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Colombian Red
Colombian Red
Hey Thule, who wrote, "So is Punto Rojo the same as Colombian Red",
Based on the high, I don't think so. In America, in the early 1970's, Colombians would have been called Colombian, plus whatever the color of the flowers were in the bag if they were Red - Colombian Red,
In Punto Rojo the maroon (grown by others) looks maroon,
From my experience, there is Red Dot / Red Point, Green with red pistils and, or red calyx tips, Red Colombian, and Red Hair. Also a Mexican Red Hair. There is, was Highland Red Colombian and lowland or jungle Red Colombian. I'm still looking for a good representation of Cannabiogen Red Point pheno-type, green calyxes with red tips.
Punto Rojo - Green calyx with red tips, sort of......
1972 Panama Red and 1975 Red Colombian both were strong, dense and had some stone in the high. 1972 Panama Red was wild and wacky. For whatever reason Cannabiogen's Red Punto Rojo has a cleaner high, than the reputation of mid-1970's Red Colombian. I haven't tried Mangobiche. For whatever reason, I can't remember many references to Red Colombian in the posts of SamS, bigherb or Charlie Garcia.
Red Hair
Excerpts from the article posted referencing Red Colombians.
"The renowned Red Dot is one of the best known worldwide American red lines, is an ecotype that also spread in Panama, Peru and other regions of South America where formerly high-quality red lines were grown.
Americans know it as Colombian Red Hair, by the reddish orange color that acquire the pistils of female flowers to stop being fertile and shrivel. Although we must consider that are popular names lax when classifying ecotypes or landraces of a species being preferred use called the region or locality from which each.
This own variety of mountain regions is possibly related with the also famous Panama Red (red Panama) or even some old red Mexican or Caribbean, it is possible that all these countries share lines or routes of introduction of the plant as we talked about earlier. However, the exact origin of all these American red lines still remains a mystery, as if they came originally from Brazil, the Caribbean, Mexico, etc.
In general all these línes have different but very particular scents, ranging from the spicy, balsamic (pepper, resins, wood) to the fruity (tropical fruits, citrus, etc.) due to its particular terpenes. They are also lines very euphoric and psychoactive effects. Best Red Spot are reputed to be an even slightly lysergic; producing slight visual or auditory distortions. Sometimes the effect is a pattern of sine wave, with ups and downs in their effect and attacks hilarity as many other good native of tropical Cannabis.
The Mangobiche is another well-known red line, named for its fruity scents and fruit acids reminiscent of green mango, tropical fruits or even peaches. Mango "biche" is the name given local green or mango little mature, which is usually consumed with salt and lime in many countries in the region. This fruit is very sour and fragrant smell, which resemble some Mangobiches in its similar flavor, hence its name.
Along with the Red Spot, Mangobiche is possibly one of the most cultivated and spread in the country's mountains varieties. Also has a very long flowering, but its fruity bouquet make it one of the most appreciated.
There is another small group of cultivars differentiated from more southern regions, in the region of Corinth and the Valle del Cauca, another town with quite a reputation for producing quality marijuana. It is also predominantly red lines, although not as late as the Red Spot, possibly because it is a large production area where there has been some hybridization. Traditional lines are very mixed and diluted in a lot of varieties whose origin is difficult to trace with certainty".
Colombian Red
Hey Thule, who wrote, "So is Punto Rojo the same as Colombian Red",
Based on the high, I don't think so. In America, in the early 1970's, Colombians would have been called Colombian, plus whatever the color of the flowers were in the bag if they were Red - Colombian Red,
In Punto Rojo the maroon (grown by others) looks maroon,
From my experience, there is Red Dot / Red Point, Green with red pistils and, or red calyx tips, Red Colombian, and Red Hair. Also a Mexican Red Hair. There is, was Highland Red Colombian and lowland or jungle Red Colombian. I'm still looking for a good representation of Cannabiogen Red Point pheno-type, green calyxes with red tips.
Punto Rojo - Green calyx with red tips, sort of......
