Budz Lightyear
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Lets pray this can be over soon 
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ButterflyEffect
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No issues. I really didn't intend anything toward you or H.H. I very likely was trying to respond to one of the house idiots and it somehow quoted the wrong user. If I have time maybe I'll hunt back through the pages to see, just for the sake of curiosity. I feel that you and H.H are voices of reason here, so I'd be way off base to do that.
ButterflyEffect
Well-known member
I hear you and I struggle thru the many pages popping up each day. It's easy to get confused especially when people just copy and past large sections of some other page rather then putting their argument in their own words. If I were to properly scrutinize the new pages that pop between the once a day visits I make I would find myself her for 10-12 hours or more and that would have me seriously neglecting aspects of my life that are infinitely more important then trying to convince people to look at things differently when they're completely closed to any other opinion then their own or the one's they quote from dubious web sites that support their particular point of view. If we tried to sort it out it would probably prove out that both of us misunderstood something. Anyway like I told HH in and earlier post this side topic is now 3 or 4 days old and as such not really worth pursuing any more. I'm inclined to write it off as a mutual misunderstanding due to the "Fog of BS"
Thanks brother! Stay well.
Budz Lightyear
Member
A peace deal wont be too good for the MIC contractors,... I wonder what the chances are of something happening to Zelensky before he can agree the deal?
ButterflyEffect
Well-known member
Because it was driving me nuts, I went back and looked at my post. IIRC, it was between pages 165-167. I wasn't really responding with anything specific to your, or h.h posts. I was just ranting about how trolls operate and where they get their inspiration from. I guess it was an off-topic reply of sorts so I can see how that would come across as confusing. Sorry again about that!
Three Berries
Active member
He is an expendable actor in a movie. Zio-Nazi
Montuno
...como el Son...
A little bit of Contemporary History, from Iraq, USA, Spain, El Salvador and Honduras...
The 1°Battle of Najaf, aka The Battle of al-Andalus Base.
(4 - 4 - 2004; Najaf, Irak)
(In this first fragmented video of the Battle, one can already sense the indiscipline and bravado of the American Blackwater mercenaries, who had recently learned of the horrible death of their comrades in Fallujah, by the Sunni insurgency, and unloaded it on the Shiite masses in Najaf. Spanish soldiers present would accuse them of firing "at the masses", including children, who were hiding the assailants, or at the ambulances that were coming, wasting most of the ammunition in a very short time, after which they would proceed to steal weapons and ammunition from the Spaniards, behind their backs (such as the Spanish Instalaza C-90 RPGs that can be seen in some images, on the ground next to the Blackwaters).
It will be the Spanish snipers, without collateral civilian casualties, who neutralize the insurgent snipers (hidden, sometimes, behind children) vs. the indiscriminate shooting of the Blackwater. Problems and deficiencies of the Spanish and Salvadoran weaponry (some of them can be seen in the video) vs. the unbeatable U.S. weaponry. On the Spanish side, the failures in the machine guns of the BMRs would lead to replace this model).
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BLT8uef2vEw
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The military soldier Zancada, of the Spanish Army, defending the rooftop of the 'Al Ándalus' Base during the Battle of Najaf on April 4, 2004 (source General Alberto Asarta, published in the book 'Y al final, la guerra', by Lorenzo Silva and Luis Miguel Francisco)..
PART 1: - BACKGROUND
The last War of Irak, is a black point in Spanish politics and on the international scene that history will judge. Beyond the controversy over the participation of the Spanish troops behind the photo of the Azores and José María Aznar's claim to change the axis of influence of Spanish interests from Europe to the United States, we find the effort and good work made by Spanish soldiers in Iraq. Even more, we are talking about heroic actions of the Spanish Army, which occurred on April 4, 2004 in Najaf, in what has been called The Battle of Najaf due to the attacks of the Army of the Mahdi against the Spanish Al Andalus base in that Iraqi town and which would later be extended to other targets such as the Spain Base in Diwaniya. Among the Spaniards the ghost of danger and misfortune hovered that a few months before, on November 29, 2003, had struck the Spanish intelligence services. 7 agents traveling in a convoy 30 km south of Baghdad were killed, another agent was injured and managed to save his life. Among the deceased was the person in charge of the services in Iraq for several years, Alberto Martínez. A month earlier, in October, another CNI agent had been assassinated in Baghdad. Among the deceased was the person in charge of the services in Iraq for several years, Alberto Martínez. A month earlier, in October, another CNI agent had been assassinated in Baghdad. Among the deceased was the person in charge of the services in Iraq for several years, Alberto Martínez. A month earlier, in October, another CNI agent had been assassinated in Baghdad.
C.N.I.
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Spanish soldiers saved the lives of 102 Salvadorans, Hondurans and Iraqis in a suicide mission
Javier Fernández Arribas-Atalayar Editorial Office
Photo: Spanish soldiers who lived through the battle of Najaf.
False causes for a war
10 years have passed and the current perspective of what is happening in Iraq has nothing to do with what the Bush administration was selling us against Saddam Hussein and his fake weapons of mass destruction, for a war that is only understood by the need to manage the production of Iraqi oil,
for closely control Iran, for establishing strong points against China and for provoking confrontations between Shiites and Sunnies within the Muslim community, with Al Qaeda attacks to stir up hatred even more. Surely there are many other great reasons such as the need to put an end to a bloodthirsty and terrible regime, displace the economic interests of Russia and France, favor the enrichment of speculative companies like Halliburton with Vice President Dick Cheney as the most visible head and have a stage to test new weapons systems, communications and exchange of influence points in the energy sector.
The fact is that in the midst of the military intervention in Afghanistan to end the logistics base of Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden in retaliation after the 9/11 attacks against the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, the need arises to end the regime of Saddam Hussein who a few years earlier had served Western interests to stop the extension of the revolution of the ayatollahs of Iran and to justify the US military presence in the area of great energy interest after the liberation of Kuwait. Following the military victory of the US-led coalition and the removal of Saddam Hussein, the real war then began with the serious mistake of disbanding the Iraqi Army, Police and Baath Party. The anti-American insurgency the clashes between sunnies and shiites with many unfinished historical bills and Al Qaeda terrorists created an unsustainable situation where violence was constant, living conditions unbearable for Iraqis and a deep international division grew. In the end, the solution stemmed from a negotiation between the US commanders and the Iraqi insurgents for the holding of elections and the consolidation of a government that reflected the distribution of power among the different groups. 10 years later, the political situation suffers from serious changes due to terrorist attacks that seek to destabilize the government to gain power quotas, but day by day it is consolidating despite its political and security fragility. The solution stemmed from a negotiation between the North American commanders and the Iraqi insurgents for the holding of elections and the consolidation of a government that reflected the distribution of power among the different groups. 10 years later, the political situation suffers from serious changes due to terrorist attacks that seek to destabilize the government to gain power quotas, but day by day it is consolidating despite its political and security fragility. The solution stemmed from a negotiation between the North American commanders and the Iraqi insurgents for the holding of elections and the consolidation of a government that reflected the distribution of power among the different groups. 10 years later, the political situation suffers from serious changes due to terrorist attacks that seek to destabilize the government to gain power quotas, but day by day it is consolidating despite its political and security fragility.
