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Chi13

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ICMag Donor
Yeah, and Sadaam was taking Kuwait babies outta incubators too. The news media is globalist propaganda. The 'western' internet has turned off RT.com, because truth conflicts with their lies.


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"Wounds contain unconsumed blood". Either that is fake, something got lost in translation, or the Russians are vampires.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
Now who is asking stupid questions.

Do you think the US should retaliate with nukes if Russia uses nukes?

Depends on what kind of Nukes used and who they're used against. If it's tactical nukes against the US or any NATO forces then yeah we should use tactical nukes right back at them. If it's against Ukraine then no we shouldn't use tactical nukes against Russia but we should then move against Russia in some way to make them wish they had never used tactical nukes against anyone. If it's Russia launching a full scale nuclear attack against any Western Country then no we shouldn't respond back because that's how the world ends but you know and Putin knows that if he launches a full scale nuclear attack several are going to be launched right back at Russia. That's why Putin just uses it as a threat but will never actually do it accept maybe in a scenario where he knows he's going to lose and his reign as leader of Russia is about to end.
 

Three Berries

Active member
Perhaps, although many would say we were coming to the aide of a long time Ally that helped us back in the day (France). But that has nothing to do with your false allegation that the media was making it seem like everything was just fine and dandy in Vietnam. But hey I understand, when you can't support your argument, just change it to something else.

Ukraine is a Banker war, all wars are banker wars. They fund both sides an invest in arms.
 

Three Berries

Active member
Again so far the US has been doing it's best to not give Putin an excuse to use Nukes which is why we've resisted the repeated pleadings by Ukraine to establish a No Fly Zone, it's also why we don't have boots on the ground in Ukraine other then American's who have volunteered to join Ukraine's army along with people from many other countries. Putin uses this threat of Nukes because he knows that the US and Nato will not do a first strike, you don't have to have a rule prohibiting yourself from doing a first strike if you are sane enough to understand why a first strike is unacceptable. Putin on the other hand we're not so sure he has that level of sanity otherwise we would be conducting that no fly zone. You're the one who is naïve for buying into that old stereotype that there are all these war hawks eager to start a nuclear war. There is a reason why no nukes have been used in war since WWII and why nuclear testing by the US was halted in 1992. As for regime change if you think the CIA or any other American forces have enough influence to affect Regime change in Russia then you are also very naïve about that as well. If regime change ever happens in Russia it's going to be done by the people of Russia.

As for the separatists if they would rather be in Russia there is nothing stopping them from going to Russia. Just because they want to be under Russian control doesn't mean they have the right to carve off large portions of the country to take with them. If everyone in the State of Florida suddenly decided they wanted to be part of Cuba do you really think the US Government is just going to say, "Oh okay, sorry to see you go" and give up all the resources and assets Florida represents?

So do you think the us should use nukes if Russia does? And if we do where do we stop?
 

Three Berries

Active member
Putin lies and putin kills. That’s his job. Americans who worship him are scum.

America is responsible for many deaths over the last 50 years because of our CI A regime change and wars of choice. If you invest right you can make a lot of money. Just ask the US Congress members. How is that war in Yemen going?
 

Petrochemical

Active member
Again so far the US has been doing it's best to not give Putin an excuse to use Nukes which is why we've resisted the repeated pleadings by Ukraine to establish a No Fly Zone, it's also why we don't have boots on the ground in Ukraine other then American's who have volunteered to join Ukraine's army along with people from many other countries. Putin uses this threat of Nukes because he knows that the US and Nato will not do a first strike, you don't have to have a rule prohibiting yourself from doing a first strike if you are sane enough to understand why a first strike is unacceptable. Putin on the other hand we're not so sure he has that level of sanity otherwise we would be conducting that no fly zone. You're the one who is naïve for buying into that old stereotype that there are all these war hawks eager to start a nuclear war. There is a reason why no nukes have been used in war since WWII and why nuclear testing by the US was halted in 1992. As for regime change if you think the CIA or any other American forces have enough influence to affect Regime change in Russia then you are also very naïve about that as well. If regime change ever happens in Russia it's going to be done by the people of Russia.

As for the separatists if they would rather be in Russia there is nothing stopping them from going to Russia. Just because they want to be under Russian control doesn't mean they have the right to carve off large portions of the country to take with them. If everyone in the State of Florida suddenly decided they wanted to be part of Cuba do you really think the US Government is just going to say, "Oh okay, sorry to see you go" and give up all the resources and assets Florida represents?

I mean I wouldn't be surprised judging by the people I was raised by that there's people in an unofficial capacity over there shaking some f****** bushes what their motivation is I don't know because I don't have the faintest f****** clue what's going on over there or why it's going on I just know it's going on and I love how the media will focus on quote graphic news stories, it reminds me of that interview that Denzel Washington did where he was on the red carpet and he said something along the lines of no you people won't post anything that's true you'll just post the one that gets you the quickest fastest money new stories
 

audiohi

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Veteran
I mean I wouldn't be surprised judging by the people I was raised by that there's people in an unofficial capacity over there shaking some f****** bushes what their motivation is I don't know because I don't have the faintest f****** clue what's going on over there or why it's going on I just know it's going on and I love how the media will focus on quote graphic news stories, it reminds me of that interview that Denzel Washington did where he was on the red carpet and he said something along the lines of no you people won't post anything that's true you'll just post the one that gets you the quickest fastest money new stories

Washington's remarks about the alleged sins of the mainstream media come months after he himself was the center of a phony story that circulated online this fall: It falsely claimed Washington had dropped his support of Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton to endorse GOP nominee Donald Trump.

lol
 

St. Phatty

Active member
Ukraine is a Banker war, all wars are banker wars. They fund both sides an invest in arms.

