. Another lies sprawled next to a yellow fence painted with happy and sad emojis and the words "Live fast."
The hasty Russian withdrawal after the occupation of the outskirts of kyiv reveals more devastation every day.

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The body of a civilian is seen, who residents say was killed by Russian army soldiers and then buried with others in a grave (Reuters)
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(Reuters)"All these people were shot, killed with a shot to the back of the head," Mayor Anatoly Fedoruk told AFP.
Another 280 people were buried in mass graves in Bucha while the bodies of entire families remain in bullet-riddled cars, it added.

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There are bodies trapped in cars (Reuters)Surrounded by pine forests that stretch to Belarus, Bucha was a quiet suburb of the Ukrainian capital. Until the Russian invasion. Despite a month of fierce fighting in towns such as Bucha and neighboring Irpin, Russian forces failed to encircle kyiv, 25km away. But total devastation.
Holes left by the explosions are still visible in many buildings, while crushed cars are everywhere, according to the AFP team that arrived in Bucha after access was closed almost a month ago.

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A body lies in the street on the border between Bucha and Irpin (Reuters)Supermarkets, cafes and houses were burned or destroyed and a damaged church roof is visible. Only one McDonalds seems to have been left untouched.
There are bodies scattered throughout the city, in front of the train station or on the streets.
However,the violence on this particular street seemed to be more systematic. The victims, who appear to be all men, were scattered for hundreds of meters.

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The body of a woman lying on the streetSome bodies lie in groups, such as two men left together face up in a puddle, one wearing a green grim reaper and the other a black jacket. Others died alone. A cyclist with orange gloves was lying on his side with the bicycle on top, as if he had fallen without being able to get up.
Everyone wears civilian clothes, winter coats, jackets, jeans or sweatshirts, and sneakers or boots.
Violence is everywhere. A silver car is riddled with bullets, another is partially crushed, while a van was burned along with some bodies. "These are the consequences of the Russian occupation," lamented the mayor.

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All the remains found are civilians.But the horrors of war have become so routine in Bucha that residents walk past the bodies and barely look at them.

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SENSITIVE MATERIAL. THIS IMAGE MAY OFFEND OR DISTURB A body of a civilian, who according to residents was killed by Russian army soldiers, lies on the street, amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine, in Bucha, in Kyiv region, Ukraine April 2, 2022. REUTERS/Zohra bensemraUkrainian forces only recently retook control of Bucha and began their first aid shipment yesterday, so the dead may take a while to be buried. Soldiers delivered food and medicine to desperate survivors from the back of a military truck. It is the first delivery in more than a month, after Ukraine announced on Saturday that Russian forces were conducting a "rapid withdrawal" from kyiv.
"They are on the run," said Yurily Biriukov, a member of a Ukrainian volunteer territorial defense squad overseeing the relief operation. Residents of Bucha "are still very scared, shocked," he added.“People cannot even imagine the conditions in which they lived this month, with artillery, without food or water, without the possibility of leaving,” he said.
A resident showed AFP what he said was a grave covered with a green cross in the back garden of a house, where four people, including a child, were buried. The people who stayed in Bucha are mostly elderly.
In a communal open-air kitchen, a group of elderly men stir pots of beetroot soup and stew on a makeshift stove, next to a yellow Lada with flat tires. Russian soldiers broke into apartments on the top floor of a Soviet-era building, stole belongings and asked an older woman if she had weapons, they say. Then, on Tuesday, they saw more than 70 Russian armored vehicles leaving the town in the opposite direction of kyiv. The bombardment ended on Thursday.
"If there was peace, everything would be wonderful," said Nadia Protopopova, 82.

KEEP READING:

Infobae in Irpin: graves in the squares, destroyed tanks and a row of charred cars in the town that experienced the worst battles of the war

The shocking images of the destruction caused by Russian troops in Irpin

How the Wagner Group works, the mercenary force linked to Vladimir Putin

Why Ukraine must defeat Russia


https://www.infobae.com/america/mund...usia-en-bucha/


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audiohi

Well-known member
Veteran
For 8 years the eastern part of Ukraine has sought alignment with Russia. Stealing something is only looking at it from one side.

