The Search for Trip Weed

[EnjoyingLife]

I'd rather not mention any examples as others may like the particular strains. I mainly mean too far stable/tame and a little distant from the parents which can narrow your ability to search for the pheno you want. Some may see this as a plus if they're not into breeding and selection, just as some people like fems or autos. I was just pointing out that I'm not a "fanboy" and there are genuine keepers in the GT
It may also be my growing ability, but it's just my opinion of the selection I've grown and sampled
I should point out that older, less blended strains excite me more and some of their newer old strains look quite enticing

" I mainly mean too far stable/tame and a little distant from the parents which can narrow your ability to search for the pheno you want". That makes sense to me.
I was asking to see if any of the strains I have from them meet that criteria =]

 

[ThaiBliss]

i reckon shes pretty much done

...in more ways than one. LOL

Thanks sir. I appreciate the input.

I see it fading fast. I swear I noticed a difference between yesterday and today. I see that tomorrow only has a 78% chance of rain, the lowest percentage in the next 5 days. I'll bring her out into the full uncovered sun tomorrow morning, and chop when the clouds start rolling in.

I found some mold on the reveg plant. My heart is broken. Just a few weeks away from the transition to the dry season.

 

[ThaiBliss]

I cut the volunteer plant just now. When I bumped against it, a pungent lemon smell arose. Strange that I don't remember really ever sensing that. I hope I can find some buds that aren't moldy. I'm going to have to trim it closely. It was worth a go.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

Things are going well with my starts this year. I had more seeds sprout than I needed, so I culled a few of the fatter leaved and less pungent ones. The ones I have left have more of concentrated citrus aroma, and a couple have an added strong spicy smell. Much better than last year. I have more plants, and they are much bigger compared to this time last year.

They were put out months earlier this year. This is causing some dificulties given that it is still raining cats and dogs. They are in dire need of repotting again. They are showing root bound symptoms. I'll cut back the two males I selected for breeding. That one super male gargantuan plant is 4 foot 4 inches tall. I'll cut it in half or less. Some pictures before I cut and repot.

Here were my starts at this date last year. Hahaha.

I think I might be starting to get the hang of it here.

I have to give credit to a few people that helped me out. Two specifically are:

Donald Mallard
Verdant Whisperer

Thanks so much for all your advice.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Good Morning,

It has been more than 6 months since I harvested last year's plant #2. A couple of days ago I gave it a test. I held off because I didn't want to be disapointed if it wasn't very good because it hadn't cured enough. It wasn't anything special, in my opinion. It is a touch better than plant #1, but considering the reputation of the lineage, it's a letdown. I will say that it has a decent nose. It has sharp lemon, a pinch of spice, with a bit of solvent aroma. The good part was that the high lasted a good while, with the high seeming to improve in quality after an hour. It got clearer as the high blossomed.

I still have some seeds to look through. I heard Kangativa looked through 30 plants before finding an exceptional Gypsy Nirvana Thai Stick. I'm not giving up. It seems I'm "in the ballpark" with these genes as far as morphology, terpene bouquet, etc.

One trait I very much appreciate is that it takes these plants 6 months to flower. Ha! It's hard to imagine that I'd ever think that, but it seems the best scenario in this climate. This year's plants are much bigger and earlier than last year's. But now I'm concerned that they are at a stage where they might not grow as large as last year's. I guess I always have to worry about something.

I'm hoping that they fill out the pots that they are in and need to be repotted into the bigger pots I used last year.

The big difference between last year is that the weather was much better for the early growth phase. Here are a couple of pics of this year's flowers on the apical meristems.

Cheers

 

[Knop]

Good Morning,

It has been more than 6 months since I harvested last year's plant #2. A couple of days ago I gave it a test. I held off because I didn't want to be disapointed if it wasn't very good because it hadn't cured enough. It wasn't anything special, in my opinion. It is a touch better than plant #1, but considering the reputation of the lineage, it's a letdown. I will say that it has a decent nose. It has sharp lemon, a pinch of spice, with a bit of solvent aroma. The good part was that the high lasted a good while, with the high seeming to improve in quality after an hour. It got clearer as the high blossomed.

