they are the ones, yes. i'll send you a pm.
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The Search for Trip Weed
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they are the ones, yes. i'll send you a pm.
It is indeed hard to convey what's happening when smoking. Satva is very good at it, maybe because he meditates (I think he mentioned that somewhere, correct me if I'm wrong).
What you call "a moment of introspection", I think of as the mind being pushed back into one's head, feeling disconnected from the world. Loneliness, claustrophobia, clinical... those are the things I associate with the cold harsh phase. One of my Bangi Haze had it, but it cured into a warmer cuddly high.
Double Thai x Double Jam sounds like a fantastic cross. I might actually do it some day, still got some seeds. Is the weed useless when making seeds? Apart from having seeded weed I mean, which is an inconvenience, but no biggy.
I also have some info to share about UVB. I was very skeptical reptile lights like these would be able to deliver enough UVB to the plants, but I looked up the paper that showed increased THC content when irradiated with UVB and calculated what dose the reptile lights would deliver. Turns out at about 40 cm/16 inches the doses are more or less the same, so not bad at all! Mind you, this depends on specs from the manufacturer, and my grasp on the subject is limited, but I think it should be possible to deliver a meaningful dose with these relatively inexpensive lights. Certainly worth an experiment or two!
Destroyer x Highland Mexican/BB
Destroyer x Highland Mexican/BB
3 phenotypes of [Destroyer x (1973 Highland Guerrero / Blueberry)] + 1 Destroyer ~ 13 weeks, or so........
DS x HMBB
Destroyer (DS)
DS x HMBB ~ DS dominate
DS x HMBB ~ HMBB dominate
DS x HMBB ~ HMBB dominate
Destroyer x Highland Mexican/BB
3 phenotypes of [Destroyer x (1973 Highland Guerrero / Blueberry)] + 1 Destroyer ~ 13 weeks, or so........
DS x HMBB
Destroyer (DS)
DS x HMBB ~ DS dominate
DS x HMBB ~ HMBB dominate
DS x HMBB ~ HMBB dominate
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MostlyMe, I prefer smoking sinsemilla over seeded flowers. in my small setup, making seeds, even on a limited number of lower branches - reduces quality and yield. In this DS x HMMB run, I seeded early ~ 3- 4 weeks of flower, so the seeded buds are all harvested, and the simsemilla flowers are fully ripening.
DS x HMBB f2 (Mother) [DS x HMBB) Thai dominate x (DS x HMBB)] Sweet Legs Legs ~ Thai dominate,
DS x HMBB ~ HMBB dominate mostly sinsemilla,
DS x HMBB ~ DS (Thai) dominate
Pot of Colombians - Colombian Punto Rojo, Colombian Gold x C99
1980 Colombian Gold x 1970 Jamacian Lambsbread
PS> Yes, MostlyMe I've been meditating since 1972. I have to clear my mind and be in the mood to evaluate the high of strains, even take notes if your evaluating subtle differences in phenotypes or f2 selections. Its a bit tedious, but a good job, if you can get it..........Each of the four females shown in flower had individual branches pollinated with pollen from two males, so eight sets of seeds from this run.
In a ideal world, I'd grow out those eight DS x HMBB f2 seed lots and compare the smoke from each female, and keep the one female with my favorite high. <lol> However, I changed the plan and decided to grow a pot of Colombians instead- Via La Colombia~~~~~~~~~
DS x HMBB f2 (Mother) [DS x HMBB) Thai dominate x (DS x HMBB)] Sweet Legs Legs ~ Thai dominate,
DS x HMBB ~ HMBB dominate mostly sinsemilla,
DS x HMBB ~ DS (Thai) dominate
Pot of Colombians - Colombian Punto Rojo, Colombian Gold x C99
1980 Colombian Gold x 1970 Jamacian Lambsbread
PS> Yes, MostlyMe I've been meditating since 1972. I have to clear my mind and be in the mood to evaluate the high of strains, even take notes if your evaluating subtle differences in phenotypes or f2 selections. Its a bit tedious, but a good job, if you can get it..........Each of the four females shown in flower had individual branches pollinated with pollen from two males, so eight sets of seeds from this run.
