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h.h.

Active member
Veteran
Whatever dude, congratulations, you have created a system of rationalizations by which you can always be misled. Sure the government might get some things wrong or might distort things sometimes and thereby mislead some people but you will always be misled all someone has to do is create some story that is disproven by government sources and you'll just accept it because you believe the government is in the business of always deceiving the public.

Could have easily found the information, but decided to make it up instead.
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
are you sure it wasn't Hillary's Arkansawyer hit teams or Soros' goon squads? i hear lots of bad shit about them...CIA too.😎

CONSPIRANEWS

BAD HOMBRES IN THE MOON ?!?:

Latest leaks from secret CIA and NASA files:

THE TOP-SECRET SPANISH ATTEMPT TO WIN THE RACE TO THE MOON, AND HOW THE CIA MANAGED TO FOIL IT :
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Find out on our website, how Spain tried to get ahead of NASA in the race for the Moon, and how the CIA managed to derail the attempt, by contaminating the Spanish astronaut's paella and jug water rations with ketchup and LSD, respectively... The loss of body and mind control of the only crew member of the Spanish mission, Captain Tony Leblanc, caused a very dangerous false landing in the middle of the filming in Almeria of Clint Eastwood's latest movie...

Shocking images of the Spanish astronaut and his module, THE TICK I ..:

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VIDEO OF THE COMPLETE SHOCKING SEQUENCE :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9MigY17WqO4
 

Three Berries

Active member
How Mariupol Will Become A Key Hub Of Eurasian Integration

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-how-mariupol-will-become-key-hub-eurasian-integration

The NATO narrative is that Azovstal – one of Europe’s biggest iron and steel works – was nearly destroyed by the Russian Army and its allied Donetsk forces who “lay siege” to Mariupol.

The true story is that the neo-Nazi Azov batallion took scores of Mariupol civilians as human shields since the start of the Russian military operation in Ukraine, and retreated to Azovstal as a last stand. After an ultimatum delivered last week, they are now being completely exterminated by the Russian and Donetsk forces and Chechen Spetsnaz.

Azovstal, part of the Metinvest group controlled by Ukraine’s wealthiest oligarch, Rinat Akhmetov, is indeed one of the biggest metallurgic plants in Europe, self-described as a “high-performance integrated metallurgical enterprise that produces coke and sinter, steel as well as high-quality rolled products, bars and shapes.”

Amidst a flurry of testimonials detailing the horrors inflicted by the Azov neo-Nazis on Mariupol’s civilian population, a way more auspicious, invisible story bodes well for the immediate future.
 

Montuno

...como el Son...

Yeah, I remember the new...

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Soldiers were ordered to use dogs against prisoners in Iraq.
Military intelligence gave the go-ahead
.

JOSH WHITESCOTT HIGHAM
Washington - 12 JUN 2004-02:15 CEST

Military intelligence authorized the use of unmuzzled dogs to terrorize detainees at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison during interrogations, a plan that was authorized by the highest-ranking military intelligence officer, according to sworn testimony from two soldiers in charge of handling the dogs. One interrogator told investigators that the two soldiers in charge of handling the dogs at Abu Ghraib "had a kind of contest" to see how many detainees "they could make pee their pants in fear of the dogs."

Former Abu Ghraib chief claims she received orders to treat prisoners "like dogs."
These affidavits amount to proof that U.S. military intelligence commanders were fully implicated in these techniques, which were later described by an Army general as "criminal, sadistic, brazen and wanton abuses."

Both U.S. President George W. Bush and the Pentagon have insisted that the abuses at Abu Ghraib were the work of a small group of military police soldiers who forced prisoners to strip naked, beat them and photographed them in humiliating sexual positions.

An Army investigation into these abuses has convicted these members of the military police of the acts, but has also classified the use of unmuzzled dogs to frighten prisoners as "intentional abuse." So far, the only charges that have been brought have been against seven military police and none of the incidents involve the use of dogs, despite the fact that such use is prohibited by the Geneva Convention and the Army field manual.

According to the two declarants, Sergeants Michael Smith and Santos Cardona, the highest-ranking intelligence officer present at Abu Ghraib, Colonel Thomas Papas, assured them that the use of dogs in interrogations had been approved by senior commanders, and even indicated to the handlers that the use of unmuzzled dogs to intimidate prisoners had been approved by a general who had given his "OK" to this practice.

The documents obtained indicate that there were two categories of abuse: sexual humiliation and beatings at the hands of military police soldiers and intimidation with the use of dogs. "The sexual abuse occurred weeks and even months before the dog incidents, some of which appear to have been part of an organized strategy by military intelligence to frighten detainees and force them to talk."