Do you think if Russia used nukes in Ukraine the US should retaliate? And just what do you think the outcome of that would be? That is what would destroy humanity. If you don't think US war hawks aren't salivating at using nukes against Russia then you are quite naïve. Regime change in Russia is paramount, a US Deep State specialty that's been in play all my long life.

The horrors of nuclear war is a lesson being taught. Lets hope it gets stymied. Maybe it's a good thing Turkey has most of NATOs nukes?

The US does NOT have a No First Use nuclear policy.

https://sgp.fas.org/crs/nuke/IN10553.pdf

I assume that you think that Idaho should threaten to use nukes when the eastern part of Oregon doesn't gain the ability to align with them?

Is that the one side you're looking from?
 

Three Berries

Active member
I assume that you think that Idaho should threaten to use nukes when the eastern part of Oregon doesn't gain the ability to align with them?

Is that the one side you're looking from?

Now who is asking stupid questions.

Do you think the US should retaliate with nukes if Russia uses nukes?
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
The stripper got cute and sent a couple choppers into Russia to blow up some fuel storage tanks. The only oil refinery in ukraine, owned by zelinzkys 'boss', was blown up in retaliation. I suppose zelinsky got an assfull over that incident.
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
Ukraine revealed chilling images of the massacre perpetrated by Russia in Bucha

The recovery of the city, near kyiv, uncovered the horror of the execution of civilians. SENSITIVE IMAGES

April 3, 2022






KE7MWQU42JAAVGAMNA7OTWXTDQ.jpg


Ukrainian forces found dozens of executions upon entering Bucha (Credit: Ukrainian Foreign Ministry)“The Bucha massacre was deliberate. The Russians intend to eliminate as many Ukrainians as they can. We must stop them and throw them out,” Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba wrote.in a chilling message in which he shared images of civilians executed by Putin's forces.

NKN3UHM2KVDKTDLSCQ6RQXK7BQ.jpg

Most of the bodies belong to men (Credit: Ukrainian Foreign Ministry)The chancellor demanded "devastating new sanctions from the G7" such as an oil, gas and coal embargo, the closure of all ports to Russian ships and goods, and the disconnection of all Russian banks from SWIFT.

UJOPHDJ7QZFLVKLWR63PUPSKWA.jpg

There are remains scattered throughout the city (Credit: Ukrainian Foreign Ministry)
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Corpses are lying in the streets (Credit: Ukrainian Foreign Ministry)




“kyiv region. The hell of the 21st century. Bodies of men and women, who were killed with their hands tied. The worst crimes of Nazism have returned to Europe”, denounced presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak. And he assured that the massacre "was done on purpose by Russia."

P4UEH2TBF5BXLGDT2CNRCM7P4E.jpg

Three victims were entangled in their bicycles (Credit: Ukrainian Foreign Ministry)Like Kuleba, he demanded an embargo on energy resources and the closure of seaports. “Stop the killings!” she implored.
”It can only be described as genocide,” said kyiv Mayor Vitali Klitschkó.to the German tabloid Bild and added that these are "cruel war crimes" for which Russian President Vladimir Putin will be held accountable. Klitschkó stressed that the lifeless civilians found in the streets of Bucha after the withdrawal of the Russian troops "had their hands tied behind their backs," as can be seen in the released photographs.



"For the whole world, and in particular for Germany, there can only be one consequence: Russia cannot receive a penny more," the mayor of kyiv demanded, calling for the implementation of an embargo on Russian oil and gas exports. "It's money." bloody, which is used to slaughter people,” he argued.
After the withdrawal of the Russian forces, a tree-lined street in the Ukrainian town of Bucha, on the outskirts of kyiv, was littered with scattered bodies, as far as the eye could see.

