The Search for Trip Weed

[yesum]

Pleasure for One hour; a bottle of wine.
Pleasure for one year, a marriage; but pleasure for a lifetime, a Garden - Chinese Proverb

Gotta remember that one hehe. Not popular with the ladies? hehe

I guess you already caught it TB but I did get a good consistent 'shroom' effect from a single HM xBB. It is a pheno hunt. Not your crazy Thai high at all, more mellow but still out there.

I am trying to get some Sumatran seeds but slow going, we will see.

 

[porn]

Now I'm smoking some 1 month cured Destroyer I think a more mex/col pheno and Purple mex same cure 2 phenos.
Destroyer got a clear, potent and some visual high not speedy its like a kind and gently trippiness on it need a good curing to really notice the real power of this lady. Waves of energy. A cross to impruve more terpenes could be some serius bomb.
Purple Mex have a more calm high, clear but at moments a litle dreamy trippy also got that visual and spiritual also the smells al A+ (from sour catpiss to my keeper eucaliptus strawberry.

 

[Gr33nSanta]

I never understand how a cure can modify the high so much, the taste and smell can change and the way the terpenes interact with cannabinoids will change slightly but the cannabinoids remain unchanged, how can the cure increase potency^? I know that tangwena and many other people claim that cob curing increase potency and I can never understand why, I have never noticed an increase in potency with regular jar curing methods.

 

[Homebrewer]

I never understand how a cure can modify the high so much, the taste and smell can change and the way the terpenes interact with cannabinoids will change slightly but the cannabinoids remain unchanged, how can the cure increase potency^? I know that tangwena and many other people claim that cob curing increase potency and I can never understand why, I have never noticed an increase in potency with regular jar curing methods.

I think some cannabinoids go from non-psychoactive to psychoactive during the curing period. I've always noticed not only an increase in potency after the cure but also a change in the buzz. Personally I give everything at least 30 days of curing before I pass any judgement on a newer variety in the garden.

 

[Gr33nSanta]

I ve have not had the luxury of doing long cures very often. I am hooked on fresh weed, something about it like I think it has to do with me never being content so I am always wanting the new. I have no patience it seems.

I do have my Les Fleurs Bleues ( a high cbd blueberry muffin smelling plant) that cures to a nice anise smell, but it general I find the longer I wait the more the flowers go from very loud to loud and then not so loud.

I like very loud fresh terps. I hear they might not be good for you though...

I do want to start curing properly, but it's tough nowadays, if you can move, you move!

 

[pinkus]

I have not yet popped my Highland Mexican x Blueberry, but from the consistent reports it appears to have trippiness to it.

ThaiBliss

Not much trippiness in the one F1 girl I ran several times, a bit in the F2s a friend ran outside, and other offspring from the father of the F2s are very promising. I think it's likely in there, somewhere, but maybe not at the surface of the F1 generation.

 

[igrowone]

I never understand how a cure can modify the high so much, the taste and smell can change and the way the terpenes interact with cannabinoids will change slightly but the cannabinoids remain unchanged, how can the cure increase potency^? I know that tangwena and many other people claim that cob curing increase potency and I can never understand why, I have never noticed an increase in potency with regular jar curing methods.

i can't give you an answer, just a recent experience
most hybrids i've grown do ok in a cure, effect changes some, maybe it's imagination
however, i had recent grow of some old afghan seeds, the crappy mazar freebies that got little respect
the cure made one hell of a change potency wise and the feel too
much different smoke after 6 months in the jar

 

[hard rain]

I never understand how a cure can modify the high so much, the taste and smell can change and the way the terpenes interact with cannabinoids will change slightly but the cannabinoids remain unchanged, how can the cure increase potency^? I know that tangwena and many other people claim that cob curing increase potency and I can never understand why, I have never noticed an increase in potency with regular jar curing methods.

I can't give you an answer either. Several varieties of pure sativa I have grown have been completely different after a long cure. Gone from very disappointing to outstanding.
Other varieties I have grown seem to have little difference with a long cure.
Very variety dependent.

