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U.K cheese brightside cut ?

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Kaliman said a clone of "origonal" exodus cheese reversed on him creating an m/f seedline strait off the bat..that was a very dubious statement .. id wager he just had some sk1 XY pollen floating about and never managed to mention it..

The odd thing is that I believe genocious matings can yeald m/f seedlines in later generations..but I remember chatting to Kaliman over at Scots forum a few years back and he was just reading the basics post seed release. ..he was on the right track so he might have actually got somewhere with the books he was on by now..he had a good set of book recomendations..
 
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englishrick said:
Kaliman said a clone of "origonal" exodus cheese reversed on him creating an m/f seedline strait off the bat..that was a very dubious statement .. id wager he just had some sk1 XY pollen floating about and never managed to mention it..

The odd thing is that I believe genocious matings can yeald m/f seedlines in later generations..but I remember chatting to Kaliman over at Scots forum a few years back and he was just reading the basics post seed release. ..he was on the right track so he might have actually got somewhere with the books he was on by now..he had a good set of book recomendations..
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Speaking of elevator man, Was the mystery clone the same clone as the one he called the smelly one? Did we ever get to find out what that was?

Im not too sure what genecious means, although after a quick search I think a genecious mating would essentially be making fem seeds correct? Two fems crossed to each other? Sorry if im wrong.

If so I have also heard about fem seed lines producing the occasional male seed. Dont quote me on this but im sure Cannabiogens Peyote Purple was a perfect example of what your talking about. Im sure it was a fem cross / bubba S1, however shes known to throw out the occasional male plant, although it is rare. To over come this im pretty sure CBG just sold the seeds as regs.

Like I say dont quote me on that however im sure i remember reading that years ago, I just did some quick digging around and theres some talk of it in the thread below.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=227403
 
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OneStonedPony said:
Does anyone know ? Because from what I've read it's one or the other. Is that correct ? TIA
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I think (from what I can gather at least) that livers was known as blues too,but that when the seed version by verge got released it has caused some confusion.I have not tried either but I have read testimonials from people who have grown the mr livers clone and the seed version of blues and say they're very similar,but who knows.
 
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Did a bit of a reset of the colors.NIce shot btw and foxtails too.:yes:

Keep on growing :)
 

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TheMan13 said:
Is there any consensus on the UK Cheese cut held by Norstar Genetics out of Santa Rosa, CA?

They entered their cut into the Galaxy last September:
http://galaxy.phylosbioscience.com/variety/f4e2bcda48eb-TSCA/norstar-genetics/uk-cheese
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I would guess it's as good as the weakest link in it's provenance,like any strain which hasn't been grown from a sealed breeder pack of seeds of a known variety,or a hybrid of those, by the person who has sent it for testing. Who knows how many folks in the US bought into the cheese hype back in 2003-5-ish and bought bigbuddhas seeds,and then how many keepers (there were good plants amongst the regular releases) were shared as 'uk cheese' ...I know in the UK there are lots of people growing seed versions of cultivars like blue dream,OG kush,GSC etc. which likely have no similarity to the well known cuttings shared in the US, and it's quite likely that those same people are sharing their best plants as clones labelled as the strain name..somehow real cuts make it over the pond..and anyone looking has a nightmare of a job..and then there's people who will buy seeds of a hybrid based on hype around one of the parent plants,and rename their keeper as that hyped strain..so yeah.only as good as the weakest link in it's provenance,which usually is flawed somewhere.
 
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Chrondiddle O said:
I would guess it's as good as the weakest link in it's provenance,like any strain which hasn't been grown from a sealed breeder pack of seeds of a known variety,or a hybrid of those, by the person who has sent it for testing. Who knows how many folks in the US bought into the cheese hype back in 2003-5-ish and bought bigbuddhas seeds,and then how many keepers (there were good plants amongst the regular releases) were shared as 'uk cheese' ...I know in the UK there are lots of people growing seed versions of cultivars like blue dream,OG kush,GSC etc. which likely have no similarity to the well known cuttings shared in the US, and it's quite likely that those same people are sharing their best plants as clones labelled as the strain name..somehow real cuts make it over the pond..and anyone looking has a nightmare of a job..and then there's people who will buy seeds of a hybrid based on hype around one of the parent plants,and rename their keeper as that hyped strain..so yeah.only as good as the weakest link in it's provenance,which usually is flawed somewhere.
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I hear ya brother, I've been down that elite clone only road many times myself.

I've been watching the Galaxy for a while now and it seems a lot like a dirt road atm. Hopefully in time as the data base increases/broadens it will become a useful tool to us.

Does anyone have access to SC Labs results? I'd like to see a terpene analysis from Norstar Genetics' UK Cheese cut if available.
 
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Brightside has not been seen or heard of since my last pm with him ..he said he was going to amsterdam for possibly the last time as he might need his leg amputated. ..god forbid..

That's the last I know of B...
 
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Brightside has not been seen or heard of since my last pm with him ..he said he was going to amsterdam for possibly the last time as he might need his leg amputated. ..god forbid..

That's the last I know of B...
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Thats not good news, hopefully it didn't come to the worst.
 
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Thanks Englisrick and Chrondiddle O. Sorry, I said Cheesy Jones in my previous post. I had the parents right, but the strain name wrong. What I should have said was Blazing Blues by Sure Fire Seeds. I read on another forum that Blazing Blues is very skunky - cheesy smelling, but has a strong cheese - blueberryish flavor.

Does one cut between the Blues or Livers, have a more cheesy - blueberryish flavor, over the other one ? Or does one smell more skunky - loud, compared to the other ?
 
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I have smoked ugorg blues grown by someone else..it was very similar to a decent phenotype found from the BB blue cheese seeds(the regs which were recalled due to hermy issues),or ugorgs killerskunk,or sweetseeds wild rose..all very similar plants and end products..I've grown all asides the blues seeds from ugorg.
 
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Don't be so easy to claim that sorta thing bro,,,everyone should be giving them a suffix at the min,,dogons, windows,,,etc,,

Big Buddahs blue cheese was pretty good a few years back,,, bb's blue cheese is the seedline everyone here in Manchester grew when they couldn't access the real blues clone ,,, blue cheese is actually pretty similar to the blues clone in the sense it's very cheesey but it's sweeter and more blueberry in its taste,,

The blues is the most berrylike and the sweetest,,,the cheese is the most stinky and the most like sk1 ,,,,the livers is in the middle ,,,not as sweet as blues but just as stinky ,,not as stinky as cheese but sweeter with less berry than blues,,,livers was described and a more "basement" smelling blues,,,
 
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Thanks Englishrick, That will help me narrow it down. Those are going into my walk in closet, as soon as the others come out. Not worried about the smell being loud, I'm med legal in MI.
 
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An American dude just messaged me with some pics looking like EM's smelly one,,,aka the mystery strain,,,he said it was given to him as the livers prior to 2005 ,,, smoke report is very much a match to the livers,,,,,never thought I'd say this but it seems the livers may well have found its way onto the net for real
 
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