The sending of the Plus Ultra I and II Brigades to Iraq :
On July 13, 2003, an Iraqi Governing Council was established in Iraq, as the first step for the transition in the country after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein by the US invasion that year. On August 14, 2003, the UN Security Council adopts resolution 1483 , promoted by Spain, the United States and the United Kingdom and approved by 14 votes in favor and one abstention (that of Syria), which establishes a Mission of UN assistance in Iraq. Two weeks later, Spain deployed the Plus Ultra I Brigade in Iraq as a stabilization force , distributed in two locations: the "Spain" Base in Diwaniya, where the Brigade's headquarters are located, and the "Al Ándalus" Base in Najaf, considered a holy city by Shiism.
A Spanish BMR 600 in Irak
In December 2003, the Spanish contingent was relieved by the Plus Ultra II Brigade, made up of 1,300 Spanish soldiers from the Special Operations Group "CL Maderal Oleaga" XIX (GOE XIX, the former Special Operations Flag of the Legion, BOEL), a Light Cavalry Squadron (ELAC) of the 12th “Farnesio” Light Armored Cavalry Regiment and the 6th “Savoy” Mechanized Infantry Regiment, in addition to a FAMET helicopter unit, an engineer unit, a transmission unit and a unit logistical support. The Brigade is also completed with 1,100 soldiers from El Salvador, Honduras and the Dominican Republic.
A select marksman from the GOE XIX aiming his Accuracy International AW308 precision rifle at the Battle of Najaf on April 4, 2004 (source: “And at the end, the war”, by Lorenzo Silva and Luis Miguel Francisco).[/l]
Waiting the withdrawal order:
The victory of the PSOE in the elections held three days after the 11-M attacks seriously affects the mission: the first decision that José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero makes as soon as he arrives in government is to withdraw the Spanish troops from Iraq. The third rotation to relieve the Spanish contingent in Iraq is already underway, but its deployment is affected by the withdrawal order. Before that, one of the biggest battles in which the Spanish military have been involved in recent decades occurs in Iraq.
Farnesio Regiment Blog ).
A Cavalry Exploration Vehicle (VEC) of the Spanish Army in Iraq. Four VEC of the “Farnesio” Regiment covered the perimeter of the “Al Ándalus” Base with their 25 mm cannons during the Battle of Najaf (source
Next part : 2- From the "Sunni explosion" of Fallujah to the Shiite explosion in Najaf
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END PART 1 - The background
The 1°Battle of Najaf, aka The Battle of al-Andalus Base.
(4 - 4 - 2004; Najaf, Irak)
(In this first fragmented video of the Battle, one can already sense the indiscipline and bravado of the American Blackwater mercenaries, who had recently learned of the horrible death of their comrades in Fallujah, by the Sunni insurgency, and unloaded it on the Shiite masses in Najaf. Spanish soldiers present would accuse them of firing "at the masses", including children, who were hiding the assailants, or at the ambulances that were coming, wasting most of the ammunition in a very short time, after which they would proceed to steal weapons and ammunition from the Spaniards, behind their backs (such as the Spanish Instalaza C-90 RPGs that can be seen in some images, on the ground next to the Blackwaters).
It will be the Spanish snipers, without collateral civilian casualties, who neutralize the insurgent snipers (hidden, sometimes, behind children) vs. the indiscriminate shooting of the Blackwater. Problems and deficiencies of the Spanish and Salvadoran weaponry (some of them can be seen in the video) vs. the unbeatable U.S. weaponry. On the Spanish side, the failures in the machine guns of the BMRs would lead to replace this model).
.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BLT8uef2vEw
.
The military soldier Zancada, of the Spanish Army, defending the rooftop of the 'Al Ándalus' Base during the Battle of Najaf on April 4, 2004 (source General Alberto Asarta, published in the book 'Y al final, la guerra', by Lorenzo Silva and Luis Miguel Francisco)..
PART 1: - BACKGROUND
The last War of Irak, is a black point in Spanish politics and on the international scene that history will judge. Beyond the controversy over the participation of the Spanish troops behind the photo of the Azores and José María Aznar's claim to change the axis of influence of Spanish interests from Europe to the United States, we find the effort and good work made by Spanish soldiers in Iraq. Even more, we are talking about heroic actions of the Spanish Army, which occurred on April 4, 2004 in Najaf, in what has been called The Battle of Najaf due to the attacks of the Army of the Mahdi against the Spanish Al Andalus base in that Iraqi town and which would later be extended to other targets such as the Spain Base in Diwaniya. Among the Spaniards the ghost of danger and misfortune hovered that a few months before, on November 29, 2003, had struck the Spanish intelligence services. 7 agents traveling in a convoy 30 km south of Baghdad were killed, another agent was injured and managed to save his life. Among the deceased was the person in charge of the services in Iraq for several years, Alberto Martínez. A month earlier, in October, another CNI agent had been assassinated in Baghdad. Among the deceased was the person in charge of the services in Iraq for several years, Alberto Martínez. A month earlier, in October, another CNI agent had been assassinated in Baghdad. Among the deceased was the person in charge of the services in Iraq for several years, Alberto Martínez. A month earlier, in October, another CNI agent had been assassinated in Baghdad.
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Spanish soldiers saved the lives of 102 Salvadorans, Hondurans and Iraqis in a suicide mission
Javier Fernández Arribas-Atalayar Editorial Office
Photo: Spanish soldiers who lived through the battle of Najaf.
False causes for a war
10 years have passed and the current perspective of what is happening in Iraq has nothing to do with what the Bush administration was selling us against Saddam Hussein and his fake weapons of mass destruction, for a war that is only understood by the need to manage the production of Iraqi oil,
The fact is that in the midst of the military intervention in Afghanistan to end the logistics base of Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden in retaliation after the 9/11 attacks against the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, the need arises to end the regime of Saddam Hussein who a few years earlier had served Western interests to stop the extension of the revolution of the ayatollahs of Iran and to justify the US military presence in the area of great energy interest after the liberation of Kuwait. Following the military victory of the US-led coalition and the removal of Saddam Hussein, the real war then began with the serious mistake of disbanding the Iraqi Army, Police and Baath Party. The anti-American insurgency the clashes between sunnies and shiites with many unfinished historical bills and Al Qaeda terrorists created an unsustainable situation where violence was constant, living conditions unbearable for Iraqis and a deep international division grew. In the end, the solution stemmed from a negotiation between the US commanders and the Iraqi insurgents for the holding of elections and the consolidation of a government that reflected the distribution of power among the different groups. 10 years later, the political situation suffers from serious changes due to terrorist attacks that seek to destabilize the government to gain power quotas, but day by day it is consolidating despite its political and security fragility. The solution stemmed from a negotiation between the North American commanders and the Iraqi insurgents for the holding of elections and the consolidation of a government that reflected the distribution of power among the different groups. 10 years later, the political situation suffers from serious changes due to terrorist attacks that seek to destabilize the government to gain power quotas, but day by day it is consolidating despite its political and security fragility. The solution stemmed from a negotiation between the North American commanders and the Iraqi insurgents for the holding of elections and the consolidation of a government that reflected the distribution of power among the different groups. 10 years later, the political situation suffers from serious changes due to terrorist attacks that seek to destabilize the government to gain power quotas, but day by day it is consolidating despite its political and security fragility.