In a ideal world, I'd grow out those eight DS x HMBB f2 seed lots and compare the smoke from each female, and keep the one female with my favorite high. <lol> However, I changed the plan and decided to grow a pot of Colombians instead- Via La Colombia~~~~~~~~~
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Update: GN Thai Stick A 145 Days Flowering
Update: GN Thai Stick A 145 Days Flowering
This update is long over do. I believe I owed TB an update months ago. Better late than never I suppose. I think the last pics I uploaded were from almost two months ago.
TS-A is a shell of her former self at this point. It doesn't help Ive been sampling her constantly.. She's lost all her larger fan leaves even though I top-dressed some osmocote. Then her smaller fan leaves started falling off, and now the smaller leaves buried within the buds are going down the same path. I bet over time the bud structure would come to much look like Thai Bliss's extremely long flowering Thai he's shared with us before. This lady still has some time to go, so maybe another update in a month or two. Now for some pictures.
Oh, and I also put a revegged TS-B into flowering tonight, along with a clone of TS-A along side its mom. I can't wait to see what comes of the clones in a few months. Ill try to keep this thread updated with them.
Update: GN Thai Stick A 145 Days Flowering
This update is long over do. I believe I owed TB an update months ago. Better late than never I suppose. I think the last pics I uploaded were from almost two months ago.
TS-A is a shell of her former self at this point. It doesn't help Ive been sampling her constantly.. She's lost all her larger fan leaves even though I top-dressed some osmocote. Then her smaller fan leaves started falling off, and now the smaller leaves buried within the buds are going down the same path. I bet over time the bud structure would come to much look like Thai Bliss's extremely long flowering Thai he's shared with us before. This lady still has some time to go, so maybe another update in a month or two. Now for some pictures.
Oh, and I also put a revegged TS-B into flowering tonight, along with a clone of TS-A along side its mom. I can't wait to see what comes of the clones in a few months. Ill try to keep this thread updated with them.
My first contribution to this epic thread. I very much relate to the search for trip weed and I am very grateful to ThaiBliss and others in this thread that have kept this discussion alive. This has been my favorite thread on this site for quite some time.
Some of the most memorable experiences in my life have involved tripping at various levels, fueled by special bags of weed as well as the more conventional methods of LSD and psilocybin. Cannabis has been a part of my life for damn near 30 years and has always been my safe haven. Circumstances have allowed me the opportunity to grow my own the last few years and I am perpetually searching for plants that take me back to those special bags I came across many years ago.
To me trip weed is defined by where it takes my mind and how I get there. Music often fuels the trip for me and my appreciation for the power of music comes directly from experiences with more powerful hallucinogens. The ultimate goal is a subtle rise to a state of euphoria and introspection that can't be achieved in an unaltered state. I have experienced this at various times in my life under a variety of influences.
My closest attempts with homegrown weed has been with MNS The Doors and Ace Zamaldelica. Honorable mentions go to MNS SSH and NL5xHaze and Ace Golden Tiger. I had a 20 week pheno of The Doors that was by far my best attempt. I had multiple experiences with that plant that distorted my perception of time and reality. The buds were oily (as were the Zamaldelica buds), not just sticky. They smelled of sweet lemon. I do have some inadvertent S1 seeds from lower branches on the seed plant that I hope to try out some day.
With all that said the real reason for me getting around to post was that TB popped some seeds of Punto Rojo from CBG. My own personal adventure with Punto Rojo began with germinating 2 seeds last October 1. It wasn't until December before I was able to identify that I had two gigantic plants that had finally showed sex, one male and female. As an indoor grower there was no way I could take the female to harvest. On December 12 I placed a rooted cutting into a 11.5/12.5 cycle. Today, 134 days later, her connection to the life giving soil was severed and she now she bleeds away her life force hanging upside down on a hanger.