Just like World War 2.

Wall Street - New York Banks - were caught loaning money to WW2 Germany in October 1942.

Halfway through the war !

Then one of the bankers involved, Prescott Bush, was elected to the US Senate in the 1950's - twice !

Quite an odd punishment for a man who was caught red-handed loaning $$ to Mr. Hitler.

Just one of many history references that shatters the official US gov. conspiracy theory about WW2.

if you don't like this reference, go to the National Archives and argue with the actual paper vesting order signed by FDR in October 1942.

http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-2-the-hitler-project/
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
Xiden has created the commods block over his sanctions and interference, plus his weakness. China / Russia / India / Saudi (and other oil countries) are aligning, and the dollah is being dethroned in favor of gold and other commods. The USA is broken, splintered, and run by corruption and lies. They are trying to block Russian gold sales by saying Russian gold is no good. Well, then neither is their oil and gas. What is really no good is the US fiat dollar.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/g...165337003.html

End of the empire. Wasn't a very long run, only 75 years or so. Might be a good idea to envision how a person will get by when the .guv only has printing to cover the handouts (which are at a fixed rate). Stimmy ain't coming back.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ctions-russia/
 

Absolem

Active member
St. Phatty

Could you explain to me how this "shatters" the official narrative of WW2?

Just like World War 2.

Wall Street - New York Banks - were caught loaning money to WW2 Germany in October 1942.

Halfway through the war !

Then one of the bankers involved, Prescott Bush, was elected to the US Senate in the 1950's - twice !

Quite an odd punishment for a man who was caught red-handed loaning $$ to Mr. Hitler.

Just one of many history references that shatters the official US gov. conspiracy theory about WW2.

if you don't like this reference, go to the National Archives and argue with the actual paper vesting order signed by FDR in October 1942.

http://tarpley.net/online-books/geor...itler-project/
 

Petrochemical

Active member
Just like World War 2.

Wall Street - New York Banks - were caught loaning money to WW2 Germany in October 1942.

Halfway through the war !

Then one of the bankers involved, Prescott Bush, was elected to the US Senate in the 1950's - twice !

Quite an odd punishment for a man who was caught red-handed loaning $$ to Mr. Hitler.

Just one of many history references that shatters the official US gov. conspiracy theory about WW2.

if you don't like this reference, go to the National Archives and argue with the actual paper vesting order signed by FDR in October 1942.

http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-2-the-hitler-project/

Then we go full operation paperclip
verner Here's NASA
Like jfk said
We gonna do those things
 

Three Berries

Active member
Perhaps, although many would say we were coming to the aide of a long time Ally that helped us back in the day (France). But that has nothing to do with your false allegation that the media was making it seem like everything was just fine and dandy in Vietnam. But hey I understand, when you can't support your argument, just change it to something else.

We helped France with Regime change. France gave up so we carried the Globalist and Bankers war for another 20 years, Like Afghanistan..

Seems it's OK for the USA to be aggressive and invade other countries. We've been doing it since the end of WW2.
 

Three Berries

Active member
Again so far the US has been doing it's best to not give Putin an excuse to use Nukes which is why we've resisted the repeated pleadings by Ukraine to establish a No Fly Zone, it's also why we don't have boots on the ground in Ukraine other then American's who have volunteered to join Ukraine's army along with people from many other countries. Putin uses this threat of Nukes because he knows that the US and Nato will not do a first strike, you don't have to have a rule prohibiting yourself from doing a first strike if you are sane enough to understand why a first strike is unacceptable. Putin on the other hand we're not so sure he has that level of sanity otherwise we would be conducting that no fly zone. You're the one who is naïve for buying into that old stereotype that there are all these war hawks eager to start a nuclear war. There is a reason why no nukes have been used in war since WWII and why nuclear testing by the US was halted in 1992. As for regime change if you think the CIA or any other American forces have enough influence to affect Regime change in Russia then you are also very naïve about that as well. If regime change ever happens in Russia it's going to be done by the people of Russia.

As for the separatists if they would rather be in Russia there is nothing stopping them from going to Russia. Just because they want to be under Russian control doesn't mean they have the right to carve off large portions of the country to take with them. If everyone in the State of Florida suddenly decided they wanted to be part of Cuba do you really think the US Government is just going to say, "Oh okay, sorry to see you go" and give up all the resources and assets Florida represents?

There is only one good answer to should the US use nukes no matter the reason and that is no. Don't let the cure be worse than the disease.

When all you read is US MSM propaganda your world vison is very short sighted and that is playing out right now.

You assume you are right because it's what you see from 'official' sources of the USA. I can tell you there is a whole other side to what you are talking about. The Media is the ally of Political Control and the Enemy of the People.

The USA is the cause of the problems in Ukraine not Russia. It's a big cover for the US and Bidan's corruption. No doubt Bidan's views on our insolvent are to keep his secrets quiet.

But it's all on Hunters Laptop. And it's coming out.
 

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