The sending of the Plus Ultra I and II Brigades to Iraq :
On July 13, 2003, an Iraqi Governing Council was established in Iraq, as the first step for the transition in the country after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein by the US invasion that year. On August 14, 2003, the UN Security Council adopts resolution 1483 , promoted by Spain, the United States and the United Kingdom and approved by 14 votes in favor and one abstention (that of Syria), which establishes a Mission of UN assistance in Iraq. Two weeks later, Spain deployed the Plus Ultra I Brigade in Iraq as a stabilization force , distributed in two locations: the "Spain" Base in Diwaniya, where the Brigade's headquarters are located, and the "Al Ándalus" Base in Najaf, considered a holy city by Shiism.
A Spanish BMR 600 in Irak
In December 2003, the Spanish contingent was relieved by the Plus Ultra II Brigade, made up of 1,300 Spanish soldiers from the Special Operations Group "CL Maderal Oleaga" XIX (GOE XIX, the former Special Operations Flag of the Legion, BOEL), a Light Cavalry Squadron (ELAC) of the 12th “Farnesio” Light Armored Cavalry Regiment and the 6th “Savoy” Mechanized Infantry Regiment, in addition to a FAMET helicopter unit, an engineer unit, a transmission unit and a unit logistical support. The Brigade is also completed with 1,100 soldiers from El Salvador, Honduras and the Dominican Republic.
A select marksman from the GOE XIX aiming his Accuracy International AW308 precision rifle at the Battle of Najaf on April 4, 2004 (source: “And at the end, the war”, by Lorenzo Silva and Luis Miguel Francisco).[/l]
Waiting the withdrawal order:
The victory of the PSOE in the elections held three days after the 11-M attacks seriously affects the mission: the first decision that José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero makes as soon as he arrives in government is to withdraw the Spanish troops from Iraq. The third rotation to relieve the Spanish contingent in Iraq is already underway, but its deployment is affected by the withdrawal order. Before that, one of the biggest battles in which the Spanish military have been involved in recent decades occurs in Iraq.
Farnesio Regiment Blog ).
A Cavalry Exploration Vehicle (VEC) of the Spanish Army in Iraq. Four VEC of the “Farnesio” Regiment covered the perimeter of the “Al Ándalus” Base with their 25 mm cannons during the Battle of Najaf (source
Next part : 2- From the "Sunni explosion" of Fallujah to the Shiite explosion in Najaf
...
END PART 1 - The background
No big deal, like I said, it's so far in the past now there's no real point in discussing it more. We all make mistakes, even if some of us here, like certain Russian propaganda repeating trolls whom I shall not name, are incapable of recognizing in themselves.
Putin's not going to take any deal. His claims of just wanting the separatist regions are a smokescreen, If that's all he wanted he could have accomplished that day one and have this whole thing looking like an amazing victory for Russia. His goal all along has been to take the whole country which is why he's now bombing western border cities rather then moving to his alledged phase 2 of taking the separatist regions.
Montuno
...como el Son...
PART 2 - From the Faluya "Sunnie explosion", to the Najaf "Shiie explosion".
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...p2mt3ER1liQ-vK
Another fragmented video on the Battle of Najaf, this time with more images from the "Shiite insurgent side".
Nayaf
Nayaf.
[FONT=PT_serif]Najaf was not just any enclave, but the Shiite holy city, a hub for massive pilgrimages and sacred burial ground. Tomb of Ali Ibn Abi Talib , Muhammad 's cousin , married to Fatima , one of the Prophet's daughters, and origin of the Shiite branch of Islam. A religious volcano. A powder keg. A hornet's nest.[/FONT]
[FONT=PT_serif]About Najaf:[/FONT]
An Islamic holy city, Najaf, is home to the shrine of Imam Ali Ibn Abi Talib, the Prophet Mohammad's cousin and son-in-law and fourth caliph (656-661). Najaf also contains one of the largest cemeteries in the world.
Acording to Iman Ali, any Muslim buried here will enter paradise; as a result, the tombs of several prophets are found in Najaf. Shia Muslims especially consider it a privilege to be buried here. Like Karbala, Najaf became an important center of Islamic scholarship and theology. During his exile from Iran, Ayatollah Khomeini lived here for 12 years prior to the 1979 revolution in Iran. In 1999, the Iraqi Shia leader Ayatollah Mohammad Sadiq al-Sadr was assassinated in Najaf, sparking clashes between Shia and the Iraqi government.
In the nineteenth century, the shrine cities of Najaf and Karbala in Ottoman Iraq emerged as the most important Shi'i centers of learning. Najaf is known for being an Islamic center for scientific, literary and theological studies for the whole Islamic world and mainly for the Shiites, therefore Najaf is attractive for a large number of people, poets, authors and other visitors from China/India, Lebanon, Pakistan and Iran which is estimated annually over half a million.
Najaf has a population of 560,000, and Muhammad's son-in-law, Imam Ali bin Ali Talib, is buried in the Imam Ali mosque. Iran's Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini spent 1964-78 in exile in Najaf. The holy city of Najaf is located 160 kilometers South of Baghdad and 60 km to the south of Hilla. Najaf in arabic means a high land where water cannot be reached. It is a city situated on high plateau over a sandy ground looking down from northern and eastern sides on wide scope camp of domes and tombs called valley of the peace. Najaf is a city of low-level sprawl, with boulevards lined by trees, arched brick buildings, and streets filled with bearded clerics wearing white or black turbans. Najaf is the spiritual center of Shiite Islam, site of the shrine of the Imam Ali, son-in-law of the Prophet Mohammad and first leader of the Shias.
Four senior Grand Ayatollahs constitute the Religious Institution (al-Hawzah al-`Ilmiyyah) in Najaf, the preeminent seminary center for the training of Shiite clergymen. Before the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran, Najaf was the most important center of study for Shia religious leaders. However, Saddam Hussein ordered mass arrests and the expulsion of senior clerics, giving the Iranian seminary in the city of Qom the opportunity to take over the religious leadership of the Shias. Qom was the pre-eminent religious center for Shia Muslims for 25 years. But Najaf has a history of more than a millenium of leadership, and the Iranian clerics who run the holy city of Qom, are facing a revived rival. As of mid-2003 the seminary in Qom hosted between 40,000 and 50,000 clergy, while the number in Najaf stould at about 2,000, down from about 10,000 before the Ba'ath regime took. The first exodus from Qom to Najaf is expected to be by exiled Iraqi clerics, estimated to number between 3,000, and 5,000.
