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The Search for Trip Weed
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I smoked Thai Sticks over a period of about 10 years, receiving them about once a year, and they had the very same trippy high over the entire period. They were very consistent. Haze is a poly-hybrid that I don't believe has been line bred. I believe most seed purveyors found a very good one, and created a formula that gave good results, repeating the formula to replenish their stocks. I've don't believe I heard any more than one seller of Haze report that it was line bred for many generations. That exception is Ace Seeds. I could be wrong about others. I only know about what I have chosen to read about, and that is second hand information.
I have found a Bangi Haze, that looks like Indica, that is borderline trippy. It has Nepalese lineage. I also had another Indica looking plant grown outdoors at 42 degrees north that was very trippy, although short in duration.
Trippy experiences from weed is relatively rare these days, but anyone who was smoking back in the 60s and 70s will tell you stories of very trippy weed. It may have been uncommon for most people back then, but some people specialized in it. I smoked very trippy weed several times a year, at least. Sadly, I've only smoked very trippy weed a few times in the last decade.
My search continues,
ThaiBliss
I have found a Bangi Haze, that looks like Indica, that is borderline trippy. It has Nepalese lineage. I also had another Indica looking plant grown outdoors at 42 degrees north that was very trippy, although short in duration.
Trippy experiences from weed is relatively rare these days, but anyone who was smoking back in the 60s and 70s will tell you stories of very trippy weed. It may have been uncommon for most people back then, but some people specialized in it. I smoked very trippy weed several times a year, at least. Sadly, I've only smoked very trippy weed a few times in the last decade.
My search continues,
ThaiBliss
If it is possible for strains to be consistently trippy, where are they? I find it hard to believe they all went extinct and if anything more people are looking for good landraces now than a few decades ago. Granted, the commercial crowd would not be interested, but there are many many people who are. Don't they have access to the internet? 
That's a good question. I don't think it's fair to rule out commercial interest, either - here in Washington State, growers in the legal system are turning out some "heirloom" products - Acapulco Gold, Thai, Chocolate Thai, Darjeeling - and obviously they think there's a market. If they could bring up something with really distinctive effects, you bet someone will give it a try.
Is it possible that we're just older than we were in the '60s and '70s? Old memories that seem more dramatic than they would be today, old brains that aren't as easy to light on fire? Bring us some of this trippy weed, and let us see!
Is it possible that we're just older than we were in the '60s and '70s? Old memories that seem more dramatic than they would be today, old brains that aren't as easy to light on fire? Bring us some of this trippy weed, and let us see!
B
Bob Green
In a lot of ways I agree. It seems like if there was a super trippin herb out there we would have at least one well known elite clone running around causing commotion with the youngsters. Kids these days take a lot of psychedelic drugs. If an herb out there had similar effects it would sell big time. No doubt about it.
On the other hand I have not seen herb with quality I could get in the 90's PNW in today's cannabis. For sure with out a doubt I had connections for world class wees that I just don't see around any more. So I know it's out there.
One of us on the hunt for trip weed will find what we have been searching for. Quite a few people have mentioned Zamaldellica, and Highland Mexican. Incense Haze and a few others sound promising so far.
I think a lot of it has to do with the numbers needed to go through in order to find what we are looking for. Every good breeder I have asked has had a similar response. The best plants in any given line are only found in the top 5% of the lines population.
If we had the capability to pop over 100 seeds of Highland Mexican, Zamaldellica, and the few promising lines we would be on the right track. We really are looking for that one in a thousand type of plant. Problem is that we do not have the recourses to achieve such a goal. Working together looking for clues in different cultivars is a great start and our best bet.
I think the duration of high has a lot to do with the trip factor. The sheer length of time you are high on LSD adds to the intensity. But then out of hundreds of acid trips I have taken every batch was different.
I have a different perspective on the subject due to the fact that LSD was the first drug I had experience with. I started drinking and smoking a bit later on. I have never had weed that felt like acid or schrooms. But I have had trippy herb that compliments the trip of psycodellic drugs. For me to think of taking acid without a nice pile of herb to balance out the effects just seems exhausting.
