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U.K cheese brightside cut ?

Blazeee

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Both windows and dogons cuts look great, im very interested to hear how my cut compares to both of them.

Like ive said before, the person i got her from has held her for over 10 years now and shes the only thing hes been growing since he recieved her.

Judging from the pics that have been posted here i suspect that she may be the same as windows cut although i cant say that for sure, so im very interested to hear how she stands up to the others. Hopefully shes the one youve been looking for.

:tiphat:
 

Cheesegez

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Both windows and dogons cuts look great, im very interested to hear how my cut compares to both of them.

Like ive said before, the person i got her from has held her for over 10 years now and shes the only thing hes been growing since he recieved her.

Judging from the pics that have been posted here i suspect that she may be the same as windows cut although i cant say that for sure, so im very interested to hear how she stands up to the others. Hopefully shes the one youve been looking for.

:tiphat:



me too
 

Spaventa

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that whole thing by cf saying it mutated/evolved/changed over the years adds to the complication - they could ALL be the original! a shapeshifter lol

hmmm- i wonder is that how you concentrate characteristics then? find a descent plant whose dominant traits are good and faults are not as strongly expressed, clone it to fuck for months and see the dominant traits take over more and more??? could it be that easy??

I suppose its acclamation to individual keepers and the feeding and environment they provide the plant. That will make everyones cut slightly different even if it was the same cut to start with. maybe. Im guessing.

My Cannalytics test gives you a DNA profile so we shall see if they are different when i test cannabinoids around August. Ill post if its still relevant.
 
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Piff Rhys Jones

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that whole thing by cf saying it mutated/evolved/changed over the years adds to the complication

Cheese Farmer didn't say that Wing Commander Blue did, and it's bullshit as plants don't mutate or evolve scientifically.

They can get diseases but the genes are the same regardless. :tiphat:

Peace
 

Londinium

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Yeah the plants DNA don't change over time,they can get diseases etc that will make their expression and health a little different but its Exactly the same plant still just not looking its best anymore. One thing to bear in mind also is that Cannabis is an Annual plant that's supposed to last one season(except some tropicals have been known to re-veg themselves a few times or continue fowering fo ages)....But essentially keeping them forever mum after cut after mum isn't particularly "natural" hence not many have really old mums and pops still. Its hard keeping them going with females and even harder often with males without tissue culture and other tech.
One thing I have seen many times is that a cut that is kept going by taking a snip from a plant that's already been flowering for a few weeks often stinks more,smells stronger quicker and often starts blooming quicker too than the same cut from a Vegetative Mum.
Try it if you haven't experienced it.....
But TBH I have seen the same cuts grown by diff people come out different enough for me to not know what to think most of the time :)
 

Spaventa

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This is getting stranger. Dogons and Windows are looking more alike as they veg. For a bit Dogons didn't have red stripes, more reddish in a Nitrogen def way but not stripy like Windows. Now I look and they are clearly going greener with red remaining in stripes just like Windows. They smell the same too now or there not enough difference to tell with a stem rub (and Ive got amazing sense of smell) Not seeing ANY double serrations on the leaves on either. I am getting a lot of singe, double and 3 fingered leaves on Dogons just like Cheesegez picture of his early on. Its in the same system as Windows and Nevilles that are all 5 and 7 fingered so I know its not me causing it. Everything is super healthy though and munching away.
 
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This is getting stranger. Dogons and Windows are looking more alike as they veg. For a bit Dogons didn't have red stripes, more reddish in a Nitrogen def way but not stripy like Windows. Now I look and they are clearly going greener with red remaining in stripes just like Windows. They smell the same too now or there not enough difference to tell with a stem rub (and Ive got amazing sense of smell) Not seeing ANY double serrations on the leaves on either. I am getting a lot of singe, double and 3 fingered leaves on Dogons just like Cheesegez picture of his early on. Its in the same system as Windows and Nevilles that are all 5 and 7 fingered so I know its not me causing it. Everything is super healthy though and munching away.
pix or not happened.
 

Spaventa

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pix or not happened.

first 2 are Dogon second 2 are Window. Dogons on left in 5th picture, Window on right.

edit - fifth is upside down so reverse the L/R
 

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Spaventa

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Well I know for a fact that Hydrangeas that are blue in acid soil turn to red flowers in alkaline. It takes years but they they completely change from blue to red.
 

Piff Rhys Jones

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Depending where a cut is taken (from a mother), it will contain different levels of auxin (hormone) and may express itself completely differently to a cutting taken from a different area of the plant. Once the auxins re balance themselves as the clone establishes itself they'll begin growing more similarly. You'll tend to get different leaf shape, growth structure, node spacing etc.

Try taking a cut from an apical meristem and one from the lowest branch on the mother, and watch how they develop once rooted.

Peace
 

englishrick

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Blues is big in Sheffield on a commercial level ...livers is a super similar clone to the blues but livers is not as sweet ..livers was grown by old time growers and it never realy went commercial like the blues and cheese making it near impossible to smoke never mind acquiring cuttings. unfortunately people use the name "livers" in an extremely frivolous manner ..its like as soon as they see something amazing and it's not blues or cheese they label it as livers ... and so the confusion escalates.... most people be smoking the fruity cheese clone saying "I got livers" ..come up younger!!

if someone is claiming to have a livers clone I would be extremely dubious...everyone gets this one wrong and it's near impossible to verify nowadays...

elevator man had links to the livers but since he's not logged on in years I've not seen or heard of a legit livers sample since.... .. talking about elevator man...what about his mystery clone..anyone remember that shit...the fukin "mystery clone" lol...that sums up this bloody cluster fuk..when ya start naming clones "fukknowswhat" etc...man I miss the elevator dude!!

id say the livers is sorta the middle ground between blues and cheese.. but it's gone with the wind like elevatorman and brightside...

pease get in touch if your reading this EM?
 

OneStonedPony

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@englishrick Last year I bought a pack of Blazing Blues from GLG made by Sure Fire Seeds. It says it's Blues (Livers) x Casey Jones. I haven't cracked them yet, has anyone here grown these ? I wonder what's meant by the Blues and (Livers) being together like that ? Does anyone know ? Because from what I've read it's one or the other. Is that correct ? TIA
 
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englishrick

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It's because some people use the name livers too easily. .the dude who made them probably got a clone of blues or a variation on the cheese profile such as the fruity cheese clone and the dude thinks it's the livers..only thing he knows for sure is its a blues clone or something like the blues ...

The only way to solve this issue is to enter our samples into the galaxy. .we are only then on the map for real..till then we all all just talking for the fun of it
 

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