Qom may face a challenge over the concept of the Velayat-e-Faqih - the God-given authority for a top religious leader to oversee secular in the absence of the Prophet Mohammad and infallible imams. The Najaf school does not interpret the Velayat-e-Faqih as meaning the direct intevention of religion in politics. The Najaf seminary's view of the Velayat-e-Faqih is that of a supervisor and adviser. The Qom school believes the opposite, with Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, officially considered as the highest religious authority of the world's Shias. Qom sees the direct involvement of clerics in state ruling and executive affairs as their legitimate right and moral obligation.
For months before, it had been observed in Najaf, and more specifically in the Ali Mosque, a holy place for the Shiites, the presence of Islamic courts that applied the sharia, and with which Muqtada Al Sadr was extending his power over the population .
. The two main clerics were at loggerheads over whether or not to collaborate with the foreign troops. The dispute was settled by arms. The Mahdi Army, under the orders of the cleric Muqtada al-Sadr (the same one who in May 2018 was the top vote-getter in the first post-Islamic State Iraqi presidential elections), assassinated the cleric Abdul Majid Al Joei.
They then began to organize a parallel administration in the city. They took advantage of the fact that international troops could not enter holy places to use the Kufa mosque as a nerve center, where they kept weapons and conducted military training. In the Ali mosque they set up religious courts to enforce Sharia (Islamic law) and dungeons.
The Americans exhorted the Brigade under Spanish command to neutralize them. Due to the sensitivity of the context, the operation that was designed for this purpose, and which was finally scheduled for February 20, 2004, left the leading role to the Iraqi police, in order not to cause the offense that the entry of foreign soldiers would represent. and infidels in sacred precincts.
[FONT=PT_serif]The atmosphere at the base had been tense since, in February, the Coalition Command, led by Paul Bremer from Baghdad's Green Zone, had, among other measures, ordered the BMPUII to neutralize the young and extremist cleric Muqtada Al- Sadrand its armed wing, the Army of the Mahri, a fanatical barrage militia. The Spanish Flugencio Coll, as in other US initiatives, raised military and diplomatic objections.[/FONT]
[FONT=PT_serif]The Americans, in favor of expeditious methods, did not understand the propensity of the Spanish to negotiate rather than shoot. Nor his consideration towards local customs and institutions to avoid greater evils. They accused them of cowardice. But our Rules of Engagement were very restrictive. Therefore, later, after the March 11 attacks that led to the electoral victory of the PSOE , the Army found itself facing a power vacuum. Aznar was leaving and Zapatero had included in his program the withdrawal of the Spanish troops[/FONT]
American Discrepancies
As of February 21, 2004, the Spanish commanders knew that something key had changed in their mission in Iraq and that bad times were ahead. The Spanish troops embedded in the Plus Ultra Brigade had arrived in Iraq on April 9, 2003 and their work in the Diwaniya and Najaf area was to maintain peace and participate in reconstruction.
However, the US command led by Hispanic General Ricardo Sánchez, instigated by the civil officer Paul Bremer, and both pressured by the intense trickle of US casualties, demanded that the Spanish be more involved in combating the insurgency.
The Spanish refusal was constant, creating certain tensions between General Sánchez and the Spanish generals, first with Alfredo Cardona and later with Fulgencio
Coll.
The Americans came to disparagingly call the Spanish contingent, known by its acronym BMNPU II, as" the teddy bear that stays still, Winni the pooh II."
February 21, the US command intended to carry out an operation to end the courts of Sharia, Islamic law. A very delicate action against the Shiite leader Muqtada el Sadr. Neither Spaniards nor Iraqis wanted to do it with the consequent discomfort of General Sánchez. From then on, US special forces carried out different missions in the area with the consequent increase in tension that reached its peak on March 31, 2004 with the murder in Fallujah of four alleged US contractors, mercenaries from the Blackwater company, whose corpses were brutally beaten,
[FONT=PT_serif]On March 31, the murder of four contractors led the SEALs to the violent capture of [/FONT]Mustafa Al-Yaqubi[FONT=PT_serif] , Al-Sadr's lieutenant. It was rumored that the Americans wore Spanish badges so that the Shiites would hold our people responsible for the action, attack the base in retaliation and force them to fight.
1° Battle of Fallujah; "the Sunni explosion[/FONT]
As part of the Iraqi occupation, the first Battle of Fallujah , codenamed Operation Vigilant Resolve , was an unsuccessful attempt to occupy the city of Fallujah by the US Army in April 2004 .
Marine USA guarding highway number 1, on the outskirts of Fallujah.
The main motivation for the operation was the widely publicized killing and maiming of 4 Blackwater Worldwide military contractors and the killing of 5 US soldiers in Habbaniya a few days earlier.
The siege by US forces on the city polarized public opinion on the situation in Iraq . The battle would cost the lives of approximately 600 civilians.
On March 31, 2004, Iraqi insurgents ambushed a convoy of four Blackwater military contractors who were conducting a supply drop. The men; Scott Helvenston, Jerko Zovko, Wesley Batalona and Michael Teague were killed by heavy machine gun fire and a grenade, which was thrown into their vehicle. Shortly after, a mob set their bodies on fire and dragged them through the streets, later to be hung on a bridge that crosses the Euphrates River.
Initially, the US local command tried to treat the matter as a police case, directing operations of this type against the executors of the contractors, but, given the pressure of the images broadcast of the death of the Americans, it was arranged that it be treated as a counterinsurgency operation, typically military.
Consequently, the Marine Corps' strategy of foot patrols, less aggressive interventions, humanitarian aid, and close cooperation with local leaders was suspended with the intention of cleansing the city of Fallujah of insurgent groups.
On April 1, Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, the US Army 's second in command of operations in Iraq, promised an overwhelming response: the death of the four Blackwater contractors, saying they would "pacify the city . "
On April 3, the First Expeditionary Force received a written order from Operations Command , decreeing a large-scale offensive operation against insurgents in Fallujah . This order ran counter to the wishes of several Marine Corps commanders, who sought targeted interventions and hits to stop those suspected of killing Blackwater employees.
As military operations began in the city of Fallujah, the fighting intensified, attracting mujahideen warriors from all over Iraq.
The internal political conditions of Iraq, in which the first post-Saddam Iraqi government was established, forced a halt to the military operations carried out in the city. However, the flow of warriors to that city continued.
But, returning to Nayaf....
END OF PART 2 - From the Faluya "Sunnie explosion", to the Najaf "Shiie explosion".
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...p2mt3ER1liQ-vK
Another fragmented video on the Battle of Najaf, this time with more images from the "Shiite insurgent side".
