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Creeper is creeping again.

Creeperpark

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For the main garden, today is 27 days into flowering and still a long way from being finished. Had I known these were going to be so Sativa I would have done things a little differently. Heres today live.

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aCBD

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Moving the outdoor plants every day sounds like a lot of work but I'm sure it'll be worth it. :greenstars: Please watch your back. The chances of me tipping and breaking a plant or pot would be so high in this scenario, I'd get cloth to cover them :biggrin:
It always fascinates me how a plant shows her needs or well-being, in soil we just have to wait a little bit longer 😁
Happy growing CP
 

Creeperpark

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I f__ked up my plants using a malfunctioning pH meter being cheap. Every time the meter started acting up I calibrated it and thought it was ok. Turns out it wasn’t and knocked my nutrient and pH sequence way out of range. When I was reading 5.7 it was 5.2 so I burned my plants. After testing the discharge with the new meter I found it had climbed to 7.5 way high. Too low going in and too high coming out. So now I have a brand new calibrated meter and checked the old one and it was way way off. So I have to get dialed in again and it may take a while.

I have had good luck with this meter and it lasted about 4 years. The main lesson here is when things seem like they are not normal always double-check with a new meter. I felt like things were funny and it cost me. I calibrated the new one and rinsed it between uses and it's kick-ass very fast and accurate.

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So I'm into flowering now 30 days and have at least 40 more to go, maybe more since I messed up. Now is a good time to remove a few large fan leaves slowly from the plants. This has two benefits it will allow light to penetrate the canopy and the other is it will cause the plants to produce pheromones. Pheromones are a method a plant uses to keep intruders at bay. When slowly removing large fan leaves off the main stem the plant will feel threatened during flowering and produce stronger cannabinoids. Its whole function is to protect the flowers from the threat.

It's very important to remove only a few at a time so as not to shock the plant. I take maybe one or two on a watering day. It's best to always prune on watering day so the plant will have enough water in the broken stem to help heal and scab easily.

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aCBD

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Good that you found the problem with the ph! Nothing is lost, the plants may need a week or two longer but they're still alive. That's what matters. I'm sure that will not happen again, looking at your two new pens :biggrin:
You're absolutely right with the lesson. Not every grow is a smooth ride but we try our best every time.

The leaves you took off are huge! Good genetics can only shine with a passionate gardener taking care and that's what we are seeing here. :greenstars:
Happy growing CP
 

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I'm pretty bummed out because I will lose valuable time getting redialed in. I thought I was not allowing enough discharge and letting the EC build up too much. I was wrong, using a defective pH meter, and went out of range. Here's the plant that started showing the problem.

Mistakes are golden opportunities to learn something valuable, every mistake can be a blessing in disguise if one learns from it.

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Creeperpark

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I'm still running a low ppm however this time, I'm using starting nutrient water at 6.2 pH stabilized. Hopefully, I can raise the EC because with all the testing I lost some nutrients. The plants will show you if they need nutrients from the older leaves. So I bumped up the EC to around 300 ppm with every watering instead of the low 200s. I hope this fixes everything by the end of flowering. Here are photos of some old leaves giving up their nutrients to feed the flowers.

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dimodz

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when you runnig on soil medium then is 5.8 - 6.2 PH good and 5.8 optium in hydro too let plants as much possible to take of nuts. Some strains or cuts can handle higher EC and some doin`t need so much as there anotrher.
 
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Creeperpark

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when you runnig on soil medium then is 5.8 - 6.2 PH good and 5.8 optium in hydro too lewt plants as much possible to take of it. Some strains or cuts can handle higher EC and some doin`t need so much as there anotrher.
Thanks for posting friend. Using cal mag carbonate can accumulate late in the grow and cause the pH to stay above 7 in the substrate. So adding 5.8 or 6.2 pH will be short-lived because alkalinity takes precedence over hydrogen keeping the substrate pH too high. When the substrate pH becomes too high and can't up-take micronutrients it will hold water longer causing the plant to waterlog. Had I known my substrate was so alkaline I would have minimized the alkalinity with acid before using. I'm hoping to lower the range but I think the damage is already done. If a plant doesn't move water then it won't matter what I do, the plant will lose its vigor...
 

Creeperpark

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Moving on to the small closet grow, these 2 plants started flowering a little earlier than the others. They are starting to swell now and stinking up the whole room. I was in a do-or-die game with these plants because I couldn't raise the lights anymore. I think the lights are too close to the plants now but I can't do anything about it. I love the smell of these.

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aliceklar

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Looking good! Could you bend or supercrop the stems maybe? I picked up a trick from Verdant Green I used to fit Johaar landrace (Himalyan sativa that grows to 5-6m outdoors) in a cupboard with only about 150cm headroom... Do a stem crush and bend, then another, then tie the bends together to make an "S" shape. Its brutal and ugly, but it worked for me! Yours might be too far on tho...
Moving on to the small closet grow, these 2 plants started flowering a little earlier than the others. They are starting to swell now and stinking up the whole room. I was in a do-or-die game with these plants because I couldn't raise the lights anymore. I think the lights are too close to the plants now but I can't do anything about it. I love the smell of these.
 

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These outdoor plants are going in every night because of cold temps, and back out during the Sunny days. I have had some windy days where the south winds were gusting up to 40 mph. There's nothing worse than going outside and finding all your plants lying on the ground blown over by the wind. I keep my plants from being blown over by adding weight to a larger pot and then setting the plant inside it. It has to be a larger pot size than the pot the plant is in. It works very well and I never worry about it.

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Creeperpark

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Looking good! Could you bend or supercrop the stems maybe? I picked up a trick from Verdant Green I used to fit Johaar landrace (Himalyan sativa that grows to 5-6m outdoors) in a cupboard with only about 150cm headroom... Do a stem crush and bend, then another, then tie the bends together to make an "S" shape. Its brutal and ugly, but it worked for me! Yours might be too far on tho...
That's a great way aliceklar and I do tie a lot, but I missed the timing by the time I realized they were getting too tall. The pistils had already inclosed all around the stem covering the whole stem by the time I realised it.
 
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