1972 Panama Red and 1975 Red Colombian both were strong, dense and had some stone in the high. 1972 Panama Red was wild and wacky. For whatever reason Cannabiogen's Red Punto Rojo has a cleaner high, than the reputation of mid-1970's Red Colombian. I haven't tried Mangobiche. For whatever reason, I can't remember many references to Red Colombian in the posts of SamS, bigherb or Charlie Garcia.
Red Hair
Excerpts from the article posted referencing Red Colombians.
"The renowned Red Dot is one of the best known worldwide American red lines, is an ecotype that also spread in Panama, Peru and other regions of South America where formerly high-quality red lines were grown.
Americans know it as Colombian Red Hair, by the reddish orange color that acquire the pistils of female flowers to stop being fertile and shrivel. Although we must consider that are popular names lax when classifying ecotypes or landraces of a species being preferred use called the region or locality from which each.
This own variety of mountain regions is possibly related with the also famous Panama Red (red Panama) or even some old red Mexican or Caribbean, it is possible that all these countries share lines or routes of introduction of the plant as we talked about earlier. However, the exact origin of all these American red lines still remains a mystery, as if they came originally from Brazil, the Caribbean, Mexico, etc.
In general all these línes have different but very particular scents, ranging from the spicy, balsamic (pepper, resins, wood) to the fruity (tropical fruits, citrus, etc.) due to its particular terpenes. They are also lines very euphoric and psychoactive effects. Best Red Spot are reputed to be an even slightly lysergic; producing slight visual or auditory distortions. Sometimes the effect is a pattern of sine wave, with ups and downs in their effect and attacks hilarity as many other good native of tropical Cannabis.
The Mangobiche is another well-known red line, named for its fruity scents and fruit acids reminiscent of green mango, tropical fruits or even peaches. Mango "biche" is the name given local green or mango little mature, which is usually consumed with salt and lime in many countries in the region. This fruit is very sour and fragrant smell, which resemble some Mangobiches in its similar flavor, hence its name.
Along with the Red Spot, Mangobiche is possibly one of the most cultivated and spread in the country's mountains varieties. Also has a very long flowering, but its fruity bouquet make it one of the most appreciated.
There is another small group of cultivars differentiated from more southern regions, in the region of Corinth and the Valle del Cauca, another town with quite a reputation for producing quality marijuana. It is also predominantly red lines, although not as late as the Red Spot, possibly because it is a large production area where there has been some hybridization. Traditional lines are very mixed and diluted in a lot of varieties whose origin is difficult to trace with certainty".
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I appreciate your kind words and understanding . I also appreciate you and other OT's who share there past experience with Sativas aswell as current search .
You are the only member I can recall speaking of OHaze from NYC period add to that frankincense / incense traits . I appreciate all your contributions
In my Haze thread If I recall there are CBG Punto rojo pics from our Latin brothers at another site , amazing true definition of pure sativa . A picture from a page of the story I was told some big flowers with amazing colors . I also make the comparison of Nevilles Haze NYC outdoor to Punto rojo in the finished flower , IMO I can see it in there
I miss some of the OT members who are no longer posting but I'm thankful to those of you here . I recall an OT Bluebeard who once said he didn't see Thai in any of the Haze he grew that it was all lumbo . He reminded us that some True Colombians are Equatorial and even longer flowering than Thai's , a true OG that was a wealth . He knew what he was talking about before the true origins were told
Much respect for a great thread Thaibliss
I appreciate everyone's contributions in this thread I hope you all find what your looking for
1luvbigherb
In the article it is mentioned a variety called Blue Sky Blonde, supposedly from Thailand seeds, grown in Santa Marta's mountains by the Arahuaco.
First time ever I hear of this name, specially connected to Santa Marta, it is very interesting, since it is supposed to be more potent than most Colombian varieties...
I wonder for how long they grew that variety for though, since when I was there with the Kogis and Arahuacos, did not hear of it even though I asked about cannabis a lot...they don't speak Spanish that well for the most part btw, these are very serious people. When they greet each other, they exchange coca leaves... I wonder if I'll be able to visit again in the future...