Nayaf
[FONT=PT_serif]Najaf was not just any enclave, but the Shiite holy city, a hub for massive pilgrimages and sacred burial ground. Tomb of Ali Ibn Abi Talib , Muhammad 's cousin , married to Fatima , one of the Prophet's daughters, and origin of the Shiite branch of Islam. A religious volcano. A powder keg. A hornet's nest.[/FONT]
[FONT=PT_serif]About Najaf:[/FONT]
An Islamic holy city, Najaf, is home to the shrine of Imam Ali Ibn Abi Talib, the Prophet Mohammad's cousin and son-in-law and fourth caliph (656-661). Najaf also contains one of the largest cemeteries in the world.
Acording to Iman Ali, any Muslim buried here will enter paradise; as a result, the tombs of several prophets are found in Najaf. Shia Muslims especially consider it a privilege to be buried here. Like Karbala, Najaf became an important center of Islamic scholarship and theology. During his exile from Iran, Ayatollah Khomeini lived here for 12 years prior to the 1979 revolution in Iran. In 1999, the Iraqi Shia leader Ayatollah Mohammad Sadiq al-Sadr was assassinated in Najaf, sparking clashes between Shia and the Iraqi government.
In the nineteenth century, the shrine cities of Najaf and Karbala in Ottoman Iraq emerged as the most important Shi'i centers of learning. Najaf is known for being an Islamic center for scientific, literary and theological studies for the whole Islamic world and mainly for the Shiites, therefore Najaf is attractive for a large number of people, poets, authors and other visitors from China/India, Lebanon, Pakistan and Iran which is estimated annually over half a million.
Najaf has a population of 560,000, and Muhammad's son-in-law, Imam Ali bin Ali Talib, is buried in the Imam Ali mosque. Iran's Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini spent 1964-78 in exile in Najaf. The holy city of Najaf is located 160 kilometers South of Baghdad and 60 km to the south of Hilla. Najaf in arabic means a high land where water cannot be reached. It is a city situated on high plateau over a sandy ground looking down from northern and eastern sides on wide scope camp of domes and tombs called valley of the peace. Najaf is a city of low-level sprawl, with boulevards lined by trees, arched brick buildings, and streets filled with bearded clerics wearing white or black turbans. Najaf is the spiritual center of Shiite Islam, site of the shrine of the Imam Ali, son-in-law of the Prophet Mohammad and first leader of the Shias.
Four senior Grand Ayatollahs constitute the Religious Institution (al-Hawzah al-`Ilmiyyah) in Najaf, the preeminent seminary center for the training of Shiite clergymen. Before the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran, Najaf was the most important center of study for Shia religious leaders. However, Saddam Hussein ordered mass arrests and the expulsion of senior clerics, giving the Iranian seminary in the city of Qom the opportunity to take over the religious leadership of the Shias. Qom was the pre-eminent religious center for Shia Muslims for 25 years. But Najaf has a history of more than a millenium of leadership, and the Iranian clerics who run the holy city of Qom, are facing a revived rival. As of mid-2003 the seminary in Qom hosted between 40,000 and 50,000 clergy, while the number in Najaf stould at about 2,000, down from about 10,000 before the Ba'ath regime took. The first exodus from Qom to Najaf is expected to be by exiled Iraqi clerics, estimated to number between 3,000, and 5,000.
Qom may face a challenge over the concept of the Velayat-e-Faqih - the God-given authority for a top religious leader to oversee secular in the absence of the Prophet Mohammad and infallible imams. The Najaf school does not interpret the Velayat-e-Faqih as meaning the direct intevention of religion in politics. The Najaf seminary's view of the Velayat-e-Faqih is that of a supervisor and adviser. The Qom school believes the opposite, with Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, officially considered as the highest religious authority of the world's Shias. Qom sees the direct involvement of clerics in state ruling and executive affairs as their legitimate right and moral obligation.
For months before, it had been observed in Najaf, and more specifically in the Ali Mosque, a holy place for the Shiites, the presence of Islamic courts that applied the sharia, and with which Muqtada Al Sadr was extending his power over the population .
. The two main clerics were at loggerheads over whether or not to collaborate with the foreign troops. The dispute was settled by arms. The Mahdi Army, under the orders of the cleric Muqtada al-Sadr (the same one who in May 2018 was the top vote-getter in the first post-Islamic State Iraqi presidential elections), assassinated the cleric Abdul Majid Al Joei.
They then began to organize a parallel administration in the city. They took advantage of the fact that international troops could not enter holy places to use the Kufa mosque as a nerve center, where they kept weapons and conducted military training. In the Ali mosque they set up religious courts to enforce Sharia (Islamic law) and dungeons.
The Americans exhorted the Brigade under Spanish command to neutralize them. Due to the sensitivity of the context, the operation that was designed for this purpose, and which was finally scheduled for February 20, 2004, left the leading role to the Iraqi police, in order not to cause the offense that the entry of foreign soldiers would represent. and infidels in sacred precincts.
[FONT=PT_serif]The atmosphere at the base had been tense since, in February, the Coalition Command, led by Paul Bremer from Baghdad's Green Zone, had, among other measures, ordered the BMPUII to neutralize the young and extremist cleric Muqtada Al- Sadrand its armed wing, the Army of the Mahri, a fanatical barrage militia. The Spanish Flugencio Coll, as in other US initiatives, raised military and diplomatic objections.[/FONT]
[FONT=PT_serif]The Americans, in favor of expeditious methods, did not understand the propensity of the Spanish to negotiate rather than shoot. Nor his consideration towards local customs and institutions to avoid greater evils. They accused them of cowardice. But our Rules of Engagement were very restrictive. Therefore, later, after the March 11 attacks that led to the electoral victory of the PSOE , the Army found itself facing a power vacuum. Aznar was leaving and Zapatero had included in his program the withdrawal of the Spanish troops[/FONT]
American Discrepancies
As of February 21, 2004, the Spanish commanders knew that something key had changed in their mission in Iraq and that bad times were ahead. The Spanish troops embedded in the Plus Ultra Brigade had arrived in Iraq on April 9, 2003 and their work in the Diwaniya and Najaf area was to maintain peace and participate in reconstruction.
However, the US command led by Hispanic General Ricardo Sánchez, instigated by the civil officer Paul Bremer, and both pressured by the intense trickle of US casualties, demanded that the Spanish be more involved in combating the insurgency.
The Spanish refusal was constant, creating certain tensions between General Sánchez and the Spanish generals, first with Alfredo Cardona and later with Fulgencio
The Americans came to disparagingly call the Spanish contingent, known by its acronym BMNPU II, as" the teddy bear that stays still, Winni the pooh II."