Smith and Cardona, who are in charge of handling and training the dogs at Abu Ghraib prison, assured investigators that military intelligence personnel asked them on multiple occasions to take the dogs to where detainees were being interrogated during last December and January.

In mid-December, both dog handlers were asked by Sgt. Ivan Chip Frederick to assist with a detainee who was uncooperative in interrogation. Part of what followed then has gone down in history and was captured in photographs as a naked prisoner against a wall as two dogs cornered him.

The detainee, identified in the investigation as Ballendia Sadawi Mohamed, recounted being dragged out of bed and placed naked in the hallway. "They set the dogs on me. I was scared," Mohamed assured investigators. "The first dog bit me on the leg and injured me. The bite caused me a deep wound as a result of which I lost a lot of blood," Mohamed told investigators.
 

Three Berries

Active member
Whatever dude, congratulations, you have created a system of rationalizations by which you can always be misled. Sure the government might get some things wrong or might distort things sometimes and thereby mislead some people but you will always be misled all someone has to do is create some story that is disproven by government sources and you'll just accept it because you believe the government is in the business of always deceiving the public.

LOL Goebbels would be proud! The government legalized propaganda. What do you NOT understand about repeating government propaganda?

Were you around during the Vietnam war and heard the reports every night about how we were winning?
 

Petrochemical

Active member
Yeah, I remember the new...










Soldiers were ordered to use dogs against prisoners in Iraq.
Military intelligence gave the go-ahead
.

JOSH WHITESCOTT HIGHAM
Washington - 12 JUN 2004-02:15 CEST

Military intelligence authorized the use of unmuzzled dogs to terrorize detainees at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison during interrogations, a plan that was authorized by the highest-ranking military intelligence officer, according to sworn testimony from two soldiers in charge of handling the dogs. One interrogator told investigators that the two soldiers in charge of handling the dogs at Abu Ghraib "had a kind of contest" to see how many detainees "they could make pee their pants in fear of the dogs."

Former Abu Ghraib chief claims she received orders to treat prisoners "like dogs."
These affidavits amount to proof that U.S. military intelligence commanders were fully implicated in these techniques, which were later described by an Army general as "criminal, sadistic, brazen and wanton abuses."

Both U.S. President George W. Bush and the Pentagon have insisted that the abuses at Abu Ghraib were the work of a small group of military police soldiers who forced prisoners to strip naked, beat them and photographed them in humiliating sexual positions.

An Army investigation into these abuses has convicted these members of the military police of the acts, but has also classified the use of unmuzzled dogs to frighten prisoners as "intentional abuse." So far, the only charges that have been brought have been against seven military police and none of the incidents involve the use of dogs, despite the fact that such use is prohibited by the Geneva Convention and the Army field manual.

According to the two declarants, Sergeants Michael Smith and Santos Cardona, the highest-ranking intelligence officer present at Abu Ghraib, Colonel Thomas Papas, assured them that the use of dogs in interrogations had been approved by senior commanders, and even indicated to the handlers that the use of unmuzzled dogs to intimidate prisoners had been approved by a general who had given his "OK" to this practice.

The documents obtained indicate that there were two categories of abuse: sexual humiliation and beatings at the hands of military police soldiers and intimidation with the use of dogs. "The sexual abuse occurred weeks and even months before the dog incidents, some of which appear to have been part of an organized strategy by military intelligence to frighten detainees and force them to talk."

Smith and Cardona, who are in charge of handling and training the dogs at Abu Ghraib prison, assured investigators that military intelligence personnel asked them on multiple occasions to take the dogs to where detainees were being interrogated during last December and January.

In mid-December, both dog handlers were asked by Sgt. Ivan Chip Frederick to assist with a detainee who was uncooperative in interrogation. Part of what followed then has gone down in history and was captured in photographs as a naked prisoner against a wall as two dogs cornered him.

The detainee, identified in the investigation as Ballendia Sadawi Mohamed, recounted being dragged out of bed and placed naked in the hallway. "They set the dogs on me. I was scared," Mohamed assured investigators. "The first dog bit me on the leg and injured me. The bite caused me a deep wound as a result of which I lost a lot of blood," Mohamed told investigators.