This girl had a hard life. She was exposed to LED, MH, and HPS, and back to LED. She was constricted to a 3 gallon smart pot of home brewed soil and never given anything more than water. TB was embarrassed to show some photos of his plants because they were so beat up. I know that feeling. But TB my friend this is what you are getting into with Punto Rojo. I managed to see this wild untamed beast through to the end even with my lazy growing methods. I present to you Punto Rojo, minutes before she was chopped, obviously not touched up.
About a month ago she started showing a few bananas in places that weren't getting much light so she was isolated under LED's to finish. Branches were stout and long. Bud sights created large spears and with the right conditions she could be a gigantic yielder. The overriding scent coming from the plant during handling was citrus tending towards sweet mango.
Here is a more close up shot to show more bud detail. I don't think she was all the way done but it was far as I could take her this round. I may be able to salvage a cutting off this plant to give another run. Time will tell. I am very much looking forward to giving her a smoke test. I'm not looking forward to trimming all that dead leaf tissue.
I also grew a Mangobiche alongside this plant but she just pissed me off. She got the chop today too but she never beefed up and kept putting out white hairs. She wasn't worthy of a picture. i'll still go through the harvest with her but I don't have much hope of getting anything memorable out of that plant.
My last attempt at a long flowering sativa this season is an Ace Purple Haze x Panama. This plant is close to harvest but not quite there. She is remarkable in her vigor in spite of just soil and water. This plant went into 11.5/12.5 as a sprout 125 days ago. She has taken her sweet time getting to this point. There are branches that look like they could go another 6 weeks. This is the top cola of the main stem and is getting pretty close.
These are really crappy pictures. I really need to spend some time on figuring out my camera. Oh well. Here is closeup showing some frost a little lower down on the main stem.
I have high hopes for this plant as well. It doesn't look like it is going to show any purple but it has an awesome pedigree. I have spotted a couple of bananas on this plant as well so it will probably be headed for isolation under LED's to finish. I expect to chop it within the next 2 to 3 weeks.
Well I guess I have added a bit of content to this thread. Sorry for the verbose post but I was feeling some enthusiasm towards my efforts.
Some of the most memorable experiences in my life have involved tripping at various levels, fueled by special bags of weed as well as the more conventional methods of LSD and psilocybin. Cannabis has been a part of my life for damn near 30 years and has always been my safe haven. Circumstances have allowed me the opportunity to grow my own the last few years and I am perpetually searching for plants that take me back to those special bags I came across many years ago.
To me trip weed is defined by where it takes my mind and how I get there. Music often fuels the trip for me and my appreciation for the power of music comes directly from experiences with more powerful hallucinogens. The ultimate goal is a subtle rise to a state of euphoria and introspection that can't be achieved in an unaltered state. I have experienced this at various times in my life under a variety of influences.
My closest attempts with homegrown weed has been with MNS The Doors and Ace Zamaldelica. Honorable mentions go to MNS SSH and NL5xHaze and Ace Golden Tiger. I had a 20 week pheno of The Doors that was by far my best attempt. I had multiple experiences with that plant that distorted my perception of time and reality. The buds were oily (as were the Zamaldelica buds), not just sticky. They smelled of sweet lemon. I do have some inadvertent S1 seeds from lower branches on the seed plant that I hope to try out some day.
With all that said the real reason for me getting around to post was that TB popped some seeds of Punto Rojo from CBG. My own personal adventure with Punto Rojo began with germinating 2 seeds last October 1. It wasn't until December before I was able to identify that I had two gigantic plants that had finally showed sex, one male and female. As an indoor grower there was no way I could take the female to harvest. On December 12 I placed a rooted cutting into a 11.5/12.5 cycle. Today, 134 days later, her connection to the life giving soil was severed and she now she bleeds away her life force hanging upside down on a hanger.