First time ever I hear of this name, specially connected to Santa Marta, it is very interesting, since it is supposed to be more potent than most Colombian varieties...
I wonder for how long they grew that variety for though, since when I was there with the Kogis and Arahuacos, did not hear of it even though I asked about cannabis a lot...they don't speak Spanish that well for the most part btw, these are very serious people. When they greet each other, they exchange coca leaves... I wonder if I'll be able to visit again in the future...
Haze started out being pure Colombian, but imo the Original Haze that we have today is no longer very much related to punto rojo.
Let's assume the brothers began crossing different colombians, then some mexican (acapulco gold?) was added and towards the end Kerala and Thai. The last two additions should be the most prominent ones, and the earlier Colombian stuff very diluted (25-50% max) According to SamS one of the brothers decided not to use the Thai, but did use the Kerala. One might have used both.
That would make Original Haze largely Indian, and based on the looks I believe this to be true. Nobody ever reports an Indian pheno though
all they think they're seeing is Colombian, Mexican or Thai phenotypes. From what I've gathered, Haze is not Thai-like at all, it might contain very little, if any Thai. Also the purple or maroon Colombian phenotype is very rare (if not absent?) in Original Haze. Most of the plants that I've seen and grown look indistinguishable from Indian sativas, they have a very basic green sativa look.
Greetings,
Very interesting discussion. Thanks for all the posts.
Since the subject of Thai has come up, I want to reiterate that the pot I have grown most similar to the Thai Sticks I smoked while growing up was a Neville's Haze individual. That high is unmistakable. However, I don't believe I have ever smoked Kerala, and I smoked Sumatran that had the same high.
ThaiBliss
Very interesting discussion. Thanks for all the posts.
Since the subject of Thai has come up, I want to reiterate that the pot I have grown most similar to the Thai Sticks I smoked while growing up was a Neville's Haze individual. That high is unmistakable. However, I don't believe I have ever smoked Kerala, and I smoked Sumatran that had the same high.
ThaiBliss
Haze started out being pure Colombian, but imo the Original Haze that we have today is no longer very much related to punto rojo.
Let's assume the brothers began crossing different colombians, then some mexican (acapulco gold?) was added and towards the end Kerala and Thai. The last two additions should be the most prominent ones, and the earlier Colombian stuff very diluted (25-50% max) According to SamS one of the brothers decided not to use the Thai, but did use the Kerala. One might have used both.
That would make Original Haze largely Indian, and based on the looks I believe this to be true. Nobody ever reports an Indian pheno though
Also the purple or maroon Colombian phenotype is very rare (if not absent?) in Original Haze. Most of the plants that I've seen and grown look indistinguishable from Indian sativas, they have a very basic green sativa look.
If you Recall my True origins of Haze , Punto Rojo is Santa Cruz OHaze this was created by G anything after that was a OHaze hybrid . The story I was told from my source had nothing to do with Thai or S.Indian .Interesting to note in recent years Sams no longer mentions Mexican
Actually it contains very little Thai and even less S.Indian . Old news it's all hear
I've posted this quote from SAMs before if I recall just recent . The original post is in my Haze thread it's abit longer . I copied most of it in regards to lineage
G`day TB
Origins of the species stuff .
Colombia and the Caribbean were major trading spots in the 1800s .
Lotsa traffic from West Africa .
A lot of indentured workers came from India to the Caribbean .
There was the Portuguese influx into Brazil and again lots of West African links with their colonies there .
When the Panama Canal was built there was a mingling of cultures .
Afterwards the domestic consumption of herb rose .
Then there is the story of seed brought from Kallimantan Indonesia [ Borneo region ] for medicinal crops . By a US Pharma Co . circa 1930 . USA Prohibition in mid to late 30s put an end to it .
That link from Thule tells a lot about different possible origins of Colombian genes .
Thanks for sharin
EB .
i forgot to say its real nice & trippy & it took on the trates of the twilight 8-9 weeks .
i cant smoke verry much because it gives me anxity atacks, i still have that cut tho i dont flower it much.