I'm verklempt And confused 😕
goats seem to work way better ..and they have horns of plenty lmaop
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
WAR RUSSIA - UKRAINE

The 15 videos that prove the massacre of civilians by Vladimir Putin: the infamy that the world will not forget

Official data speak of just over 1,000 civilians killed in Ukraine, although the UN itself acknowledges that the real figure is much higher. Michelle Bachelet, High Commissioner for Human Rights, speaks of "war crimes".
31 March, 2022 00:26

Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited under international humanitarian law and could constitute war crimes . The lives of millions of people have been turned upside down as they are forced to flee their homes or live in basements and bomb shelters while their cities are harassed and destroyed.”

Michelle Bachelet , United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, was able to say it louder but not more clearly this Wednesday in Geneva, where she presented her report on the situation in Ukraine after a little over a month since the beginning of the Russian invasion . "Russia must act immediately to withdraw its troops from Ukrainian territory," she said.

On the other hand, Bachelet acknowledged her concern about the use of extremely powerful weapons with a wide range of action in populated areas, causing "massive damage" among civilians. Likewise, he reported that his office collected “credible evidence that the Russian armed forces had used cluster bombs in populated areas on at least 24 occasions” since the beginning of the conflict.

kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Maternity, Mariupol
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Market, Kharkiv
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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University, Kharkiv
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Civilian car, Marakiv
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Bombing of a greengrocer
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Theater, Mariupol
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Hospital, Mykolayiv
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Humanitarian Corridor, Irpin
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Post Office, Kharkov
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Block of buildings, Chernihiv
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Shopping center, Kyiv
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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College, Kharkiv
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Civilian car, north of kyiv
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Civil buildings, Volnovakha
kyiv, Mariupol and Kharkiv city bombed by Russia
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Residential area, Dnipro

At least 1,081 civilians have died, including 90 children , and 1,650 have been injured after the first month of war in Ukraine, according to the United Nations Organization, which in its latest report indicates that, in reality, the numbers are higher although he has no way of confirming them. The Ukrainian authorities, for their part, put the dead civilians at several thousand and point out that more than 5,000 citizens have already died in Mariupol alone . There are so many corpses that they have had to dig mass graves to be able to bury them.

The mass exodus of refugees also shows the cruelty and fear that the Kremlin army has sown. The daily rain of Russian shells has reduced hundreds of buildings to rubble and dust and driven some 10 million people from their homes to another country or to a safer place on Ukrainian soil.

They are the results of the humanitarian catastrophe that Vladimir Putin has perpetrated on Ukraine in just over 30 days of invasion. A war with no end in sight. For the Russian dictator, nothing is further from reality, a "special military operation" that seeks to "denazify" the former Soviet republic and that, paradoxically for his alleged intention, has led him to be branded as the Hitler of the century XXI.

Recorded battles and explosions and violence against civilians

Explosions and violence against civilians by Russian military forces. Data until March 18. Source: ACLED.

The daily Russian attacks have affected the entire country: east, south, north and even west, an area that the troops have not yet reached. The Russian army has not needed to appear personally in the affected areas. Its deadliest method, according to the UN, has been bombing.

The invasion began with bombings against military bases, government headquarters and airports. Strategic points , in military terms. But Putin's troops were quick to target residential buildings, hospitals, cultural and commercial centers, colleges or universities that served as shelter.

The United States has already accused Russia of committing war crimes after identifying that many of the places hit by Russian shells were used by civilians and not the military, as Russia has alleged on several occasions. They have been deliberate attacks against civilians.

Russian missiles have sometimes failed to even evacuate civilians, as happened -and still happens- in the city of Mariupol. In the second week of the invasion, Ukraine and Russia reached a ceasefire agreement to make it easier for people to evacuate through humanitarian corridors. They even announced the momentary cessation of the bombing. Within a few hours, however, the shells were falling on Mariupol again, forcing the Ukrainian authorities to suspend the evacuations. Nothing is guaranteed with Putin. Russia lied. As he has been doing since the end of 2021, when he denied that he had plans to invade Ukraine.

The UN is investigating reports that Russian troops shot and killed civilians in their vehicles as they tried to flee Mariupol. Accusations that the Kremlin denies.

The New York Times points out that the devastation caused by the Russian army affects 23 hospitals, 900 houses or residential blocks, 330 schools, 27 cultural centers and 98 commercial buildings. In total, according to data from the American newspaper, 1,500 civilian buildings, structures and vehicles have been damaged or destroyed since the conflict began on February 24.



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HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
LOL Goebbels would be proud! The government legalized propaganda. What do you NOT understand about repeating government propaganda?

Were you around during the Vietnam war and heard the reports every night about how we were winning?