KMREEXOZFJFEXHJZLJ47BLJD7U.jpg

The Zelensky government denounces war crimes (Credit: Ukrainian Foreign Ministry)The 20 corpses wear civilian clothes. Some seem to look at the overcast sky, while others remained with their faces on the asphalt. Three of them were left entangled in their bicycles while others, pale-skinned, were left lying near crushed or bullet-riddled vehicles.
One has his hands tied behind his back next to his open Ukrainian passport,AFP journalists who accessed Bucha indicated. Another lies sprawled next to a yellow fence painted with happy and sad emojis and the words "Live fast."
The hasty Russian withdrawal after the occupation of the outskirts of kyiv reveals more devastation every day.

PRHL5UKIFNMQCTB6RF7DCXFN3Q.jpg

The body of a civilian is seen, who residents say was killed by Russian army soldiers and then buried with others in a grave (Reuters)
2RTPNY66A3J6QAA6ZCX54QODSQ.jpg

(Reuters)"All these people were shot, killed with a shot to the back of the head," Mayor Anatoly Fedoruk told AFP.
Another 280 people were buried in mass graves in Bucha while the bodies of entire families remain in bullet-riddled cars, it added.

B4CV5LV5PDL3YCPC7TNLSLJQU4.jpg

There are bodies trapped in cars (Reuters)Surrounded by pine forests that stretch to Belarus, Bucha was a quiet suburb of the Ukrainian capital. Until the Russian invasion. Despite a month of fierce fighting in towns such as Bucha and neighboring Irpin, Russian forces failed to encircle kyiv, 25km away. But total devastation.
Holes left by the explosions are still visible in many buildings, while crushed cars are everywhere, according to the AFP team that arrived in Bucha after access was closed almost a month ago.

3NIIOIA5FQDXOTFG5S5QJ6D72I.jpg

A body lies in the street on the border between Bucha and Irpin (Reuters)Supermarkets, cafes and houses were burned or destroyed and a damaged church roof is visible. Only one McDonalds seems to have been left untouched.
There are bodies scattered throughout the city, in front of the train station or on the streets.
However,the violence on this particular street seemed to be more systematic. The victims, who appear to be all men, were scattered for hundreds of meters.

SX3RN6ZYJCZZUAFKZDUAPWT6LQ.jpg

The body of a woman lying on the streetSome bodies lie in groups, such as two men left together face up in a puddle, one wearing a green grim reaper and the other a black jacket. Others died alone. A cyclist with orange gloves was lying on his side with the bicycle on top, as if he had fallen without being able to get up.
Everyone wears civilian clothes, winter coats, jackets, jeans or sweatshirts, and sneakers or boots.
Violence is everywhere. A silver car is riddled with bullets, another is partially crushed, while a van was burned along with some bodies. "These are the consequences of the Russian occupation," lamented the mayor.

C7LLJYBL7ECS5PEEUM5YURAFFQ.jpg

All the remains found are civilians.But the horrors of war have become so routine in Bucha that residents walk past the bodies and barely look at them.

Q3JN7WS3IIP5FJMDP5E2CWDC3M.jpg

SENSITIVE MATERIAL. THIS IMAGE MAY OFFEND OR DISTURB A body of a civilian, who according to residents was killed by Russian army soldiers, lies on the street, amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine, in Bucha, in Kyiv region, Ukraine April 2, 2022. REUTERS/Zohra bensemraUkrainian forces only recently retook control of Bucha and began their first aid shipment yesterday, so the dead may take a while to be buried. Soldiers delivered food and medicine to desperate survivors from the back of a military truck. It is the first delivery in more than a month, after Ukraine announced on Saturday that Russian forces were conducting a "rapid withdrawal" from kyiv.
"They are on the run," said Yurily Biriukov, a member of a Ukrainian volunteer territorial defense squad overseeing the relief operation. Residents of Bucha "are still very scared, shocked," he added.“People cannot even imagine the conditions in which they lived this month, with artillery, without food or water, without the possibility of leaving,” he said.
A resident showed AFP what he said was a grave covered with a green cross in the back garden of a house, where four people, including a child, were buried. The people who stayed in Bucha are mostly elderly.
In a communal open-air kitchen, a group of elderly men stir pots of beetroot soup and stew on a makeshift stove, next to a yellow Lada with flat tires. Russian soldiers broke into apartments on the top floor of a Soviet-era building, stole belongings and asked an older woman if she had weapons, they say. Then, on Tuesday, they saw more than 70 Russian armored vehicles leaving the town in the opposite direction of kyiv. The bombardment ended on Thursday.
"If there was peace, everything would be wonderful," said Nadia Protopopova, 82.