Greetings,
A few weeks back I ran into a friend I have not seen in more than 15 years. It turns out that he is still growing some cuttings I gave him. One of them he describes as "The Wire". I'm assuming it is from the electric eel feeling it gives him. I believe this is a great great great grandparent of my current generation of the Dank Dank line. I think it is possible that it is from a time before I crossed the line to a honey oil tasting indica plant. I believe I have told this story a few times in this thread. I regretted doing the cross because of the damper it put on the effect that I like, though after I made the cross is when people gave it the name "The Dank Dank". I have to admit it became VERY popular with my friends. Before the cross I was calling it Wicked Weed for its devastating effect.
I have been looking through a great many of the Dank Dank line and I have been finding some that are quite good. I have saved the best in a cutting, and I will have many more of them to test this fall. Finding this ancestor could be highly valuable in my breeding. After finally sorting out and culling so many that show any trace of couch-lock traits, I believe I now have genetics from before the introduction of hash plant genes.
I consider this an incredible breakthrough moment.
Here is a picture of the Wicked Weed leaf:
This is a moment when sharing my best genetics has paid incredible dividends. I cannot express how valuable this is to me, and how happy I am. Sharing genetics prevents strains from dying out!
By the way, I think this newly re-acquired cutting is the result of a few generations of line breeding after I crossed a strain with Thai in it to a strain named Seeing God. I put a note in my signature some time ago hoping I'd find Seeing God again. Not only was it very potent, it is in the top 5 strongest of all strains I have ever grown, it also ripened outdoors where I live the second week of September. It is probably one of the top 2 strains that I would most want back of all the strains in my life that I let slip through my fingers. This is because of how highly valuable a potent and early strain would be to me, and probably to a lot of other people. This is one of the reasons that I actually gave the effort to do some line breeding.
All the Best,
ThaiBliss
A few weeks back I ran into a friend I have not seen in more than 15 years. It turns out that he is still growing some cuttings I gave him. One of them he describes as "The Wire". I'm assuming it is from the electric eel feeling it gives him. I believe this is a great great great grandparent of my current generation of the Dank Dank line. I think it is possible that it is from a time before I crossed the line to a honey oil tasting indica plant. I believe I have told this story a few times in this thread. I regretted doing the cross because of the damper it put on the effect that I like, though after I made the cross is when people gave it the name "The Dank Dank". I have to admit it became VERY popular with my friends. Before the cross I was calling it Wicked Weed for its devastating effect.
I have been looking through a great many of the Dank Dank line and I have been finding some that are quite good. I have saved the best in a cutting, and I will have many more of them to test this fall. Finding this ancestor could be highly valuable in my breeding. After finally sorting out and culling so many that show any trace of couch-lock traits, I believe I now have genetics from before the introduction of hash plant genes.
I consider this an incredible breakthrough moment.
Here is a picture of the Wicked Weed leaf:
This is a moment when sharing my best genetics has paid incredible dividends. I cannot express how valuable this is to me, and how happy I am. Sharing genetics prevents strains from dying out!
By the way, I think this newly re-acquired cutting is the result of a few generations of line breeding after I crossed a strain with Thai in it to a strain named Seeing God. I put a note in my signature some time ago hoping I'd find Seeing God again. Not only was it very potent, it is in the top 5 strongest of all strains I have ever grown, it also ripened outdoors where I live the second week of September. It is probably one of the top 2 strains that I would most want back of all the strains in my life that I let slip through my fingers. This is because of how highly valuable a potent and early strain would be to me, and probably to a lot of other people. This is one of the reasons that I actually gave the effort to do some line breeding.
All the Best,
ThaiBliss
Look at this comparison of leaves. The first one is the thinnest leafed plant to come out of The Dank Dank. It is a male:
Here is my newly re-acquired ancestor, Wicked Weed:
Notice that the ancestor is lacking the bulge in the leaflets.
Here are some other recent Dank Dank leaf pictures:
ThaiBliss
Here is my newly re-acquired ancestor, Wicked Weed:
Notice that the ancestor is lacking the bulge in the leaflets.