Yeah I was around, although I was just a young teen then, more focused on getting laid and getting high but I still managed to watch the news and I paid more attention to the film which showed a very different picture, nothing at all that looked like we were winning. I guess even then you didn't know how to keep from getting trapped in whatever information rabbit hole you jumped into?
 

Chi13

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
LOL Goebbels would be proud! The government legalized propaganda. What do you NOT understand about repeating government propaganda?

Were you around during the Vietnam war and heard the reports every night about how we were winning?
:laughing: You parrot Russian propaganda. A country that outright bans any media that contradicts Putin, and you accuse others of propaganda?.

Thank you for the entertainment.
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
At the same time that the first attack on Russian territory by Ukraine takes place, Putin begins to receive his order for Syrian minced meat... Putin can already begin to consider urban warfare. And I believe that these are not the Syrian Tigers, but a pack of poor bastards who have been given a Kalash, and have had a patch/badge put on their uniform...:


UKRAINE
300 Syrian soldiers arrive in Russia to fight Ukraine

It has long been rumored that they will arrive and there is also controversy over the salary they will receive for participating in the war.

Nura Portella
Photo: Europa Press
Barcelona. Friday, April 1, 2022. 8:58 AM
Updated: Friday, April 1, 2022. 8:58 AM
Reading Time: 2 minutes



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Rumors have been circulating for weeks about the Syrian army 's possible entry into the Ukrainian war, and it seems that it has finally been fulfilled . A military unit of the country's 300-strong army arrived in Russia on Thursday for military training before being sent to Ukraine to fight in the war. This information comes from an anonymous recruiter who has also told the American media that the Russians want to recruit 16,000 Syrians and send them to the conflict with specific conditions of age, men between 20 and 45 years , and weight, which should range from 50 to 90 pounds. Please note that soldiers will receive a monthly salary of between $ 1,000 and $ 2,000 a month if they die during the conflict, they have been promised that their families will receive $ 2,800 and a monthly payment of $ 600 a year. .
The 300 who have already arrived in Russia are part of the 25th Division of the Syrian Army, known as the
Tiger Forces,
considered elite and will work hand in hand with the Russian army during Vladimir Putin's offensive on Ukraine. . Syria has become an
exporter of mercenaries
in recent years as a result of the war. These are sent to critical points in Libya, Azerbaijan, the Central African Republic and now also Ukraine.
Although
The New York Times
is now talking about a salary of between $ 1,000 and $ 2,000, the BBC reported on Wednesday that they
could charge £ 5,000
, which translates to £ 6,000. The British channel had spoken to a Syrian soldier who had volunteered to fight the Ukrainians against Russia, although he said that what the Russians were doing was a massacre. However, he pointed out that Putin
is helping poor Syrians who have nothing.
Although his family, which would receive around € 43,600 if killed in the conflict, according to the BBC, is opposed to his involvement in the conflict, the young man had offered to fight for Ukrainian territory. In addition, he claimed to know up to
200 more people willing to follow in his footsteps.
Ukraine says there are at least 14 recruitment centers in Syria.

Also mercenaries of the Wagner group

Syrians are not the only Russian mercenaries to have been deployed in Ukraine. This week it has also been confirmed, after many rumors and assumptions, that the Wagner group, also known as Putin's army, is already present in Ukraine. The British Ministry of Defense has warned that more than a thousand mercenaries, including the organization's top leaders, could be deployed to carry out new operations . "Due to the large number of losses they have suffered and the largely stagnant invasion, it is very likely that Russia will be forced to prioritize Wagner's personnel over Ukraine, at the expense of operations in Africa and Syria. ", the ministry published in a tweet.
The group operates in Syria, Libya, Mali and the Central African Republic, commits war crimes and is led by
Yevgeny Prigozhin
, known as "Putin's Chef", an oligarch who became rich after leaving prison with a company. catering and its movements have destabilized American or European elections. Prigozhin is part of
the FBI's most wanted
list and is the liaison between Russian President Dimitri Utkin, the group's field leader. Utkin is a longtime colonel of Russian military intelligence who fought in the two wars in Chechnya and was decorated by Putin. The group's name comes from Uktin's fanaticism for the Third Reich:
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
[FONT=Roboto_condensed]WAR IN UKRAINE[/FONT]


Ukraine attack sets Russian warehouse on fire
  • LLUIS MIQUEL HURTADO
    Kyiv
  • XAVIER COLAS
    Moscow
UpdatedFriday, 1 April 2022 - 13:24