KEEP READING:

Infobae in Irpin: graves in the squares, destroyed tanks and a row of charred cars in the town that experienced the worst battles of the war

The shocking images of the destruction caused by Russian troops in Irpin

How the Wagner Group works, the mercenary force linked to Vladimir Putin

Why Ukraine must defeat Russia


https://www.infobae.com/america/mund...usia-en-bucha/





Who is behind the massacre of civilians in Bucha?


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A woman cries among destroyed Russian main battle tanks on a street in Bucha, north of Kiev ATEF SAFADI | EFE
Military units that participated in the annexation of Crimea and soldiers loyal to the Chechen warlord Ramzan Kadyrov were deployed in the area

03 Apr 2022 . Updated at 9:11 p.m.Comment · 2


In late February, three days after Russia began its invasion of Ukraine , a column of tanks entered the city of Bucha. Antonia Pomazenko, a 76-year-old neighbor, saw it from her window and her 56-year-old daughter Tetiana came out into the garden thinking it was Ukrainian troops. The soldiers opened fire and killed her instantly. The New York Times managed to collect the testimony of this woman - whose daughter had decided to stay with her to keep her company - once the Russian soldiers left the place amid a trail of corpses. Her daughter is half buried in the garden, covered by a transparent plastic canvas and wooden boards. "There was so much shelling that I didn't know what to do," he says at the dead woman's feet.

It is part of the terror experienced in Bucha in recent weeks. Today hundreds of corpses scattered through the streets have been discovered there , many handcuffed and shot in the head. At least 300 people are buried in a mass grave. The international community has recognized its horror at seeing the images and condemns the acts, demanding an independent investigation to clarify the facts of what they already qualify as a "war crime". The Kremlin has distanced itself from what happened, while the Ukrainian president Volodímir Zelenski speaks of "genocide" . The Government of Ukraine, through the Twitter account of its Ministry of Defense, compares the scenario with Srebrenica, where more than 8,000 civilians were killed in Bosnia under the command of Bosnian Serb General Ratko Mladic in 1995.

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Invasion in Ukraine, live: Russia denies responsibility for civilians killed in Bucha and Zelensky speaks of "genocide"

MARIA HERMIDA / MV


European leaders such as the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz or the Spanish Foreign Minister, José Manuel Albares, demand that independent organizations such as the International Committee of the Red Cross have access to the regions affected by these excesses attributed to the Russian troops «to document them thoroughly » and investigate what happened. The human rights organization Human Rights Watch (HRW) also requests a "professional exhumation" in Bucha to facilitate this work.



The Russian Ministry of Defense denies responsibility for the murders . In a statement collected by the Russian news agency TASS, he assures that during the time that Bucha was under the control of his troops "not a single local resident suffered violent actions." "All Russian units completely abandoned (the city) on March 30" after several days of shelling by Ukrainian forces, he adds. However, testimonies such as that of Antonia Pomazenko and many other survivors in the town north of kyiv point to the Kremlin's fire.
What is known for now is which Russian troops were in the region. According to investigators from the Moscow-based Conflict Intelligence Team, the soldiers deployed in Bucha came from Russia's Eastern Military District, airborne forces from the 76th and 98th divisions and the 234th regiment, the militarized police of the Russian National Guard ( or Rosgvárdia) and soldiers loyal to Chechen warlord Ramzan Kadyrov.