Here are some other recent Dank Dank leaf pictures:
ThaiBliss
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good eye on the bulge ThaiBliss! It seems the equatorial landraces have leaves similar to the bulge-less Wicked weed. Maybe the bulge shows more of an indica influence in the plants genetic bckgd.
I just had to go out and compare my mangobiche to the punto rojo. The mangobiche has a small bulge and the punto rojo leaflets are straight and sexy and skinny like your Wicked Weed. Thanks for sharing the pics and journey.
-pH
I just had to go out and compare my mangobiche to the punto rojo. The mangobiche has a small bulge and the punto rojo leaflets are straight and sexy and skinny like your Wicked Weed. Thanks for sharing the pics and journey.
-pH
In reference to bigherb's comparison of Neville's haze to Punto Rojo and ThaiBliss's reference to Nevilles Haze and 1970's Thai Stick.
My thought is - you both experienced a Haze high that you like - you'll like some, but not all Haze highs.........................
The punchline is that Haze is a poly hybrid, like a box of chocolates ~ you never know what your going to get. Neville, Shantibaba, and Mr Nice, crossed 3 poly hybrids ~ Haze Northern lights and Skunk #1. You never know what your going to get time three.
What you do get is a poly hybrid high, complex and multi-dimensional ~ a little of this ~ a little of that ~ viola ~~~ Poly Hybrid x Poly Hybrid x Poly Hybrid. No doubt, Nevile, Shantibaba, and Mr. Nice made great selections. However; Mango haze has that dense, complex stone with a heavy comedown.
Mango Haze's comedown goes away if you smoke all-day, but, Punto Rojo pheno-types have clarity, energy and purity in the high. That said, I'm smoking five relatively pure Colombians 18 - 24 weeks all with a different high or vibration. All good, but all different. Punto Rojo gold has a different high than Punto Rojo maroon, or Punto Rojo green or silver.
The high from NLD Mango Haze is IMO a few notches below Punto Rojo pheno-types in regards to purity and clarity of the high. NLD Mango Haze compared to Punto Rojo has a heavy, complex, and dense, sedating high.
First the question.
Did Neville's Haze use different Hazes than Mango Haze? Super Silver Haze used a Silver Haze. Silver Haze was not used in Mango Haze. Mango Haze has some purple fruity pheno-types. I've also seen Silver haze expressions in Neville's Haze.
Mango Haze used one Haze than is a dead ringer in growth structure for Coastal Green Colombian and a Haze with tropical fruit / mango aromas, maybe a mango Colombian or a mango Thai, who knows? The mango / fruity pheno in Punto Rojo is similar the high has euphoria, but lacks psychedelia and clarity of other Punto Rojo pheno-types. Conclusion, if you didn't like the high from a Haze used in a Haze poly hybrid, you'll probably not like the high from the new and improved Haze poly hybrid.
My thought is - you both experienced a Haze high that you like - you'll like some, but not all Haze highs.........................
The punchline is that Haze is a poly hybrid, like a box of chocolates ~ you never know what your going to get. Neville, Shantibaba, and Mr Nice, crossed 3 poly hybrids ~ Haze Northern lights and Skunk #1. You never know what your going to get time three.
What you do get is a poly hybrid high, complex and multi-dimensional ~ a little of this ~ a little of that ~ viola ~~~ Poly Hybrid x Poly Hybrid x Poly Hybrid. No doubt, Nevile, Shantibaba, and Mr. Nice made great selections. However; Mango haze has that dense, complex stone with a heavy comedown.
Mango Haze's comedown goes away if you smoke all-day, but, Punto Rojo pheno-types have clarity, energy and purity in the high. That said, I'm smoking five relatively pure Colombians 18 - 24 weeks all with a different high or vibration. All good, but all different. Punto Rojo gold has a different high than Punto Rojo maroon, or Punto Rojo green or silver.
The high from NLD Mango Haze is IMO a few notches below Punto Rojo pheno-types in regards to purity and clarity of the high. NLD Mango Haze compared to Punto Rojo has a heavy, complex, and dense, sedating high.
