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Tom Hill Haze
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germany??? ,,,, i didnt see that coming lol
cola
Well-known member
The HT article discussed Cannabis Indica being brought there. No one was discussing anything indigenous whatsoever. And, regarding the oldest fossils, they were found in and around the Tibetan Plateau, about 20 million years ago. Still believe the oldest fossils were found in Germany? That is a wild ass guess - and not at all true:
"The scientists identified fossil pollen as belonging to Cannabis plants if it appeared alongside other types of pollen from a steppe ecosystem — open, treeless habitats where Cannabis is known to thrive. They discovered that the earliest Cannabis fossil pollen placed the genus in northwestern China, and dated to about 19.6 million years ago."
First Cannabis Pollen Found In Tibet 19.6 Million Years Ago
50shadesofgreen
Member
But in UK you have much lower temperatures and constant breeze. Colombia has high humidity and much higher temperatures at most of its areas. Its even harder to grow Indicas there as fungus grow out of nowere. Also they have shorter days as they are much closer to equator. In UK are short days coming too late so mosty there are issues with low temperatures in the autumn I guess so most of the canabis have hard times to fully rippen before its eaten by mold completly or stop rippening due to low temps.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
In all my years i have never seen or heard of a Indica coming from South America mate.
I have seen many Colombians smoked many more and all i ever saw were sativas.
Taima-da
Well-known member
That is true for pollen.
I'm talking macro fossils, but only a couple of million years old, so you're right.
But you did say indicas r not "native"to Colombia, so I thought I'd take you up on that. Point being neither is sativa.
sure ,,not saying uk an columbia same just observation on humidty and everyone knows uk colder,,the plants i showed you would be completly wet in the morning like monsoon wet , they were grown in a valley bottom with near to zero wind most failed but those in pics marched on like soldiers
im not suggesting indica comes from there lol ,,i have no idea either way only that it would be able to grow imo
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Germany is now the birth place of cannabis honestly ?
Cannabis was grown and spread by trade routs were ever ships sailed to you had cannabis being grown to.
cola
Well-known member
Well. You have pollen. Where did the pollen come from, and do plants have leaves? I never mentioned any Cannabis being native or indigenous there. This whole kuckoo arguement is amongst you and yourself. Not easily distracted.
Taima-da
Well-known member
No mate, you equated Colombia to jungle. Sure, some of it is.
Plenty of it is not. That is all
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
It would rot in most places mate you cant escape the heat and humidity unless you go up into the high altitude. Even there it gets real wet.
Fast forward to 2023 yes now you have indicas in Colombia being grown by the Cannabis industry that has set up there because of the legal changes but those are grown in controlled environments.
Also they have a dry season which is very well suited to growing hybrids and indica dominate varieties because the humidity is quite low during those times..
cola
Well-known member
I discussed humidity. I never said all of Columbia was jungle. We were talking about Cannabis Indica not being brought there, or grown there ever, for a variety of reasons. What in gods green earth are you talking about, lol?
Taima-da
Well-known member
That climate map
Includes semi arid and hot arid as well as plenty of high altitude grassland.
Seems like fertile ground for a multitude of variety. Now and in the past. Not saying it happened, just that it could conceivably have, easily
cola
Well-known member
Do you have any historical evidence, other than that laughable HT article, that Cannabis Indica was ever grown in Columbia at this time? I can tell you as a partaker in very early 70's, the Cannabis was Sativa, not Indica, from there.
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I live in the topics and do it myself and have friends in Colombia who grow hybrids so it's doable in the dryer times of year which can last over 6 months depending on the area
Oh im not debating about what is or Waa grown before as I'm sure you are correct with what u say just whether or not it can be done,
I assure you and any doubters who think the tropics is draped in rainforest that there are dry times as well as many dry and arid places in the tropics and the jungles are only a small % of some very diverse areas and microclimates
cola
Well-known member
The HT article is what we have been discussing. That was the reference point for the entire discussion, which involved Cannabis Indica seed already being in Columbia, which they referenced as "Columbian Indica". That simply put, is preposterous. And, as we all know, anything can be grown anywhere now. Not the topic of discussion.