This girl had a hard life. She was exposed to LED, MH, and HPS, and back to LED. She was constricted to a 3 gallon smart pot of home brewed soil and never given anything more than water. TB was embarrassed to show some photos of his plants because they were so beat up. I know that feeling. But TB my friend this is what you are getting into with Punto Rojo. I managed to see this wild untamed beast through to the end even with my lazy growing methods. I present to you Punto Rojo, minutes before she was chopped, obviously not touched up.
About a month ago she started showing a few bananas in places that weren't getting much light so she was isolated under LED's to finish. Branches were stout and long. Bud sights created large spears and with the right conditions she could be a gigantic yielder. The overriding scent coming from the plant during handling was citrus tending towards sweet mango.
Here is a more close up shot to show more bud detail. I don't think she was all the way done but it was far as I could take her this round. I may be able to salvage a cutting off this plant to give another run. Time will tell. I am very much looking forward to giving her a smoke test. I'm not looking forward to trimming all that dead leaf tissue.
I also grew a Mangobiche alongside this plant but she just pissed me off. She got the chop today too but she never beefed up and kept putting out white hairs. She wasn't worthy of a picture. i'll still go through the harvest with her but I don't have much hope of getting anything memorable out of that plant.
My last attempt at a long flowering sativa this season is an Ace Purple Haze x Panama. This plant is close to harvest but not quite there. She is remarkable in her vigor in spite of just soil and water. This plant went into 11.5/12.5 as a sprout 125 days ago. She has taken her sweet time getting to this point. There are branches that look like they could go another 6 weeks. This is the top cola of the main stem and is getting pretty close.
These are really crappy pictures. I really need to spend some time on figuring out my camera. Oh well. Here is closeup showing some frost a little lower down on the main stem.
I have high hopes for this plant as well. It doesn't look like it is going to show any purple but it has an awesome pedigree. I have spotted a couple of bananas on this plant as well so it will probably be headed for isolation under LED's to finish. I expect to chop it within the next 2 to 3 weeks.
Well I guess I have added a bit of content to this thread. Sorry for the verbose post but I was feeling some enthusiasm towards my efforts.
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Hi Peacefrog,
Thanks for your great post. It is posts like yours which makes this thread enjoyable to me.
Congratulations on your Punto Rojo harvest. It looks awesome to me. The search for trip weed and the search for commercially pleasing to the eye are two very different things. In my opinion, you may have found both. The bud in this picture looks awesome! I bet the reds/purples in this bud comes out in the cure. Right now it looks nicely golden. The best Colombian I remember had the whole range of colors, and I think you have it.
I sure hope so!!!!! My heart is going pitter patter over this picture. I have smoked a ton of weed over my lifetime, and certain looks make my heart race and put a smile on my face. This is a good example.
I would not even trim it. Usually, when it look like this, fertilized at the perfect level, the only leaves you want to remove are the ones you can pull out of the bud. Try to avoid handling it too much. Just smoke it, and post the report here, please.
Thanks again,
ThaiBliss
Thanks for your great post. It is posts like yours which makes this thread enjoyable to me.
Congratulations on your Punto Rojo harvest. It looks awesome to me. The search for trip weed and the search for commercially pleasing to the eye are two very different things. In my opinion, you may have found both. The bud in this picture looks awesome! I bet the reds/purples in this bud comes out in the cure. Right now it looks nicely golden. The best Colombian I remember had the whole range of colors, and I think you have it.
I sure hope so!!!!! My heart is going pitter patter over this picture. I have smoked a ton of weed over my lifetime, and certain looks make my heart race and put a smile on my face. This is a good example.
I would not even trim it. Usually, when it look like this, fertilized at the perfect level, the only leaves you want to remove are the ones you can pull out of the bud. Try to avoid handling it too much. Just smoke it, and post the report here, please.
Thanks again,
ThaiBliss
I've been smoking weed way before you ever heard of Black Sabbath. Maybe you should listen to some different tunes when you smoke some Panama,Thai Mexican or Sumatran!!! You may have a MIND adjustment that should lead you to understand what Marijuana is all about.