February 21, the US command intended to carry out an operation to end the courts of Sharia, Islamic law. A very delicate action against the Shiite leader Muqtada el Sadr. Neither Spaniards nor Iraqis wanted to do it with the consequent discomfort of General Sánchez. From then on, US special forces carried out different missions in the area with the consequent increase in tension that reached its peak on March 31, 2004 with the murder in Fallujah of four alleged US contractors, mercenaries from the Blackwater company, whose corpses were brutally beaten,
[FONT=PT_serif]On March 31, the murder of four contractors led the SEALs to the violent capture of [/FONT]Mustafa Al-Yaqubi[FONT=PT_serif] , Al-Sadr's lieutenant. It was rumored that the Americans wore Spanish badges so that the Shiites would hold our people responsible for the action, attack the base in retaliation and force them to fight.
1° Battle of Fallujah; "the Sunni explosion[/FONT]
As part of the Iraqi occupation, the first Battle of Fallujah , codenamed Operation Vigilant Resolve , was an unsuccessful attempt to occupy the city of Fallujah by the US Army in April 2004 .
Marine USA guarding highway number 1, on the outskirts of Fallujah.The main motivation for the operation was the widely publicized killing and maiming of 4 Blackwater Worldwide military contractors and the killing of 5 US soldiers in Habbaniya a few days earlier.
The siege by US forces on the city polarized public opinion on the situation in Iraq . The battle would cost the lives of approximately 600 civilians.
On March 31, 2004, Iraqi insurgents ambushed a convoy of four Blackwater military contractors who were conducting a supply drop. The men; Scott Helvenston, Jerko Zovko, Wesley Batalona and Michael Teague were killed by heavy machine gun fire and a grenade, which was thrown into their vehicle. Shortly after, a mob set their bodies on fire and dragged them through the streets, later to be hung on a bridge that crosses the Euphrates River.
Initially, the US local command tried to treat the matter as a police case, directing operations of this type against the executors of the contractors, but, given the pressure of the images broadcast of the death of the Americans, it was arranged that it be treated as a counterinsurgency operation, typically military.
Consequently, the Marine Corps' strategy of foot patrols, less aggressive interventions, humanitarian aid, and close cooperation with local leaders was suspended with the intention of cleansing the city of Fallujah of insurgent groups.
On April 1, Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, the US Army 's second in command of operations in Iraq, promised an overwhelming response: the death of the four Blackwater contractors, saying they would "pacify the city . "
On April 3, the First Expeditionary Force received a written order from Operations Command , decreeing a large-scale offensive operation against insurgents in Fallujah . This order ran counter to the wishes of several Marine Corps commanders, who sought targeted interventions and hits to stop those suspected of killing Blackwater employees.
As military operations began in the city of Fallujah, the fighting intensified, attracting mujahideen warriors from all over Iraq.
The internal political conditions of Iraq, in which the first post-Saddam Iraqi government was established, forced a halt to the military operations carried out in the city. However, the flow of warriors to that city continued.
But, returning to Nayaf....
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1 - From the Faluya "Sunnie explosion", to the Najaf "Shiie explosion".
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...p2mt3ER1liQ-vK
Another fragmented video on the Battle of Najaf, this time with more images from the "Shiite insurgent side".
[FONT=PT_serif]Najaf was not just any enclave, but the Shiite holy city, a hub for massive pilgrimages and sacred burial ground. Tomb of Ali Ibn Abi Talib , Muhammad 's cousin , married to Fatima , one of the Prophet's daughters, and origin of the Shiite branch of Islam. A religious volcano. A powder keg. A hornet's nest.
About Najaf:[/FONT]
An Islamic holy city, Najaf, is home to the shrine of Imam Ali Ibn Abi Talib, the Prophet Mohammad's cousin and son-in-law and fourth caliph (656-661). Najaf also contains one of the largest cemeteries in the world. According to Imam Ali, any Muslim buried here will enter paradise; as a result, the tombs of several prophets are found in Najaf. Shia Muslims especially consider it a privilege to be buried here. Like Karbala, Najaf became an important center of Islamic scholarship and theology. During his exile from Iran, Ayatollah Khomeini lived here for 12 years prior to the 1979 revolution in Iran. In 1999, the Iraqi Shia leader Ayatollah Mohammad Sadiq al-Sadr was assassinated in Najaf, sparking clashes between Shia and the Iraqi government.
In the nineteenth century, the shrine cities of Najaf and Karbala in Ottoman Iraq emerged as the most important Shi'i centers of learning. Najaf is known for being an Islamic center for scientific, literary and theological studies for the whole Islamic world and mainly for the Shiites, therefore Najaf is attractive for a large number of people, poets, authors and other visitors from China/India, Lebanon, Pakistan and Iran which is estimated annually over half a million.
Najaf has a population of 560,000, and Muhammad's son-in-law, Imam Ali bin Ali Talib, is buried in the Imam Ali mosque. Iran's Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini spent 1964-78 in exile in Najaf. The holy city of Najaf is located 160 kilometers South of Baghdad and 60 km to the south of Hilla. Najaf in arabic means a high land where water cannot be reached. It is a city situated on high plateau over a sandy ground looking down from northern and eastern sides on wide scope camp of domes and tombs called valley of the peace. Najaf is a city of low-level sprawl, with boulevards lined by trees, arched brick buildings, and streets filled with bearded clerics wearing white or black turbans. Najaf is the spiritual center of Shiite Islam, site of the shrine of the Imam Ali, son-in-law of the Prophet Mohammad and first leader of the Shias.
Four senior Grand Ayatollahs constitute the Religious Institution (al-Hawzah al-`Ilmiyyah) in Najaf, the preeminent seminary center for the training of Shiite clergymen. Before the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran, Najaf was the most important center of study for Shia religious leaders. However, Saddam Hussein ordered mass arrests and the expulsion of senior clerics, giving the Iranian seminary in the city of Qom the opportunity to take over the religious leadership of the Shias. Qom was the pre-eminent religious center for Shia Muslims for 25 years. But Najaf has a history of more than a millenium of leadership, and the Iranian clerics who run the holy city of Qom, are facing a revived rival. As of mid-2003 the seminary in Qom hosted between 40,000 and 50,000 clergy, while the number in Najaf stould at about 2,000, down from about 10,000 before the Ba'ath regime took. The first exodus from Qom to Najaf is expected to be by exiled Iraqi clerics, estimated to number between 3,000, and 5,000.
Qom may face a challenge over the concept of the Velayat-e-Faqih - the God-given authority for a top religious leader to oversee secular in the absence of the Prophet Mohammad and infallible imams. The Najaf school does not interpret the Velayat-e-Faqih as meaning the direct intevention of religion in politics. The Najaf seminary's view of the Velayat-e-Faqih is that of a supervisor and adviser. The Qom school believes the opposite, with Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, officially considered as the highest religious authority of the world's Shias. Qom sees the direct involvement of clerics in state ruling and executive affairs as their legitimate right and moral obligation.
For months before, it had been observed in Najaf, and more specifically in the Ali Mosque, a holy place for the Shiites, the presence of Islamic courts that applied the sharia, and with which Muqtada Al Sadr was extending his power over the population .