I still have some seeds to look through. I heard Kangativa looked through 30 plants before finding an exceptional Gypsy Nirvana Thai Stick. I'm not giving up. It seems I'm "in the ballpark" with these genes as far as morphology, terpene bouquet, etc.

One trait I very much appreciate is that it takes these plants 6 months to flower. Ha! It's hard to imagine that I'd ever think that, but it seems the best scenario in this climate. This year's plants are much bigger and earlier than last year's. But now I'm concerned that they are at a stage where they might not grow as large as last year's. I guess I always have to worry about something.

I'm hoping that they fill out the pots that they are in and need to be repotted into the bigger pots I used last year.

The big difference between last year is that the weather was much better for the early growth phase. Here are a couple of pics of this year's flowers on the apical meristems.

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Cheers

@MadMac has thaistick gypsy nirvana seeds, it would be cool to see you growing them.

 

[ThaiBliss]

@MadMac has thaistick gypsy nirvana seeds, it would be cool to see you growing them.

I'm working on some tiger tail seeds from Thailand and Burmese seeds from TRSC. If successful, things will stay interesting here.

In the meantime, some friends back in the States are still appreciating my old northern line. They did well this year.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings Searchers,

I've had a development in the terpene profiles of this year's plants. I obsess over these types of details. I'm a strong believer in the "entourage effect". I try to match the high I like with terpene and cannabinoid profiles. I've noticed some things. Maybe the most important is zero or near zero CBD. Interesting cannabinoids are THCV, and CBG. A short list of some of my favorite terpenes are pinene, limonene, menthol, black pepper, other spicy aromas, metalic, and a category I describe as a solvent aroma, i.e. turpentine, kerosene, etc. Hmm... menthol might actually fit into this category. I don't remember all the terpene names for these because I don't have to. My nose remembers the smell.

All this is to report that one of my plants has a menthol aroma. I was rubbing stems and I smelled it. It wasn't a little, it was substancial. I'm overjoyed to have a plant with a lemon menthol spicy aroma. This is different than any other of the more than a dozen other plants from this GNTS x (NH21 x MM) cross I've been testing.

A couple of all time great heirloom strains that have a menthol aroma are S.E. Asian (Thai Laos). My current northern line has it. I know one ancestor that it came from was definately Trainwreck (Thai Mexican Afghani). I specualate that it also came from related terpenes in other outcrosses.

One weed of the mentholated type that particularly stands out was the old school Hawaiian. The ones I had were strongly menthol smelling. I spoke with an elderly Hawaiin gentleman who told tales of the great pre-indica lines growing in Hawaii. They were Laos, Thai, and African Swazi. The old dude, maybe over 80 years at the time a decade ago, got a twinkle in his eye speaking of them.

If that young plant with the menthol aroma is a keeper in terms of potency and quality effect, it will be a great cross to my Oregon line, pictured in the previous post above, that has menthol aromas develop as the buds mature. Judging by what I know right now, I have two plants that I probably should get cuttings from, this menthol GNTS x (NH21 x MM), and the especially pungent male plant of my Oregon line.

Thanks for suffering my obsessive analysis of my grow and search for strong, cerebral, energetic, (trip) weed.

All the Best

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

It's amazing the difference a week can make. I'm also impressed by how much factors other than number of night time hours have an affect in this near equator environment. For instance, changes in weather, fertilizer regiment, etc. are being noticed more. A week ago, I was concerned my plants wouldn't get as big as last year. I boosted the nitrogen in my waterings a touch, and we got a couple of days where it wasn't cloudy starting mid morning. The plants shot up with the extra sun.

Here is a pic of the group:

Here is a pic of an early favorite because of the strength of the aroma, and the spicy smell. All the GNTS x (NH21 x MM) have a citrus bite, so I only mention the extra aromas. This one below is flowering quicker than the others, and is also stacked up a bit. Not really desirable traits in this very wet humid environment. The longer flowering, the more chance that they get big. The more spread out the buds are, the less likely mold forms.