First the question.
Did Neville's Haze use different Hazes than Mango Haze? Super Silver Haze used a Silver Haze. Silver Haze was not used in Mango Haze. Mango Haze has some purple fruity pheno-types. I've also seen Silver haze expressions in Neville's Haze.
Mango Haze used one Haze than is a dead ringer in growth structure for Coastal Green Colombian and a Haze with tropical fruit / mango aromas, maybe a mango Colombian or a mango Thai, who knows? The mango / fruity pheno in Punto Rojo is similar the high has euphoria, but lacks psychedelia and clarity of other Punto Rojo pheno-types. Conclusion, if you didn't like the high from a Haze used in a Haze poly hybrid, you'll probably not like the high from the new and improved Haze poly hybrid.
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yesum, have you made f2's of the punto rojo?
Yes, I made Punto Rojo f2, using four females and one male. It took me three packs to find a stable male. I had poor germination rates. Not sure, when CBg Punto Rojo seeds were made. They were collected in the 2009 - 2010 timeframe, I believe.
I am wondering if it breeds true
True to what? CBG's Punto Rojo was growing in the Colombian mountians not so long ago.In 2009 - 2010 Punto Rojo seeds were collected from three mountain regions of Colombia, North, Central and Southern mountains. Not sure how much development the CBG seeds for sale experienced. Most all of the Punto Rojo phenos have the uplifting, euphoric, spacy Highland Colombian high.
Flowering is +18 - 24 weeks, I see zero WLD influence. The male is untested. Charlie Garcia noted Punto Rojo was collected from the northern mountains near Santa Marta and the Central mountains near Tomilas.
I expect to find all the f1 Punto Rojo pheno-types in the f2, plus whatever the male brings. There is at least seven Punto Rojo phenos they are all good, just a question on your preference for the high and tolerance to long flowering and wispy flowers. My favorite high has the wispiest flowers, and is the longest flowering.
1) green with red points,
2) light green/silver,
3) dark Green,
4) maroon,
5) purple,
6) rainbow,
7) gold.
I'll take 10 or so Gold (OR-1) seeds from my favorite Gold (PR-1) female, and look for the traits of the gold mother in both a male and female.
Charlie Garcia noted that stable sex males are hard to find, so grow the males thru to exhaustion to determine if their sex is stable to the end. Charlie also said we should be able to see the traits of the mother and the father in the off-spring of a cross. In this case your looking for the traits of your favorite female. Which for me is Gold (PR-1).
There is not recessive and unknown WLD traits that will show up in + f2. I will take a few generations to stabilize seeds that yield the high you prefer. Some people may select their favorite color, denser flowering structure, or best resin coverage.
The four females that I've documented on the Cannabiogen Punto Rojo thread were crossed to these males.
The various Punto Rojo females were crossed with these males. I made F2 seds owith all four Punto Rojo phenos. In general the flower density and yield is very wispy.
Punto Rojo male was flowered for a long time to ensure stable sex traits.
SamS Haze x Skunk
Destroyer x 1972 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry
(Colombian Gold x 1960's Jamacian Lambsbread) x Colombian Gold
1972 (?) Colombian Gold x C99 ~ females showed male flowers so they were culled, male seemed stable. Females had wild growth structure. Similar growth to Punto Rojo -1 very vigorous, but less developed or wilder growth than Punto Rojo -1 or ColJam.
My favorite Copalita Oaxacan - CO - 1 was also crossed with those five males + SAmS Haze x Skunk.
Punto Rojo x Punto Rojo f2 using four females,
Punto Rojo x SamS Haze x Skunk
[Punto Rojo x (Colombian Gold x C99)]
[Punto Rojo x (Destroyer x Highland Guerrero x Blueberry)]
[(Colombian Gold / Jamacian Lambsbread) x (Colombian Gold)] f2
Punto Rojo x [(Colombian Gold / Jamacian Lambsbread) x (Colombian Gold)]
Copalita Oaxacan x Punto Rojo
PS> IcMag, Cannabiogen, Punto Rojo thread has pictures, selection notes, and smoke reports.