There they documented the presence of BMD and BTR-MDM airborne combat vehicles and also of at least two soldiers from the 234 regiment who were lost in the area where they were fighting. This regiment also participated in the annexation of Crimea in 2014. Analysts and experts on Russian conflicts, such as CNN journalist Neil Hauer, find similarities to the methods used by the Kremlin in Chechnya during the war twenty years ago. "It reminds of exactly one thing: the zachistki , or 'cleansing operations', in Chechnya between 1999 and 2000. Times change, the Russian army remains the same," he notes.
UN investigation
The UN Secretary General, António Guterres , has expressed this Sunday his "shock" at the images of dead civilians in the Ukrainian town of Bucha, on the outskirts of Kiev, and has called for an independent investigation into what happened.




“I am deeply shocked by the images of dead civilians in Bucha, Ukraine. It is essential that an independent investigation spearheads effective accountability," Guterres said in a brief statement. The United States, the EU or the United Kingdom have already condemned these deaths and have advanced that they are preparing new sanctions against Russia.

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"A soldier raped me while he was aiming at me": ten alleged Russian "war crimes" in Ukraine

MARIA HERMIDA
The recovery of land that had been taken by the Russians is serving to raise awareness of the barbarity of the invasion of Ukraine . In Bucha, almost 300 corpses were found lying in the streets, civilians who were shot in the neck . While Europe announces new sanctions against Russia for what is already called "the Bucha massacre", Human Rights Watch , an NGO specializing in the defense of human rights , announced this Sunday that it has documented at least ten cases in which Russian military forces allegedly committed violations of the laws of waragainst civilians in occupied areas of the Chernihiv, Kharkiv and kyiv regions.


Keep reading


https://www.lavozdegalicia.es/notic...ras-masacre-bucha/00031649008487163929209.htm
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
Vietnam was another CI A/Banker war, war of choice.

Perhaps, although many would say we were coming to the aide of a long time Ally that helped us back in the day (France). But that has nothing to do with your false allegation that the media was making it seem like everything was just fine and dandy in Vietnam. But hey I understand, when you can't support your argument, just change it to something else.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
For 8 years the eastern part of Ukraine has sought alignment with Russia. Stealing something is only looking at it from one side.

Do you think if Russia used nukes in Ukraine the US should retaliate? And just what do you think the outcome of that would be? That is what would destroy humanity. If you don't think US war hawks aren't salivating at using nukes against Russia then you are quite naïve. Regime change in Russia is paramount, a US Deep State specialty that's been in play all my long life.

The horrors of nuclear war is a lesson being taught. Lets hope it gets stymied. Maybe it's a good thing Turkey has most of NATOs nukes?

The US does NOT have a No First Use nuclear policy.

https://sgp.fas.org/crs/nuke/IN10553.pdf

Again so far the US has been doing it's best to not give Putin an excuse to use Nukes which is why we've resisted the repeated pleadings by Ukraine to establish a No Fly Zone, it's also why we don't have boots on the ground in Ukraine other then American's who have volunteered to join Ukraine's army along with people from many other countries. Putin uses this threat of Nukes because he knows that the US and Nato will not do a first strike, you don't have to have a rule prohibiting yourself from doing a first strike if you are sane enough to understand why a first strike is unacceptable. Putin on the other hand we're not so sure he has that level of sanity otherwise we would be conducting that no fly zone. You're the one who is naïve for buying into that old stereotype that there are all these war hawks eager to start a nuclear war. There is a reason why no nukes have been used in war since WWII and why nuclear testing by the US was halted in 1992. As for regime change if you think the CIA or any other American forces have enough influence to affect Regime change in Russia then you are also very naïve about that as well. If regime change ever happens in Russia it's going to be done by the people of Russia.

As for the separatists if they would rather be in Russia there is nothing stopping them from going to Russia. Just because they want to be under Russian control doesn't mean they have the right to carve off large portions of the country to take with them. If everyone in the State of Florida suddenly decided they wanted to be part of Cuba do you really think the US Government is just going to say, "Oh okay, sorry to see you go" and give up all the resources and assets Florida represents?
 
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