 

[herbgreen]

Cure windows

Go too long it degrades...dont go long enough it hasnt let go of the chlorophyll

Sometimes it just needs a few months longer than you think

Ive had some super potent stuff that after a few months actually like six months lost a little of the intensity but gained complexity and smoke-ablity... It was way better

some times stuff is way too intense and crazy stoney...i put it away and forget about it then find it one day and like hey this is good!

i think uncured bud is straight up bad news...and it can make people sick

It needs a lot of cure to bring out the good in it

They all have a window like a harvest window...but you would be amazed how far out that window can be...sometimes this stuff needs to mellow

Then it can really be enjoyed...

 

[ThaiBliss]

Not much trippiness in the one F1 girl I ran several times, a bit in the F2s a friend ran outside, and other offspring from the father of the F2s are very promising. I think it's likely in there, somewhere, but maybe not at the surface of the F1 generation.

I was lucky to be gifted some F2s. Unfortunately, I think they are going to be indoor only. Once I get the SAGE integrated into my outdoor genetics, I'll turn my sights on testing some MHBB and Zamaldelicas indoors.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Cure Windows

SAGE is good anytime. SAGE after a 9 month cure is special. I hoard it like it is pure gold. The terpene profile changes drastically. The pine/turpentine aroma blossoms. Same with the Wicked Weed. I swear the menthol starts out barely noticeable, and becomes overpowering after 6 months. I know I have something good when I think "precious... precious" and clutch it in my greedy hands.

 

[herbgreen]

S.a.g.e. is one that I like alot but it seems to have a very strange time shift involved

Its like all of a sudden ...where am I? what's goin on?? what time is it???

It can have a very strange dream state trip that eventually made it a somewhat impractical smoke

The scene in cheech and chong up in smoke comes to mind where cheech asks how he's driving and chong says 'I think were parked man'

Its like that....I end up gripping my chair wondering if I was supposed to be someplace or do something asking myself what time is it....And is that am or pm?

Need to explore again.... I wonder if its the same from years ago since Adam D moved out of holland or does he work on it in Colorado?

 

[Tangwena]

Cure Windows

SAGE is good anytime. SAGE after a 9 month cure is special. I hoard it like it is pure gold. The terpene profile changes drastically. The pine/turpentine aroma blossoms. Same with the Wicked Weed. I swear the menthol starts out barely noticeable, and becomes overpowering after 6 months. I know I have something good when I think "precious... precious" and clutch it in my greedy hands.

If I ever come to a town near you I hope I can stick my nose in those jars. The way you describe the smell says you have deep attachment to them. They sound amazing.
I think there cant be many places in the world where you could have such a vast array of aromas in one place. Its almost worth doing tours of that on its own.

 

[ThaiBliss]

S.a.g.e. is one that I like alot but it seems to have a very strange time shift involved

Its like all of a sudden ...where am I? what's goin on?? what time is it???

It can have a very strange dream state trip that eventually made it a somewhat impractical smoke

The scene in cheech and chong up in smoke comes to mind where cheech asks how he's driving and chong says 'I think were parked man'

Its like that....I end up gripping my chair wondering if I was supposed to be someplace or do something asking myself what time is it....And is that am or pm?

Need to explore again.... I wonder if its the same from years ago since Adam D moved out of holland or does he work on it in Colorado?

TRIP WEED!!!!

Sounds like you had a good one. Lucky you. I tell everyone that it seems like just decent weed until about an hour in. Then it hits me. It actually clears up and I have a moment of profound awareness. For me, at that moment, I shed my worries. It's like I'm home, where I want to be. This is what I'm searching for. Just take a breath, say to yourself in that moment, everything is cool, and enjoy the vision of the true world. Trip weed is not your everyday smoking weed. Nothing that would qualify for our search in this thread is. Well... maybe everyday when I'm retired.

I friend of mine told me about being on SAGE in a theater. He was enjoying the ornate ceiling artwork. I swear some art is created just for these moments, just for SAGE and that moment of clarity.

Next time I smoke, it is going to be SAGE hash!


T.B.

 

[ThaiBliss]

If I ever come to a town near you I hope I can stick my nose in those jars. The way you describe the smell says you have deep attachment to them. They sound amazing.
I think there cant be many places in the world where you could have such a vast array of aromas in one place. Its almost worth doing tours of that on its own.