. The two main clerics were at loggerheads over whether or not to collaborate with the foreign troops. The dispute was settled by arms. The Mahdi Army, under the orders of the cleric Muqtada al-Sadr (the same one who in May 2018 was the top vote-getter in the first post-Islamic State Iraqi presidential elections), assassinated the cleric Abdul Majid Al Joei.
They then began to organize a parallel administration in the city. They took advantage of the fact that international troops could not enter holy places to use the Kufa mosque as a nerve center, where they kept weapons and conducted military training. In the Ali mosque they set up religious courts to enforce Sharia (Islamic law) and dungeons.
The Americans exhorted the Brigade under Spanish command to neutralize them. Due to the sensitivity of the context, the operation that was designed for this purpose, and which was finally scheduled for February 20, 2004, left the leading role to the Iraqi police, in order not to cause the offense that the entry of foreign soldiers would represent. and infidels in sacred precincts.
[FONT=PT_serif]The atmosphere at the base had been tense since, in February, the Coalition Command, led by Paul Bremer from Baghdad's Green Zone, had, among other measures, ordered the BMPUII to neutralize the young and extremist cleric Muqtada Al- Sadrand its armed wing, the Army of the Mahri, a fanatical barrage militia. Coll, as in other US initiatives, raised military and diplomatic objections.[/FONT]
[FONT=PT_serif]The Americans, in favor of expeditious methods, did not understand the propensity of the Spanish to negotiate rather than shoot. Nor his consideration towards local customs and institutions to avoid greater evils. They accused them of cowardice. But our Rules of Engagement were very restrictive. Therefore, later, after the March 11 attacks that led to the electoral victory of the PSOE , the Army found itself facing a power vacuum. Aznar was leaving and Zapatero had included in his program the withdrawal of the Spanish troops[/FONT]
American Discrepancies
As of February 21, 2004, the Spanish commanders knew that something key had changed in their mission in Iraq and that bad times were ahead. The Spanish troops embedded in the Plus Ultra Brigade had arrived in Iraq on April 9, 2003 and their work in the Diwaniya and Najaf area was to maintain peace and participate in reconstruction.
However, the US command led by Hispanic General Ricardo Sánchez, instigated by the civil officer Paul Bremer, and both pressured by the intense trickle of US casualties, demanded that the Spanish be more involved in combating the insurgency.
The Spanish refusal was constant, creating certain tensions between General Sánchez and the Spanish generals, first with Alfredo Cardona and later with FulgencioColl.
The Americans came to disparagingly call the Spanish contingent, known by its acronym BMNPU II, as" the teddy bear that stays still, Winni the pooh II."
February 21, the US command intended to carry out an operation to end the courts of Sharia, Islamic law. A very delicate action against the Shiite leader Muqtada el Sadr. Neither Spaniards nor Iraqis wanted to do it with the consequent discomfort of General Sánchez. From then on, US special forces carried out different missions in the area with the consequent increase in tension that reached its peak on March 31, 2004 with the murder in Fallujah of four alleged US contractors, mercenaries from the Blackwater company, whose corpses were brutally beaten,
[FONT=PT_serif]On March 31, the murder of four contractors led the SEALs to the violent capture of [/FONT]Mustafa Al-Yaqubi[FONT=PT_serif] , Al-Sadr's lieutenant. It was rumored that the Americans wore Spanish badges so that the Shiites would hold our people responsible for the action, attack the base in retaliation and force them to fight.[/FONT]
As part of the Iraqi occupation, the first Battle of Fallujah , codenamed Operation Vigilant Resolve , was an unsuccessful attempt to occupy the city of Fallujah by the US Army in April 2004 .
The main motivation for the operation was the widely publicized killing and maiming of 4 Blackwater Worldwide military contractors and the killing of 5 US soldiers in Habbaniya a few days earlier.
The siege by US forces on the city polarized public opinion on the situation in Iraq . The battle would cost the lives of approximately 600 civilians.
On March 31, 2004, Iraqi insurgents ambushed a convoy of four Blackwater military contractors who were conducting a supply drop. The men; Scott Helvenston, Jerko Zovko, Wesley Batalona and Michael Teague were killed by heavy machine gun fire and a grenade, which was thrown into their vehicle. Shortly after, a mob set their bodies on fire and dragged them through the streets, later to be hung on a bridge that crosses the Euphrates River.
Initially, the US local command tried to treat the matter as a police case, directing operations of this type against the executors of the contractors, but, given the pressure of the images broadcast of the death of the Americans, it was arranged that it be treated as a counterinsurgency operation, typically military.
Consequently, the Marine Corps' strategy of foot patrols, less aggressive interventions, humanitarian aid, and close cooperation with local leaders was suspended with the intention of cleansing the city of Fallujah of insurgent groups.
On April 1, Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, the US Army 's second in command of operations in Iraq, promised an overwhelming response: the death of the four Blackwater contractors, saying they would "pacify the city . "
On April 3, the First Expeditionary Force received a written order from Operations Command , decreeing a large-scale offensive operation against insurgents in Fallujah . This order ran counter to the wishes of several Marine Corps commanders, who sought targeted interventions and hits to stop those suspected of killing Blackwater employees.
As military operations began in the city of Fallujah, the fighting intensified, attracting mujahideen warriors from all over Iraq.
The internal political conditions of Iraq, in which the first post-Saddam Iraqi government was established, forced a halt to the military operations carried out in the city. However, the flow of warriors to that city continued.
But, returning to Nayaf....
(in edition...)
Links are good. Cut and paste takes up pages and pages.
Montuno
...como el Son...
Some people used to say that they didn't like to open links because of computer security, and they preferred to go directly, I think?
Anyway, I am using multiple sources to try to give a chronological development, and it would be chaos to have links after each paragraph (but many texts contain words that are links to the original).
If you use one source at a time, the story would be very chaotic for those who do not know the subject. As an example, I give you one of the most consulted pages, being more oriented to the US version and the Blackwaters. As you can see, the exposition is very chaotic for those who do not know anything previously I leave you the link, and I only translate a contribution in Spanish that is missing in English):
https://web.archive.org/web/20091218135143/http://najafproject.iespana.es/project.html
Extracted from the book "And at the end of the war", The adventure of the Spanish troops in Iraq. Luis Miguel Francisco and Lorenzo Silva )
Najaf, Iraq, April 4, 2004, 12 noon. The «Al Ándalus» Base is attacked by the Mahdi's army. More than two hundred Spanish soldiers, mostly belonging to the Mechanized Division, find themselves in a few seconds in the heat of a fierce battle. That day will mean the explosion of a conflict created by some invaders who dismantled a country without being able to foresee how to rebuild it, and in which the Spanish military were involved without anyone in Spain knowing how or many understanding why.
From that day on, the Spanish, who suffer continuous attacks and are the object of innumerable ambushes, have to use weapons again and again to defend their lives against a fanatical and suicidal insurgency that sends children armed with grenade launchers to attack them.