Jon54
Colombian Punto Rojo (Red Point)
Colombian Punto Rojo (Red Point)
Punto Rojo showing the 4th - 6th nodes. Pre-flowers occurring after the 4th node, with the females thingies - two symmetrical and developing side branches and two newly formed green calyxes. During flowering pistils grow from the green calyxes.
Colombian Punto Rojo (Red Point)
Punto Rojo showing the 4th - 6th nodes. Pre-flowers occurring after the 4th node, with the females thingies - two symmetrical and developing side branches and two newly formed green calyxes. During flowering pistils grow from the green calyxes.
Tabitha V1.1
Tropical NLD x (Tropical NLD x Connoisseur Hybrid)
Tropical NLD x (Tropical NLD x Connoisseur Hybrid)
Short Pheno @ 58 days... I imagine these genotypes will take a minimum of 18 weeks to ripen.
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Greetings,
I felt compelled to repost this text from the Mexican Landraces thread. This is Ahortator repost of Freaky's post:
What I say and what I have said on more than one occasion in this forum ...
When it is attributed to a variety of marijuana a high amount in THC, however the order that it is, that is higher in percentage than so-called standard (3% -4% or so) it's wanting to attribute to that high content of THC the supreme "high".
I have a Mexican friend that in Guadalajara gave me to smoke a joint herb from the Jalisco highland. The Mary He had was full of coconuts (seeds), it was dirty (bad manicured) and when he took the chunks still smoking and smelled the olive of a coconut he had left when rolled the joint.
At the first puff I gave to that rattletrap I felt a rush I did not feel years ago so strong. A second fuff and my head was above the tree under which we were sitting. "Cuate, what 'subidote' (high) I have! Where'd you get this 'carrujo', bastard?" I asked my friend.
He said what I have already said, it was from the Jalisco Highland. There they grow throwing the seeds in the bush at random, where they fall, and watered little and very occasionally, leaving their growth and flowering random to the Nature.
"Damn, bros, she socks the bitch!" I repeated. My friend laughed and said to me: "Is that you in Europe are accustomed to smoke pure, chemical puritita and this herb is natural, Cuate". You have many skunk and much indoor, nutrients, relative humidity equipment, ventilation, lighting, controlled seeds, feminized ... Nothing, it's only pure chemistry. "
"Okay, pure chemistry, but that makes raise the percentage of THC and its psychoactive effect is higher right?" I told him.
"Well, no, bros. That makes the divine seedling lose its natural harmony. That balance between the percentage content of THC, CBD, CBN, CBG and other cannabinoids break only benefit of increased THC, which is the believing that seeks more psychoactive."
"Well, that's what counts right?" I insisted. "It is not, motherfucker. That what really sets is that harmonious whole plant, because although it contains only a percentage of 3% THC, it is combined in perfect balance with other psychoactive plant components," he explained patiently .
Yet he added: "That buzz you say, leave them to you half asleep and your kids stunned in front of the TV or video games, leverages reluctantly activity. These chemical herbs not provide the joy of marijuana grown under natural conditions." .
After four hours we end the evening without ever smoke another rattletrap, chatting animatedly, going to eat abundantly, always with the buzz, the "high" that never seemed to go away. What fucking good jalisqueña grass! And I have proved how right was my friend from Guadalajara.
'Salu2' (Greetings)
I'm not the only one who believes that making the plant as "healthy" as possible is actually detrimental to the full glory of what Cannabis can be.
That being said, I have smoked for a very long time, and I am searching for something very particular which has been lost by the most popular strains and/or techniques used today.
ThaiBliss
I felt compelled to repost this text from the Mexican Landraces thread. This is Ahortator repost of Freaky's post:
What I say and what I have said on more than one occasion in this forum ...
When it is attributed to a variety of marijuana a high amount in THC, however the order that it is, that is higher in percentage than so-called standard (3% -4% or so) it's wanting to attribute to that high content of THC the supreme "high".