But cannabis is by far my main drug of choice these days and I am having a blast learning as much as I can about the wonder plant.
The search continues...
As far as seed searching goes I am satisfied with the choices I have made. Now I just need to give a good look at what I have waiting for the world to see.
On a side note it seems like after Jerry Garcia, and Timothy Leary died the quality and vast circulation of LSD declined dramatically. I still remember those sheets with Leary's face on it. The great stuff we would find and trade for during the time of the Dead Heads shit man...
Great times sorely missed!
Any of you PNW guys remember the big ass trip parties out in Rainbow Valley? Blast from the past thinking about that place.
On the other hand I have not seen herb with quality I could get in the 90's PNW in today's cannabis. For sure with out a doubt I had connections for world class wees that I just don't see around any more. So I know it's out there.
One of us on the hunt for trip weed will find what we have been searching for. Quite a few people have mentioned Zamaldellica, and Highland Mexican. Incense Haze and a few others sound promising so far.
I think a lot of it has to do with the numbers needed to go through in order to find what we are looking for. Every good breeder I have asked has had a similar response. The best plants in any given line are only found in the top 5% of the lines population.
If we had the capability to pop over 100 seeds of Highland Mexican, Zamaldellica, and the few promising lines we would be on the right track. We really are looking for that one in a thousand type of plant. Problem is that we do not have the recourses to achieve such a goal. Working together looking for clues in different cultivars is a great start and our best bet.
I think the duration of high has a lot to do with the trip factor. The sheer length of time you are high on LSD adds to the intensity. But then out of hundreds of acid trips I have taken every batch was different.
I have a different perspective on the subject due to the fact that LSD was the first drug I had experience with. I started drinking and smoking a bit later on. I have never had weed that felt like acid or schrooms. But I have had trippy herb that compliments the trip of psycodellic drugs. For me to think of taking acid without a nice pile of herb to balance out the effects just seems exhausting.
But cannabis is by far my main drug of choice these days and I am having a blast learning as much as I can about the wonder plant.
The search continues...
As far as seed searching goes I am satisfied with the choices I have made. Now I just need to give a good look at what I have waiting for the world to see.
On a side note it seems like after Jerry Garcia, and Timothy Leary died the quality and vast circulation of LSD declined dramatically. I still remember those sheets with Leary's face on it. The great stuff we would find and trade for during the time of the Dead Heads shit man...
Great times sorely missed!
Any of you PNW guys remember the big ass trip parties out in Rainbow Valley? Blast from the past thinking about that place.
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Same with me, actually - well, drinking was first, but LSD before weed.
From reading some of the accounts, I wonder if "most like LSD" is going to be the ideal anyone's looking for, or if cannabis in that extreme is going to be kind of a loser that's a poor LSD and a poor weed.
True, true, but that's a pretty recent development related to legalisation, don't you think? When it was illegal growers wouldn't risk jail over a super sativa, but now there's room for them to develop new markets.
Don't say that over here! When I suggested something similar, Thaibliss threw a hissy fit
So even if someone finds trip weed, it will be useless info for anyone who cannot pop lots of seeds as well.
I've become quite pessimistic about my own chances of ever smoking something truly trippy. It is not impossible, but requires lots of luck.
Riddleme
Member
True, true, but that's a pretty recent development related to legalisation, don't you think? When it was illegal growers wouldn't risk jail over a super sativa, but now there's room for them to develop new markets.
Don't say that over here! When I suggested something similar, Thaibliss threw a hissy fit
So even if someone finds trip weed, it will be useless info for anyone who cannot pop lots of seeds as well.
I've become quite pessimistic about my own chances of ever smoking something truly trippy. It is not impossible, but requires lots of luck.