"And in the end, the war" is the moving account of the work of the Spanish troops in the land of Iraq, of what they experienced while the mission lasted. It is a story of war in the so-called Iraqi peace. Luis Miguel Francisco and Lorenzo Silva have managed, based on testimonies and unpublished documents, to fit the pieces together and exhaustively reconstruct a crude and ruthless story, as full of fire, courage and death as it is unknown and silenced. With a fast-paced style, they have managed to show the truth of war through prose that is destined to become one of the classics on military investigations.
" I'm here to get you out of here"
"As soon as they left the perimeter of Camp Golf and took the Lulú Route, they began to feel the bullets hitting the walls of the armored vehicle. Ensign Guisado had contacted the Salvadorans who had not been able to get out on the first trip by radio, he needed everyone to be ready When they reach the intersection with the Annie route, they cross paths with the Salvadoran section that had left shortly before, on foot, to reach their companions.
They are blocked by the Iraqis and they already have several wounded, it is impossible for them to advance. Guisado passes them trusting that on the way back they will continue to maintain that position and can ensure their exit and return to the base.
The Spanish officer orders the column to stop and speaks with the soldiers from El Salvador blocked in the street. The fire that harasses them comes from the same building that they had already hit on the previous trip, and Guisado decides to deploy the section to face the objective. Soon the deployment is verified and the weapons that fire from all corners of the armored vehicles punish the house with force. They manage to silence the enemy and also get the Central Americans to remake their position. The march continues, Salvadorans are informed that they will be recovered once they return from jail.
The intersections are still the worst obstacle, it is there above all that the fire is received, and the shooting targets are repeated in the same places, although now the enemy attacks with less vigor. Suddenly, about two hundred meters from the last intersection, two vehicles appear whose occupants begin to fire shots from inside the passenger compartment. Machine guns fire at them. The aggressors do not stop, they keep firing while they continue marching, further and further away from the Spanish armored vehicles. From the turret of the BMR you can see how the bullets turn the sheet metal of the cars into a sieve,
They are about to reach the last intersection, the most complicated of all. Through the radio, Lieutenant Guisado gives the precise orders and the armored vehicles are placed in line with the aim of once again clearing the buildings in front of the prison by fire. They carry out the maneuver as fast as they can, we must not let the enemy reorganize and manage to ambush them. Next, the Spanish armored vehicles re-enter the prison. There is nothing new, just a few more holes in the most vulnerable area of the BMR. But everything is going smoothly, the road has been made faster than the previous time.
"I'm here to get you out of here"..."
Ed. The Sphere of Books
Anyway, I am using multiple sources to try to give a chronological development, and it would be chaos to have links after each paragraph (but many texts contain words that are links to the original).
If you use one source at a time, the story would be very chaotic for those who do not know the subject. As an example, I give you one of the most consulted pages, being more oriented to the US version and the Blackwaters. As you can see, the exposition is very chaotic for those who do not know anything previously I leave you the link, and I only translate a contribution in Spanish that is missing in English):
https://web.archive.org/web/20091218135143/http://najafproject.iespana.es/project.html
Extracted from the book "And at the end of the war", The adventure of the Spanish troops in Iraq. Luis Miguel Francisco and Lorenzo Silva )
Najaf, Iraq, April 4, 2004, 12 noon. The «Al Ándalus» Base is attacked by the Mahdi's army. More than two hundred Spanish soldiers, mostly belonging to the Mechanized Division, find themselves in a few seconds in the heat of a fierce battle. That day will mean the explosion of a conflict created by some invaders who dismantled a country without being able to foresee how to rebuild it, and in which the Spanish military were involved without anyone in Spain knowing how or many understanding why.
From that day on, the Spanish, who suffer continuous attacks and are the object of innumerable ambushes, have to use weapons again and again to defend their lives against a fanatical and suicidal insurgency that sends children armed with grenade launchers to attack them.
"And in the end, the war" is the moving account of the work of the Spanish troops in the land of Iraq, of what they experienced while the mission lasted. It is a story of war in the so-called Iraqi peace. Luis Miguel Francisco and Lorenzo Silva have managed, based on testimonies and unpublished documents, to fit the pieces together and exhaustively reconstruct a crude and ruthless story, as full of fire, courage and death as it is unknown and silenced. With a fast-paced style, they have managed to show the truth of war through prose that is destined to become one of the classics on military investigations.
" I'm here to get you out of here"
"As soon as they left the perimeter of Camp Golf and took the Lulú Route, they began to feel the bullets hitting the walls of the armored vehicle. Ensign Guisado had contacted the Salvadorans who had not been able to get out on the first trip by radio, he needed everyone to be ready When they reach the intersection with the Annie route, they cross paths with the Salvadoran section that had left shortly before, on foot, to reach their companions.
They are blocked by the Iraqis and they already have several wounded, it is impossible for them to advance. Guisado passes them trusting that on the way back they will continue to maintain that position and can ensure their exit and return to the base.
The Spanish officer orders the column to stop and speaks with the soldiers from El Salvador blocked in the street. The fire that harasses them comes from the same building that they had already hit on the previous trip, and Guisado decides to deploy the section to face the objective. Soon the deployment is verified and the weapons that fire from all corners of the armored vehicles punish the house with force. They manage to silence the enemy and also get the Central Americans to remake their position. The march continues, Salvadorans are informed that they will be recovered once they return from jail.
The intersections are still the worst obstacle, it is there above all that the fire is received, and the shooting targets are repeated in the same places, although now the enemy attacks with less vigor. Suddenly, about two hundred meters from the last intersection, two vehicles appear whose occupants begin to fire shots from inside the passenger compartment. Machine guns fire at them. The aggressors do not stop, they keep firing while they continue marching, further and further away from the Spanish armored vehicles. From the turret of the BMR you can see how the bullets turn the sheet metal of the cars into a sieve,
They are about to reach the last intersection, the most complicated of all. Through the radio, Lieutenant Guisado gives the precise orders and the armored vehicles are placed in line with the aim of once again clearing the buildings in front of the prison by fire. They carry out the maneuver as fast as they can, we must not let the enemy reorganize and manage to ambush them. Next, the Spanish armored vehicles re-enter the prison. There is nothing new, just a few more holes in the most vulnerable area of the BMR. But everything is going smoothly, the road has been made faster than the previous time.
"I'm here to get you out of here"..."
Ed. The Sphere of Books
Three Berries
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Putin is cleaning up the Globalist NWO. You are under the impression the USA/Ukraine are the good guys. Ukraine has been touted as one of the most corrupt countries in the world by the liberal media prior to now telling you to put humanity at risk of nuclear war to uphold this corruption.
Hunters laptop is for real and is the key.
And I see Russia sold their 20% stake in US Uranium 1 that H Clinton sold them when she was SoS. I bet that is coming back in the news via Durham indictments.
ButterflyEffect
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Thanks again. I look forward to your continual evisceration of said Russian propaganda trolls!
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