[FONT=PT_serif]Fire in the Russian oblast of Belgorod . According to the RBC media, quoting the Kremlin delegate in the region Vyacheslav Gladkov , an "air attack by two helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine " caused a fire in a fuel depot . A series of videos captured by security cameras and amateurs, not verified by this newspaper, show two projectiles hitting the facilities from the air, before triggering a large flare.[/FONT]
[FONT=PT_serif]Gladkov has reported that two employees of the facility were injured , and that the detonation prompted the evacuation of part of the local population. For its part, according to the Reuters agency, the Russian oil company Rosneft , owner of the deposits, has denied that there have been any injuries , although it did not go into details about what happened. The Russian state agency RIA Novosti has shown images of the suffocation of the flames and has specified that the fire has affected eight fuel tanks with two thousand cubic meters each.[/FONT]

[FONT=PT_serif]At a press conference, [/FONT]Kremlin[FONT=PT_serif] spokesman [/FONT]Dimitri Peskov[FONT=PT_serif] reported that President [/FONT]Vladimir Putin[FONT=PT_serif] had been informed about the incident. [/FONT]Peskov[FONT=PT_serif] said the attack could jeopardize [/FONT]Moscow[FONT=PT_serif] 's peace talks with [/FONT]Kiev[FONT=PT_serif] . "Of course this cannot be perceived as improving the conditions for continuing the talks," [/FONT]Peskov[FONT=PT_serif] said , adding that everything is being done to avoid fuel supply interruptions in the city of [/FONT]Belgorod[FONT=PT_serif] .[/FONT]

[FONT=PT_serif]Energy Minister Nikolai Shulginov said the incident will not affect the region's fuel supply or prices for consumers, according to Reuters.[/FONT]
[FONT=PT_serif]This is the first Ukrainian air strike launched directly on Russian soil since the beginning of the invasion. It will also be the second in Belgorod, a province bordering the Ukrainian territory of the Kharkov oblast , one of the cities hardest hit by Russian artillery. According to various media outlets, a huge explosion rocked an arms depot in Belgorod . Without official confirmation, some versions pointed to the impact of a Ukrainian Tochka-U missile.[/FONT]
[FONT=PT_serif]In the case of this Friday, two MI-24 helicopters, flying at low altitude, managed to travel at least 20 km through the Russian sky, circumventing anti-aircraft security devices and damaging, with [/FONT]S-8 rockets[FONT=PT_serif] , an essential element of the logistics architecture. of the Russian offensive. Without fuel, tank advances slow down. It remains to be seen how that will affect the current invasion, which Russia says has stopped in the northwest to fit in with the goal of shielding the eastern regions.[/FONT]


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[FONT=PT_serif]In the last few hours, the Ukrainian Armed[/FONT]

[FONT=PT_serif]In the last few hours, the [/FONT]Ukrainian Armed Forces[FONT=PT_serif] have claimed to have made new advances on the Russians on the outskirts of the capital. These are not seizures of large territories, but they contribute to raising morale in a country whose government continues to recognize that it mistrusts the word of the Kremlin. Without going any further, the day on Thursday was hectic in [/FONT]Kiev[FONT=PT_serif] . At least two large explosions could be heard in the center of the city, showing that the situation is far from stable.

https://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2022/04/01/624699acfdddffa7a68b459f.html
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Three Berries

Active member
Yeah I was around, although I was just a young teen then, more focused on getting laid and getting high but I still managed to watch the news and I paid more attention to the film which showed a very different picture, nothing at all that looked like we were winning. I guess even then you didn't know how to keep from getting trapped in whatever information rabbit hole you jumped into?

I was one month away from being drafted due to my low lottery number when Nixon stopped the draft. Films as in Hollywood?
 

Three Berries

Active member
:laughing: You parrot Russian propaganda. A country that outright bans any media that contradicts Putin, and you accuse others of propaganda?.

Thank you for the entertainment.

And do you quote USA media propaganda? The media that bans conservatives and their ideas? It's legal at the Federal level in the USA to produce propaganda to frame a policy narrative and pay the media to use it, use you for free.

What will trip up the media in the USA is all those who took foreign money to knowingly promote false stories affecting the election and not registering as foreign agents.
 

Petrochemical

Active member
:laughing: You parrot Russian propaganda. A country that outright bans any media that contradicts Putin, and you accuse others of propaganda?.

Thank you for the entertainment.

Now bear in mind that I don't pay attention to Russian politics anymore than I pay attention to light brights anymore my question is, how did Putin make it so that he stayed in office for 20 f****** years?
 

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