I have a Mexican friend that in Guadalajara gave me to smoke a joint herb from the Jalisco highland. The Mary He had was full of coconuts (seeds), it was dirty (bad manicured) and when he took the chunks still smoking and smelled the olive of a coconut he had left when rolled the joint.
At the first puff I gave to that rattletrap I felt a rush I did not feel years ago so strong. A second fuff and my head was above the tree under which we were sitting. "Cuate, what 'subidote' (high) I have! Where'd you get this 'carrujo', bastard?" I asked my friend.
He said what I have already said, it was from the Jalisco Highland. There they grow throwing the seeds in the bush at random, where they fall, and watered little and very occasionally, leaving their growth and flowering random to the Nature.
"Damn, bros, she socks the bitch!" I repeated. My friend laughed and said to me: "Is that you in Europe are accustomed to smoke pure, chemical puritita and this herb is natural, Cuate". You have many skunk and much indoor, nutrients, relative humidity equipment, ventilation, lighting, controlled seeds, feminized ... Nothing, it's only pure chemistry. "
"Okay, pure chemistry, but that makes raise the percentage of THC and its psychoactive effect is higher right?" I told him.
"Well, no, bros. That makes the divine seedling lose its natural harmony. That balance between the percentage content of THC, CBD, CBN, CBG and other cannabinoids break only benefit of increased THC, which is the believing that seeks more psychoactive."
"Well, that's what counts right?" I insisted. "It is not, motherfucker. That what really sets is that harmonious whole plant, because although it contains only a percentage of 3% THC, it is combined in perfect balance with other psychoactive plant components," he explained patiently .
Yet he added: "That buzz you say, leave them to you half asleep and your kids stunned in front of the TV or video games, leverages reluctantly activity. These chemical herbs not provide the joy of marijuana grown under natural conditions." .
After four hours we end the evening without ever smoke another rattletrap, chatting animatedly, going to eat abundantly, always with the buzz, the "high" that never seemed to go away. What fucking good jalisqueña grass! And I have proved how right was my friend from Guadalajara.
'Salu2' (Greetings)
I'm not the only one who believes that making the plant as "healthy" as possible is actually detrimental to the full glory of what Cannabis can be.
That being said, I have smoked for a very long time, and I am searching for something very particular which has been lost by the most popular strains and/or techniques used today.
ThaiBliss
Trippy
Trippy
That being said, I have smoked for a very long time, and I am searching for something very particular which has been lost by the most popular strains and/or techniques used today.
One thing is certain my friend, we are on the same page.
High altitude soil (local) grown Colombian "rainbow" Sativa!
Thanks for the great thread!
red rider
Trippy
That being said, I have smoked for a very long time, and I am searching for something very particular which has been lost by the most popular strains and/or techniques used today.
One thing is certain my friend, we are on the same page.
High altitude soil (local) grown Colombian "rainbow" Sativa!
Thanks for the great thread!
red rider
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That is a nice fat seed sticking out in the HMBB!
Growing conditions are important, but surely genetics are the most important factor in the context of our search. As we've discussed a couple of times already, the introduction of indica genes has created easier plants to grow indoor and has increased yield, but it has had a strong - many in this thread would say detrimental - effect on the high as well. Having smoked a lot of pure sativas lately, I can't think of any hybrid - no matter how much sativa - that succesfully replicated the depth of those highs. I am very happy a select group of people is working to preserve these effects. Hybrids can be very good, but usually it's more of the same.
I have some notes now on Double Thai and Purple Thai Haze, will prepare smoke reports when I get around to it.
Oh btw TB and everyone, Es-ko-bar (hyphens to avoid censorship) recently released a Jalisco IBL, which he describes as trippy. His stuff is legit, you can be sure of that. I really want to order some, but I already have so much more seeds than I can ever grow. Plus I already have some HMxBB. But perhaps someone else here is looking for something interesting to grow? 
