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[Montuno]

Don't forget the EMPs.Just read that Turkey shutsdown the Bosporus for Russian ships.Turkey can say goodbye to 21th century.

Or also: Putin has lost everything he had gained in his relationship with another autocrat, Edrogan. That again brings Turkey closer to the EU and the US. Turkey can again block Russia's exit to the Mediterranean, which it needs so much and for which it fights so much (this war is also about this), and which it had so frankly on its way to his Syrian bases until now.

But beyond Syria, in addition, Spain no longer allows it to dock in its North African cities... They still have Algeria... but Russia is not interested now in strengthening its relationship with Algeria much, in order not to scare Morocco or destroy its last rapprochement: Morocco is the third piece (along with Spain and the UK) to be able to close the Strait from Tarifa or Gibraltar, and isolate the Mediterranean from the Atlantic.

Add to it that it has lost the very clear support it had from governments with a dangerous autocratic and far-right drift, like that of Orban in Hungary (from Poland and others, I won't even tell you). And this was a "Fifth Column" with which Putin weakened and divided the EU.

 

[Chi13]

Cultural marxism is a Nazi conspiracy, Breivik was a Freemason and odds are that Jordan Peterson has a higher IQ than you.

Cultural Marxism and Nazi should not be in the same sentence.
Jordan Peterson is an idiot. "Clean your room" JP.

 

[Montuno]

1985 has came and went. Still listening to Orwell. That’s funny.

There is a lot of 1984 in this world... The attempt to control the masses (with incendiary speeches live, on telescreen, or twitter... it doesn't matter), the double language, the lie-truth, the post-truth, the hypocrisy of the governments in their alliances and wars...

 

[Montuno]

You're sure as hell right-wing whatever label you denounce.

Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuy...derechista

 

[armedoldhippy]

whatever the heck that means.

that means they watched the clip. means fuck nothing in RE to whether or not they are what they are claimed to be. anyone could watch anything, it does not mean they are what is being claimed. utter bullshit... "hammer of Thor coming down", LOL!

 

[HempKat]

employees at Russian troll farms have to be fluent in English, or other languages of target audiences. Russian could easily be his first language.

I suspect it probably is because he spouts pure Russian Propaganda, not just from this war but also 2014. His whole argument pretty much counts on people here not likely ever having been to Russia or Ukraine and then he just tries to wear people down on the idea that what they believe is the propaganda and his version is so much more accurate because he's been to Ukraine.

 

[HempKat]

We, Homo Sapiens, are Cro-Magnon; is the same.

No not really, there are significant genetic differences between Cro-Magnon and Modern Man and Modern Man can be traced all the way back to Africa in a genetic line that developed separate but parallel to Cro-Magnon. At least that's what several Anthropologists that I respect and trust teach.

 

[HempKat]

You’re the liar, Nazi.

Piss off you one trick pony.

 

[HempKat]

I had to think about it. Going back on the replies, that does seem like a logical conclusion. Rather absurd, your posts are well written. but absurd to the point where I question the conclusion. Makes me think it wasn’t necessarily directed at you. Then it makes more sense.even if logic seems to point in that direction. Fuzzy logic..

Well without Butterfly Effect weighing in as to what his intent was on the post I reacted to and you then defended it's really hard to say what happened. My take on it is he just overlooked who was saying what and lumped me in with all the others who try to muddy the waters when the argument isn't going their way. At this point though it's several days past the date of the posts that started this branch of the discussion and as such is not really worth pursuing further.

 

[HempKat]

"..yOuTuBe.."
"..RuSsEll BrAnD.."..."..cOnSpIrAcY tHeOrY.."
"..bUt, hE's GoT a BeArD.."..."..wHaT aRe ThE sOuRcEs.."
"..LiNks To tHe sOuRcEs.."

Russell Brand just takes the position of the typical conspiracy crowd whether he truly believes it or not. It's what helped to grow his YouTube Channel to over 5 million subscribers and at that level you start making serious money especially when you're able to post multiple videos of the length he typically posts per week. In short he's just giving the audience what they want as it's just good business for him to do so. If he took any other position on his arguments he would lose money and thereby lose subscribers.

 

[HempKat]

the "ignore" function works...sometimes, not often. been bitching about it for months, good luck getting any attention focused on the issue. threads get cluttered up with circular horseshit, not worth wading through. when something has been factually debunked, why should we have to scroll through more of the same bullshit claims while hunting for nuggets of reality? when winnowing wheat from chaff, the chaff gets blown away by the wind, leaving only the wheat. here, you have to root through the chaff over and over hoping to find some wheat. not really worth the trouble...

Exactly why I took a break the past few days.

 

[HempKat]

Oh, I think you know exactly who I was directing that towards

Actually no I didn't know exactly who you were directing it at which is why I thought you were directing it at me. These threads can get confusing at times though and discussions can get unintentionally crossed so I'll just take you at your word and I apologize for misunderstanding your intent.

 

[Brother Nature]

It's almost like the ego can be set free when there's no real consequence...

 

[HempKat]

Ow! That made my head hurt! But seriously, what did you think I said? I'm fairly certain that I either explained something incorrectly or maybe I meant to quote someone else. I'm on board with you and your posts so I'm not really sure. The pages of this thread go by so quickly!

I hear you and I struggle thru the many pages popping up each day. It's easy to get confused especially when people just copy and past large sections of some other page rather then putting their argument in their own words. If I were to properly scrutinize the new pages that pop between the once a day visits I make I would find myself her for 10-12 hours or more and that would have me seriously neglecting aspects of my life that are infinitely more important then trying to convince people to look at things differently when they're completely closed to any other opinion then their own or the one's they quote from dubious web sites that support their particular point of view. If we tried to sort it out it would probably prove out that both of us misunderstood something. Anyway like I told HH in and earlier post this side topic is now 3 or 4 days old and as such not really worth pursuing any more. I'm inclined to write it off as a mutual misunderstanding due to the "Fog of BS"

 

[Creeperpark]

It’s like when my dog barks and I yell at her. It’s just more barking.

That's for sure!

 

[Montuno]

No not really, there are significant genetic differences between Cro-Magnon and Modern Man and Modern Man can be traced all the way back to Africa in a genetic line that developed separate but parallel to Cro-Magnon. At least that's what several Anthropologists that I respect and trust teach.

So check your sources. Cro-Magnon man is just the name given to our species, Homo Sapiens, in prehistoric Europe, because very important remains were found there. They are the Sapiens who interbred with Neanderthals and colonized the Middle East and Europe. There was an old theory (widely used by the racism that divided the first Homo Sapiens into three different sub-branches, and which has been ruled out for a long time...)

 

[h.h.]

I suspect it probably is because he spouts pure Russian Propaganda, not just from this war but also 2014. His whole argument pretty much counts on people here not likely ever having been to Russia or Ukraine and then he just tries to wear people down on the idea that what they believe is the propaganda and his version is so much more accurate because he's been to Ukraine.

Exactly!

 

[h.h.]

Oh man what a shit of protection you have on your device.Nothing wrong with it, only the FSB is now installed on your device

It's btw not bullshit.The video is already send for investigation, in your covid terms to be peer viewed to the ICC, which is stil not recognized by your government.

Investigation? What the f ever. It’s bullshit. No proof. Promoted by someone with multiple outlets. Believed by fools. You know it. You know you’re spreading bullshit. That’s worst than foolish.

 

[mexcurandero420]

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[ButterflyEffect]

It’s like when my dog barks and I yell at her. It’s just more barking.

Can't argue with that. I guess I'm pretty comfortable with my role. I've also noticed that debating them in any fashion is also like yelling at the dog.