I have to truly thank you ! While you expressed your pessimism, I remain very optimistic. And after reading your last few post I had a thought that I followed up with several hours of research. Found an interesting book ($128) and am now reading chapter 1. This notion has sparked yet another experiment and if it works like I think it could? we will have trippy weed, we'll know in 5 or 6 weeks. If it works I will totally share
Don't say that over here! When I suggested something similar, Thaibliss threw a hissy fit
that was when you were telling people they were ....uhh... not the brightest... for attempting this due to the #s if IIRC. But you did come around ....as the numbers will NEVER get run if we don't start now
I just tripped out with edibles not long ago. I was experimenting with prevapped weed for edibles. I woke up about 2 hours after finishing up and going to bed. Everything was pulsing...the fans rhythm was up inside my head... I got up to take a leak and didn't have to go... everything was shimmering...why am i up?.... holy shit I'm tripping !!!
. (I calculated the next day and I'm eaten >1/8oz.)i know ya'll aren't looking for tripping edibles... but since my first year of smoking I've not "tripped" on weed without eatting it. I have had trippy weed and hash. I think my problem with the term "trip weed" is that when tripping on other substances... i feel sealed off from typical "reality", whereas with trippy weed I still have access to "this reality" if I need it.
the thing about weed in the 60's/70's, was that most of it had no name... we were told it was Mexican... could have just as well come from Colombia or panama...
the weed from that era imo was way better then the weed of today... everything today is a hybrid... 20pct sativa ,80pct indica, or vice-versa, or 50/50.. even the pollen chuckers...I mean breeders have no clue...
since I ain't going into the mountains of Colombia, jamacia, or any other god-forsaken place to hunt for true landraces, i',m left with the greehouses/mr nice/rez'/etc... aka pollen-chuckers... offerings...
Hi Pinkus,
Nice post. Thanks.
The part of your post quoted above, is spot on. While expectations rising from the phrase "trip weed" should be tempered, it is not going to be a like a solid dose of psilocybin or acid, if some doubters where to smoke the old school Thai Stick I once had, they would be stunned by the effect in comparison with what most people are smoking these days.
For those who have had trippy weed: If you think about it, what other substance will get you close to the effects of psilocybin or acid? I say, the finest quality weed that I have smoked throughout my life. I think of it as a relatively easy to titrate hallucinogen.
Siever - The best examples of my idea of what "trip weed" are:
Thai Stick
Sumatran Trip Weed
Jamaican Ganja
Some rare phenos of Neville's Haze (as recently as 10 years since I have encountered it)
The closest recent examples I have had, < 10 years, though probably not pure Sativas:
Zamaldelica
SAGE (my cut)
LA Confidential (some describe as "all Indica", but I doubt it judging by the specific cut I sampled)
Bangi Haze (specific cuts)
Thai Skunk
ThaiBliss
You are most welcome, although I don't know exactly what I did to spark an idea in your head
that was when you were telling people they were ....uhh... not the brightest... for attempting this due to the #s if IIRC. But you did come around ....as the numbers will NEVER get run if we don't start now
I just tripped out with edibles not long ago. I was experimenting with prevapped weed for edibles. I woke up about 2 hours after finishing up and going to bed. Everything was pulsing...the fans rhythm was up inside my head... I got up to take a leak and didn't have to go... everything was shimmering...why am i up?.... holy shit I'm tripping !!!
i know ya'll aren't looking for tripping edibles... but since my first year of smoking I've not "tripped" on weed without eatting it. I have had trippy weed and hash. I think my problem with the term "trip weed" is that when tripping on other substances... i feel sealed off from typical "reality", whereas with trippy weed I still have access to "this reality" if I need it.