I harvested the wet season plant and 90% of the buds were moldy. Ugh. The buds that didn't touch other buds were 10x less likely to be moldy. Those buds got a dominant minty aroma as they dried. Looking forward to testing those. I digress.

These are pics of an early favorite due to having the skinniest leaves and spicy aroma. But it is also flowering pretty quickly.

This next plant is my current favorite. It has the menthol aroma. Yay! It has the most vigorous growth and the biggest leaves of the females. The flower development is much slower than all the rest. I'm liking this plant! I hope it's branches start growing more.

 

[bibi40]

Greetings Searchers,

I've had a development in the terpene profiles of this year's plants. I obsess over these types of details. I'm a strong believer in the "entourage effect". I try to match the high I like with terpene and cannabinoid profiles. I've noticed some things. Maybe the most important is zero or near zero CBD. Interesting cannabinoids are THCV, and CBG. A short list of some of my favorite terpenes are pinene, limonene, menthol, black pepper, other spicy aromas, metalic, and a category I describe as a solvent aroma, i.e. turpentine, kerosene, etc. Hmm... menthol might actually fit into this category. I don't remember all the terpene names for these because I don't have to. My nose remembers the smell.

All this is to report that one of my plants has a menthol aroma. I was rubbing stems and I smelled it. It wasn't a little, it was substancial. I'm overjoyed to have a plant with a lemon menthol spicy aroma. This is different than any other of the more than a dozen other plants from this GNTS x (NH21 x MM) cross I've been testing.

A couple of all time great heirloom strains that have a menthol aroma are S.E. Asian (Thai Laos). My current northern line has it. I know one ancestor that it came from was definately Trainwreck (Thai Mexican Afghani). I specualate that it also came from related terpenes in other outcrosses.

One weed of the mentholated type that particularly stands out was the old school Hawaiian. The ones I had were strongly menthol smelling. I spoke with an elderly Hawaiin gentleman who told tales of the great pre-indica lines growing in Hawaii. They were Laos, Thai, and African Swazi. The old dude, maybe over 80 years at the time a decade ago, got a twinkle in his eye speaking of them.

If that young plant with the menthol aroma is a keeper in terms of potency and quality effect, it will be a great cross to my Oregon line, pictured in the previous post above, that has menthol aromas develop as the buds mature. Judging by what I know right now, I have two plants that I probably should get cuttings from, this menthol GNTS x (NH21 x MM), and the especially pungent male plant of my Oregon line.

Thanks for suffering my obsessive analysis of my grow and search for strong, cerebral, energetic, (trip) weed.

All the Best

A menthol-eucalyptus thing would be certainly very good !!!

 

[ThaiBliss]

I grew three plants from what I have been working on up north for a very long time. Two of the plants, one male and one female look typical for the line. They stink to high heaven with wonderful and complex aromas. I'm very happy with them. The third plant, a female, is a dwarf, low, wide, little bush with almost no aroma. It looks like a total reject, the first I've seen in a few generations. On the other hand, I often want to see the freak phenos play out. One never knows if it might be a freakishly strong pheno.

The good female is going to be a nice test of the difference when growing in a higher UV environment. It's significantly higher in altitude, and way closer to the equator. Muhahaha!

Here is a picture of the beautiful, pungent female. The male has been chopped back and isn't photogenic, so... no pictures of him. But it's worth noting that he has the full specturm of stanky, dank, dank aromas. The female has a wide spectrum of terpenes, but less mrycene than the male. I can't wait to have bud that I know has excellent quality, and good potency. This line has been very cerebral, happy, energetic, and zilch couch-lock. It's been a while for me.

More than anything, I'm hoping for a good batch of seeds from this baby.

All the Best

 

[ThaiBliss]

A menthol-eucalyptus thing would be certainly very good !!!

By the way, my northern line has that as well. Love that stuff.