Tangwena - You are welcome here anytime. The laws are tightening up here in some ways. One way that it is loosening, I think, is the ability to give people tours of their commercial operations. Hash and Skunk weed are predominate, but you can drive down the road and smell all types of gardens. This place is going to explode with activity if interstate commerce opens up. I wouldn't mind visiting a southern state like Arizona. There might be more interesting varieties down south. Check out Beanz's posts.

 

[Californee]

hey thaibliss,

After becoming more familiar with terpenes I have discovered that the sage cut I tried was rich in the terpene terpinaline. The cut I tried had a white woody smell that opened to a fragrant perfumed tickle and the slightest hint of camphor and a light pine smell bridged all the way throughout especially between the fragrant tickle and enveloping the camphor. The "fragrant perfumed tickle" is predominately due to terpinaline.

You might want to find a terpinaline rich strain to work into your breedings. most I know are heavily clouded by other terps but I have come across one strain that is heavily terpinaline dominant called dragon fly bred by Hermosa seeds. You might look at the parentage and scoff as its indica dominant but its got the terps man. I tried it crossed to cookies and it made the cross to cookies a clear headed functional strain.

 

[bestothebest]

Is the SAGE of today still good if I wanted to get some?

 

[led05]

Pleasure for One hour; a bottle of wine.
Pleasure for one year, a marriage; but pleasure for a lifetime, a Garden - Chinese Proverb

Gotta remember that one hehe. Not popular with the ladies? hehe

I guess you already caught it TB but I did get a good consistent 'shroom' effect from a single HM xBB. It is a pheno hunt. Not your crazy Thai high at all, more mellow but still out there.

I am trying to get some Sumatran seeds but slow going, we will see.

Haha - funny enough....

it was a quote on a farmers almanac calendar from a couple of weeks ago. The calendar was purchased by my wife and she actually said you have to look at today's calendar

TB, great post on top 3/6 and I know we've been around the merry go round but as you so rightly noted things do change.

Great thread man, love it every-time I pop in !

 

[LowFalutin]

first sageF2 comes down at 73dys of 11/13.
she was showing amber, quite far ahead of her sisters.
she was the greenest sageF2 i posted here previously,
and like the few other green-leaners,
is longer internodal length'd than the purples.

frosty underneath as well...

kicking off her re-veg with a couple of bottom buds.

cheers

 

[ThaiBliss]

hey thaibliss,

After becoming more familiar with terpenes I have discovered that the sage cut I tried was rich in the terpene terpinaline. The cut I tried had a white woody smell that opened to a fragrant perfumed tickle and the slightest hint of camphor and a light pine smell bridged all the way throughout especially between the fragrant tickle and enveloping the camphor. The "fragrant perfumed tickle" is predominately due to terpinaline.

You might want to find a terpinaline rich strain to work into your breedings...

Californee - Thanks for the strain recommendation. Great minds think alike, except I already have a strain tested and selected, Nanan Bouclou. I love it! I think it also has terpinaline in it. It is going to be a great match.

Is the SAGE of today still good if I wanted to get some?

I have no idea. I got a cut that someone else had selected and has been passed around in these parts.

Haha - funny enough....

it was a quote on a farmers almanac calendar from a couple of weeks ago. The calendar was purchased by my wife and she actually said you have to look at today's calendar

TB, great post on top 3/6 and I know we've been around the merry go round but as you so rightly noted things do change.

Great thread man, love it every-time I pop in !

Thanks for the good vibes. I love that quote also. LOL

first sageF2 comes down at 73dys of 11/13.
she was showing amber, quite far ahead of her sisters.
she was the greenest sageF2 i posted here previously,
and like the few other green-leaners,
is longer internodal length'd than the purples.
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frosty underneath as well...
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kicking off her re-veg with a couple of bottom buds.

cheers

Thanks for posting Low...
I hope you find a great one. I had a green pheno once. It was also very good. I got rid of it for something I thought was stronger, and it was not long before I regretted it. You might want to remember that the Mexican that was the original strain that inspired SAGE and Big Sur Holy Weed was Zacatecas Purple. It left people feeling like they were "in the presence of God". Then again, SAGE is rumored to have some Haze in it also, as well as Big Sur Holy Weed. I don't know where the magic comes from, but it is clearly in the SAGE line. It is usually about the particular pheno, as always.