True, numbers were part of my argument, but I also brought up tolerance. I suggested trip weed was a result of brain structures not yet having been altered in beginning tokers. Your words on edibles actually support that, because edibles get lots more THC in the brain. It makes sense a seasoned toker like you needs it to trip out, except when you happen to have that rare pheno we are all looking for in this thread. Also, TB has been able to trip on a couple of occasions the past 20 years, and he is not a daily toker. Kinda makes sense IMO.
the thing about weed in the 60's/70's, was that most of it had no name... we were told it was Mexican... could have just as well come from Colombia or panama...
the weed from that era imo was way better then the weed of today... everything today is a hybrid... 20pct sativa ,80pct indica, or vice-versa, or 50/50.. even the pollen chuckers...I mean breeders have no clue...
since I ain't going into the mountains of Colombia, jamacia, or any other god-forsaken place to hunt for true landraces, i',m left with the greehouses/mr nice/rez'/etc... aka pollen-chuckers... offerings...
I don't think it's that bad. There's quite a choice of relatively raw landrace material in seed form available. Unfortunately, none of those are consistently trippy and the question remains if that is even possible. I don't think so, and that's why even if someone manages to grow trip weed and reports it here, it doesn't do me much good personally - because I would have to find that pheno myself. I'll persevere of course, even if not trippy, weed can still be fantastic!
Riddleme
Member
You are most welcome, although I don't know exactly what I did to spark an idea in your head
I asked this question at my website this morning after doing the research. The notion was already in my head, and I'm not sure why your post sparked it but it did LOL
the question that relates,,,
I wonder if anyone can answer what these things all have in common?
Morphine, Cocaine, Nicotine, Digitalis, Quinine, Strychnine, Yohimbine
Don't know if this thread deserves to be filled with riddles. You can easily fill a page with witty one lines, sure, but that doesn't sound very trippy. Riddleme, excuse my bad and unplayful mood, but can you share what you obviously want to share in a reasonably-compact way, without riddles?
Who isn't looking for tripping edibles? Makes a lot of sense, really - lately no one will look at anything that isn't 16-20% THC, but that's probably one of the reasons the weed of olden days is not in the seed catalogues. But for baking, who cares? I'll just use more.
But I'm a little cautious, after an experience back in the late '70s that was a bit psychedelic now that you mention it, but not in the best way, loads of anxiety and such.
B
Bob Green
Do any of you have experience with mushroom tincture? People have told me about soaking mushrooms in ever clear, then putting the liquid into a Pyrex dish and letting it evaporate down. They said it gets rid of the dirty stomach feeling and gives a cleaner high but I have never tried it myself.
When I heard of this I could not help but to make a trip weed/mushroom blended tincture. Seems like you could have quite a few options with this route. You Could make it insane tripping balls potent or nice and mellow depending on your goals. You could adjust if you want more cannabanoids or psilocybe in the mixture. Would be nice to be able to take out hiking, concerts, parties.
I have also read about people using very small mild micro doses of mushrooms to help with anxiety issues. A mild mix of the right clone and mushroom it could even have medical value in the PTSD, anxiety, mental fatigue, depression field. I have read a little about psychiatrist using mushrooms to treat dying patients cope with what is happening.
Just a random thought.
When I heard of this I could not help but to make a trip weed/mushroom blended tincture. Seems like you could have quite a few options with this route. You Could make it insane tripping balls potent or nice and mellow depending on your goals. You could adjust if you want more cannabanoids or psilocybe in the mixture. Would be nice to be able to take out hiking, concerts, parties.
I have also read about people using very small mild micro doses of mushrooms to help with anxiety issues. A mild mix of the right clone and mushroom it could even have medical value in the PTSD, anxiety, mental fatigue, depression field. I have read a little about psychiatrist using mushrooms to treat dying patients cope with what is happening.
Just a random thought.
Riddleme
Member
was not trying to upset anyone, here is where the question came from,,,,,
https://books.google.com/books?id=y...=Lead Compounds from Medicinal Plants&f=false
The OP
BTW the experiments with pre-vapped weed (duff) is using the weed itself, not extracting in butter or coconut oil as that leaves large amounts of crap in between (basically a crap emulsion layer) that gets tossed. Because I know I'm going to cook with it i don't feel the need to drain all the goodness while vapping. win-win
The duff is completely decarboxylated as well.
I need to go spread some love. I'll be back
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