Yes, I made Punto Rojo f2, using four females and one male. It took me three packs to find a stable male. I had poor germination rates. Not sure, when CBg Punto Rojo seeds were made. They were collected in the 2009 - 2010 timeframe, I believe.
I am wondering if it breeds true
True to what? CBG's Punto Rojo was growing in the Colombian mountians not so long ago.In 2009 - 2010 Punto Rojo seeds were collected from three mountain regions of Colombia, North, Central and Southern mountains. Not sure how much development the CBG seeds for sale experienced. Most all of the Punto Rojo phenos have the uplifting, euphoric, spacy Highland Colombian high.
Flowering is +18 - 24 weeks, I see zero WLD influence. The male is untested. Charlie Garcia noted Punto Rojo was collected from the northern mountains near Santa Marta and the Central mountains near Tomilas.
I expect to find all the f1 Punto Rojo pheno-types in the f2, plus whatever the male brings. There is at least seven Punto Rojo phenos they are all good, just a question on your preference for the high and tolerance to long flowering and wispy flowers. My favorite high has the wispiest flowers, and is the longest flowering.
1) green with red points,
2) light green/silver,
3) dark Green,
4) maroon,
5) purple,
6) rainbow,
7) gold.
I'll take 10 or so Gold (OR-1) seeds from my favorite Gold (PR-1) female, and look for the traits of the gold mother in both a male and female.
Charlie Garcia noted that stable sex males are hard to find, so grow the males thru to exhaustion to determine if their sex is stable to the end. Charlie also said we should be able to see the traits of the mother and the father in the off-spring of a cross. In this case your looking for the traits of your favorite female. Which for me is Gold (PR-1).
There is not recessive and unknown WLD traits that will show up in + f2. I will take a few generations to stabilize seeds that yield the high you prefer. Some people may select their favorite color, denser flowering structure, or best resin coverage.
The four females that I've documented on the Cannabiogen Punto Rojo thread were crossed to these males.
The various Punto Rojo females were crossed with these males. I made F2 seds owith all four Punto Rojo phenos. In general the flower density and yield is very wispy.
Punto Rojo male was flowered for a long time to ensure stable sex traits.
SamS Haze x Skunk
Destroyer x 1972 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry
(Colombian Gold x 1960's Jamacian Lambsbread) x Colombian Gold
1972 (?) Colombian Gold x C99 ~ females showed male flowers so they were culled, male seemed stable. Females had wild growth structure. Similar growth to Punto Rojo -1 very vigorous, but less developed or wilder growth than Punto Rojo -1 or ColJam.
My favorite Copalita Oaxacan - CO - 1 was also crossed with those five males + SAmS Haze x Skunk.
Punto Rojo x Punto Rojo f2 using four females,
Punto Rojo x SamS Haze x Skunk
[Punto Rojo x (Colombian Gold x C99)]
[Punto Rojo x (Destroyer x Highland Guerrero x Blueberry)]
[(Colombian Gold / Jamacian Lambsbread) x (Colombian Gold)] f2
Punto Rojo x [(Colombian Gold / Jamacian Lambsbread) x (Colombian Gold)]
Copalita Oaxacan x Punto Rojo
PS> IcMag, Cannabiogen, Punto Rojo thread has pictures, selection notes, and smoke reports.
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Hey bushweed, can you tell me more about this Neville's Haze wheat pheno? Any info will be appreciated, saludos mexicani-ar
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Hey bushweed, can you tell me more about this Neville's Haze wheat pheno? Any info will be appreciated, saludos mexicani-ar
So out of 3 packs how many germinated to be exact?
I'm looking to try some out as well and want to know
roughly how many packs I need.
I haven't seen that pic in sometime , awhile ago I looked hard for it . I thought it was aldous who grew it maybe that why I couldn't find it . If I recall it was one of 3 or four different phenos . Truly Haze Dom that most growers today would discard . Id kill for that pheno
This pic /plant is from sometime before brother bushy was around . I don't believe he has acquired this clone or if it has even been kept
1luvbigherb
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